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Uchumi HY 2015 results - firmly in loss territory
streetwise
#61 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2015 8:58:29 PM
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innairobi
#62 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:52:01 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
wazuaguest wrote:
Sometimes back I met him at Naivasha in the company of a colleague (a very fly mama)who is married and he was 'spoiling'her.

on a soft note,this is his private life unless you are a complainant complaining at the wrong place.


hakuna mambo na private life if you are running a public company. nothing is beyond interrogation
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#63 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 7:02:53 AM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
Seeking financial assistance was expected. I don't envy KQ CFO for now. Given that government shareholding is below 30%, and in my view KQ will not be able to repay that debt, options that remain will be conversion of government debt to equity at a later date and in the process allow the government to be the majority shareholder. I wonder what plans KLM has.

Talking of gvt bailouts CS treasury should also set aside cash for Mumias and possibly Uchumi??? Welcome to 2015, the year of bailouts.




Management has ruled out a bailout because for now thet have non- core assets expected to be sold for Kes2B. Let's see how long they can go with this asset sale business. My earlier prediction of a bailout still stands.

BD wrote:
The board ruled out a possible government bailout or the sale of the company to a competitor, insisting that the company could still be salvaged.

read more here
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#64 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:52:58 AM
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innairobi wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
wazuaguest wrote:
Sometimes back I met him at Naivasha in the company of a colleague (a very fly mama)who is married and he was 'spoiling'her.

on a soft note,this is his private life unless you are a complainant complaining at the wrong place.


hakuna mambo na private life if you are running a public company. nothing is beyond interrogation
As long as he wasn't doing so on company time using company assets...
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MaichBlack
#65 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:29:02 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
wazuaguest wrote:
Sometimes back I met him at Naivasha in the company of a colleague (a very fly mama)who is married and he was 'spoiling'her.

on a soft note,this is his private life unless you are a complainant complaining at the wrong place.

It is only in Kenya/Africa that we take these things lightly and label them "private matters". Maybe it is because many people including raia behave the same way mpaka it is perceived to be normal! In the west, they ask themselves a simple question: If you cannot be true to your wife and kids, how can you be true to me as a shareholder/constituent/client etc. And that is a very valid question. Anyone who can betray his family can betray you in a heart beat!!!

Many a C.E.O./Politicians have lost their jobs because of this! In Kenya we lowered the bar too low till finally we did away with the bar!
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#66 Posted : Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:49:46 PM
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#67 Posted : Sunday, September 06, 2015 9:34:40 AM
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Uchumi Sarit, its best performing outlet kwisa

http://mobile.businessda.../-/146ng18z/-/index.html
instinct
#68 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 7:18:11 AM
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This will become a concern in 2017..not now..
heri
#69 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:16:19 AM
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It would be interesting to know how supermarkets which are not quoted at the NSE perform. what kind of profits do NAIVAS, Nakumatt, Tuskys generate .

Ofcourse we see them opening many branches but it would be insightful if it was possible to see their financials
watesh
#70 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 2:28:07 PM
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heri wrote:
It would be interesting to know how supermarkets which are not quoted at the NSE perform. what kind of profits do NAIVAS, Nakumatt, Tuskys generate .

Ofcourse we see them opening many branches but it would be insightful if it was possible to see their financials

Nakumatt has the highest revenues, Tuskys suffering from management problems by owners....but I WOULD REALLY REALLY REALLY like to get my hands on Nakumatt shares.
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#71 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 5:51:28 PM
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watesh wrote:
heri wrote:
It would be interesting to know how supermarkets which are not quoted at the NSE perform. what kind of profits do NAIVAS, Nakumatt, Tuskys generate .

Ofcourse we see them opening many branches but it would be insightful if it was possible to see their financials

Nakumatt has the highest revenues, Tuskys suffering from management problems by owners....but I WOULD REALLY REALLY REALLY like to get my hands on Nakumatt shares.

Tuskys must have been making huge profits...Several managers made away with millions n millions but their outlets are still stocked. The family wrangles caused the loopholes.
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#72 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:24:44 AM
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Gatheuzi
#73 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 4:34:15 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:

Wah! 200M pm for 12 months is equal to 2.4 B in annual support to both Uganda and Tanzania. It is like loosing Gong Rd Hyper in under a year. Happy to see that this has been stopped. But I still wonder if that "support" used to be applied for true business activities.
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watesh
#74 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 2:29:42 PM
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With the cancerous parts cut off, profits are coming soon
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#75 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 7:42:47 PM
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Someone need to take Uchumu private and restructure it. Hard to think a retail company like Uchumu can be making losses in a market like Kenya
murchr
#76 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 7:48:21 PM
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Rollout wrote:
Someone need to take Uchumu private and restructure it. Hard to think a retail company like Uchumu can be making losses in a market like Kenya


Its called stealing.

Of Time by employees .. There were so many instances where people would walk in to uchumi and find the attendants not present or idling. Most of the shelves were either under stocked or just pathetic.

Of goods...so many reported cases of employees pilferage
Then add over expansion in UG and TZ....but I trust the new MD
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enyands
#77 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 9:45:53 PM
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murchr wrote:
Rollout wrote:
Someone need to take Uchumu private and restructure it. Hard to think a retail company like Uchumu can be making losses in a market like Kenya


Its called stealing.

Of Time by employees .. There were so many instances where people would walk in to uchumi and find the attendants not present or idling. Most of the shelves were either under stocked or just pathetic.

Of goods...so many reported cases of employees pilferage
Then add over expansion in UG and TZ....but I trust the new MD


The new MD has a good track history from kws to equity . I believe he has the ways
VituVingiSana
#78 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 10:19:10 PM
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enyands wrote:
murchr wrote:
Rollout wrote:
Someone need to take Uchumu private and restructure it. Hard to think a retail company like Uchumu can be making losses in a market like Kenya


Its called stealing.

Of Time by employees .. There were so many instances where people would walk in to uchumi and find the attendants not present or idling. Most of the shelves were either under stocked or just pathetic.

Of goods...so many reported cases of employees pilferage
Then add over expansion in UG and TZ....but I trust the new MD


The new MD has a good track history from kws to equity . I believe he has the ways
JM ran Equity before, during and after JK.
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Pesa Nane
#79 Posted : Friday, October 23, 2015 10:44:47 AM
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Am I allowed to guess that a competitor will purchase the properties and later exploit some loopholes in the leaseback contract to kick uchumi out?
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dunkang
#80 Posted : Friday, October 23, 2015 11:07:56 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:


Am I allowed to guess that a competitor will purchase the properties and later exploit some loopholes in the buyback contract to kick uchumi out?

Thought the same. Like, what if Naivas or Tuskys buys the property, they can't let out to a competitor, au sivyo?

I think the purpose of that "Buy and Lease Back" statement is just to assure the bidders that there is a ready tenant.
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