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murchr
#31 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2015 8:04:55 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Bykhovets wrote:
tycho wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
Stage 4?! She's in big trouble. Sad


There's nothing like big trouble about this. I think we're being too squeamish about this matter of cancer or death. Dying is a natural part of growth. How you die doesn't even matter.

The last time I was taking care of a cancer patient, I experienced one of the crudest handling of patients by a doctor. Outside the patient was wondering aloud about the pain of dying, and leaving her child. But then, just like now, I realized that being alive isn't any better than dying.

So, if there's anything to be done is to enjoy the moments we're having knowing that there's no greater blessing than overcoming all these things we call evil and knowing all things are good.


Soon, she's going to be in a lot of pain, coughing blood, losing weight, cachexia and all the unpleasant bodily changes that are brought about by metastatic cancer. Then it gets into the bones, liver and brain.

@tycho, as philosophical as you might want to be, she will not enjoy any of those ailments.


Sasa umekuwa daktari? Thought she's getting treatment. Cancer is not a death sentence as long as you have a physician who knows how to handle it and you have the will power to survive.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Mike Ock
#32 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2015 8:44:40 PM
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Joined: 1/22/2015
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Stage 4 discovery is a financial killer and also quality of life will be so low with all the harsh chemo. She should consider just going out with a bang. Sometimes that's just better for everyone.
sitaki.kujulikana
#33 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2015 10:01:46 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/25/2012
Posts: 1,826
murchr wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
tycho wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
Stage 4?! She's in big trouble. Sad


There's nothing like big trouble about this. I think we're being too squeamish about this matter of cancer or death. Dying is a natural part of growth. How you die doesn't even matter.

The last time I was taking care of a cancer patient, I experienced one of the crudest handling of patients by a doctor. Outside the patient was wondering aloud about the pain of dying, and leaving her child. But then, just like now, I realized that being alive isn't any better than dying.

So, if there's anything to be done is to enjoy the moments we're having knowing that there's no greater blessing than overcoming all these things we call evil and knowing all things are good.


Soon, she's going to be in a lot of pain, coughing blood, losing weight, cachexia and all the unpleasant bodily changes that are brought about by metastatic cancer. Then it gets into the bones, liver and brain.

@tycho, as philosophical as you might want to be, she will not enjoy any of those ailments.


Sasa umekuwa daktari? Thought she's getting treatment. Cancer is not a death sentence as long as you have a physician who knows how to handle it and you have the will power to survive.

actually yeye ni daktari, he might know what he is talking about
sitaki.kujulikana
#34 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2015 10:03:24 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/25/2012
Posts: 1,826
tycho wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
Stage 4?! She's in big trouble. Sad


There's nothing like big trouble about this. I think we're being too squeamish about this matter of cancer or death. Dying is a natural part of growth. How you die doesn't even matter.

The last time I was taking care of a cancer patient, I experienced one of the crudest handling of patients by a doctor. Outside the patient was wondering aloud about the pain of dying, and leaving her child. But then, just like now, I realized that being alive isn't any better than dying.

So, if there's anything to be done is to enjoy the moments we're having knowing that there's no greater blessing than overcoming all these things we call evil and knowing all things are good.

true
PeterReborn
#35 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2015 10:08:34 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 1/3/2014
Posts: 1,063
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
murchr wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
tycho wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
Stage 4?! She's in big trouble. Sad


There's nothing like big trouble about this. I think we're being too squeamish about this matter of cancer or death. Dying is a natural part of growth. How you die doesn't even matter.

The last time I was taking care of a cancer patient, I experienced one of the crudest handling of patients by a doctor. Outside the patient was wondering aloud about the pain of dying, and leaving her child. But then, just like now, I realized that being alive isn't any better than dying.

So, if there's anything to be done is to enjoy the moments we're having knowing that there's no greater blessing than overcoming all these things we call evil and knowing all things are good.


Soon, she's going to be in a lot of pain, coughing blood, losing weight, cachexia and all the unpleasant bodily changes that are brought about by metastatic cancer. Then it gets into the bones, liver and brain.

@tycho, as philosophical as you might want to be, she will not enjoy any of those ailments.


Sasa umekuwa daktari? Thought she's getting treatment. Cancer is not a death sentence as long as you have a physician who knows how to handle it and you have the will power to survive.

actually yeye ni daktari, he might know what he is talking about

Maybe some Wazuans will die before her.
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murchr
#36 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2015 10:11:42 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
murchr wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
tycho wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
Stage 4?! She's in big trouble. Sad


There's nothing like big trouble about this. I think we're being too squeamish about this matter of cancer or death. Dying is a natural part of growth. How you die doesn't even matter.

The last time I was taking care of a cancer patient, I experienced one of the crudest handling of patients by a doctor. Outside the patient was wondering aloud about the pain of dying, and leaving her child. But then, just like now, I realized that being alive isn't any better than dying.

So, if there's anything to be done is to enjoy the moments we're having knowing that there's no greater blessing than overcoming all these things we call evil and knowing all things are good.


Soon, she's going to be in a lot of pain, coughing blood, losing weight, cachexia and all the unpleasant bodily changes that are brought about by metastatic cancer. Then it gets into the bones, liver and brain.

