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Anti_Burglar wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:githundi wrote:This is a zero sum game. They problem is not the thinking. rs, the problem has to do with wage inequalities in the country SRC was supposed to reign that,but failed miserably. The maximum wage of the most senior civil servants should be about 20 times that of the lowest paid civil servant. And by the way if the government cannot obey court orders,how does it expect the teachers and other to actors to obey them? This is the road to anarchy. Two wrongs don't make a right. Court order doesn't mean you stop thinking, we all know annual teacher's strike is big business and what money is set aside to buy sack them and hire afresh on new terms!! wakae nyumbani vile wanataka. we are tired, teachers are well paid compared to the rest of ma-workers...think about the teachers you know and tell me any not doing well! When new ones are employed, once they join KNUT and KUPPET it will be the same story ad infinitum. The monkeys may change but the forest remains the same. This is like drinking beer to solve your problems. If the others were to be let go, the new ones would never go on strike, hata if they joined the union. Even if they go back and the government refuses to pay for the days on strike, they will not go on strike again. For now they know its a game and once its over the pay will be backdated. These strikes have been going on for very many years even those still in school when their teachers started striking have joined the strike. because they always end in a form of pay increment, so wamezoea. But if a good number were to lose their jobs, then the remaining or new ones would think very hard before joining a strike. Remember it easy jumping in the streets together, but once one loses the job uko kivyako, you go home and explain to your kids alone. But I like their determination, but lets wait and see who will gain more from the fiasco.
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haiya u mean hatulipi bills?
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Quote from my grandfather (pbuh) For a seed to bring forth a new plant,it must first "die",be buried,rot before a new life shoots out and healthy plant grows. Annual strike will be a thing of the past. Sossion will go down in history as the SG who led the highest number of strikes that achieved the least. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:githundi wrote:This is a zero sum game. They problem is not the thinking. rs, the problem has to do with wage inequalities in the country SRC was supposed to reign that,but failed miserably. The maximum wage of the most senior civil servants should be about 20 times that of the lowest paid civil servant. And by the way if the government cannot obey court orders,how does it expect the teachers and other to actors to obey them? This is the road to anarchy. Two wrongs don't make a right. Court order doesn't mean you stop thinking, we all know annual teacher's strike is big business and what money is set aside to buy sack them and hire afresh on new terms!! wakae nyumbani vile wanataka. we are tired, teachers are well paid compared to the rest of ma-workers...think about the teachers you know and tell me any not doing well! When new ones are employed, once they join KNUT and KUPPET it will be the same story ad infinitum. The monkeys may change but the forest remains the same. This is like drinking beer to solve your problems. If the others were to be let go, the new ones would never go on strike, hata if they joined the union. Even if they go back and the government refuses to pay for the days on strike, they will not go on strike again. For now they know its a game and once its over the pay will be backdated. These strikes have been going on for very many years even those still in school when their teachers started striking have joined the strike. because they always end in a form of pay increment, so wamezoea. But if a good number were to lose their jobs, then the remaining or new ones would think very hard before joining a strike. Remember it easy jumping in the streets together, but once one loses the job uko kivyako, you go home and explain to your kids alone. But I like their determination, but lets wait and see who will gain more from