@tycho, as philosophical as you might want to be, she will not enjoy any of those ailments.


Sasa umekuwa daktari? Thought she's getting treatment. Cancer is not a death sentence as long as you have a physician who knows how to handle it and you have the will power to survive.

actually yeye ni daktari, he might know what he is talking about


The symptoms he described are those of a patient not getting the treatment required. If he's a doc he should know better. You will not see the likes of jguru, BGL and Rankaz payukaring carelessly like that.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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sitaki.kujulikana
#37 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2015 12:12:00 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/25/2012
Posts: 1,826
PeterReborn wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
murchr wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
tycho wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
Stage 4?! She's in big trouble. Sad


There's nothing like big trouble about this. I think we're being too squeamish about this matter of cancer or death. Dying is a natural part of growth. How you die doesn't even matter.

The last time I was taking care of a cancer patient, I experienced one of the crudest handling of patients by a doctor. Outside the patient was wondering aloud about the pain of dying, and leaving her child. But then, just like now, I realized that being alive isn't any better than dying.

So, if there's anything to be done is to enjoy the moments we're having knowing that there's no greater blessing than overcoming all these things we call evil and knowing all things are good.


Soon, she's going to be in a lot of pain, coughing blood, losing weight, cachexia and all the unpleasant bodily changes that are brought about by metastatic cancer. Then it gets into the bones, liver and brain.

@tycho, as philosophical as you might want to be, she will not enjoy any of those ailments.


Sasa umekuwa daktari? Thought she's getting treatment. Cancer is not a death sentence as long as you have a physician who knows how to handle it and you have the will power to survive.

actually yeye ni daktari, he might know what he is talking about

Maybe some Wazuans will die before her.

@tycho has spoken, at the end of the day its not about death since we are all headed there.
sitaki.kujulikana
#38 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2015 12:15:22 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/25/2012
Posts: 1,826
murchr wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
murchr wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
tycho wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
Stage 4?! She's in big trouble. Sad


There's nothing like big trouble about this. I think we're being too squeamish about this matter of cancer or death. Dying is a natural part of growth. How you die doesn't even matter.

The last time I was taking care of a cancer patient, I experienced one of the crudest handling of patients by a doctor. Outside the patient was wondering aloud about the pain of dying, and leaving her child. But then, just like now, I realized that being alive isn't any better than dying.

So, if there's anything to be done is to enjoy the moments we're having knowing that there's no greater blessing than overcoming all these things we call evil and knowing all things are good.


Soon, she's going to be in a lot of pain, coughing blood, losing weight, cachexia and all the unpleasant bodily changes that are brought about by metastatic cancer. Then it gets into the bones, liver and brain.

@tycho, as philosophical as you might want to be, she will not enjoy any of those ailments.


Sasa umekuwa daktari? Thought she's getting treatment. Cancer is not a death sentence as long as you have a physician who knows how to handle it and you have the will power to survive.

actually yeye ni daktari, he might know what he is talking about


The symptoms he described are those of a patient not getting the treatment required. If he's a doc he should know better. You will not see the likes of jguru, BGL and Rankaz payukaring carelessly like that.

I am ignorant when it comes to that, but its sad either way, especially for the family having to see their loved one going through all that.
But I know doctors, at least some prefer telling the truth about certain conditions and procedures to prepare patients and the families before going through with the same.
Then its up to the patient and family to make the decision, some docs do not and want to pile as much medication and procedures for their own gain, to everyone their own
mwenza
#39 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:54:04 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2009
Posts: 2,863
murchr wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
murchr wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
tycho wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
Stage 4?! She's in big trouble. Sad


There's nothing like big trouble about this. I think we're being too squeamish about this matter of cancer or death. Dying is a natural part of growth. How you die doesn't even matter.

The last time I was taking care of a cancer patient, I experienced one of the crudest handling of patients by a doctor. Outside the patient was wondering aloud about the pain of dying, and leaving her child. But then, just like now, I realized that being alive isn't any better than dying.

So, if there's anything to be done is to enjoy the moments we're having knowing that there's no greater blessing than overcoming all these things we call evil and knowing all things are good.


Soon, she's going to be in a lot of pain, coughing blood, losing weight, cachexia and all the unpleasant bodily changes that are brought about by metastatic cancer. Then it gets into the bones, liver and brain.

@tycho, as philosophical as you might want to be, she will not enjoy any of those ailments.


Sasa umekuwa daktari? Thought she's getting treatment. Cancer is not a death sentence as long as you have a physician who knows how to handle it and you have the will power to survive.

actually yeye ni daktari, he might know what he is talking about


The symptoms he described are those of a patient not getting the treatment required. If he's a doc he should know better. You will not see the likes of jguru, BGL and Rankaz payukaring carelessly like that.


@murchr..... You should know people. There are doctors in this forum with multiple handles. Enough said.
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Swenani
#40 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2015 9:19:36 AM
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Mike Ock wrote:
Stage 4 discovery is a financial killer and also quality of life will be so low with all the harsh chemo. She should consider just going out with a bang. Sometimes that's just better for everyone.


What if Janet Is a wazuan?How will she feel if she read this?
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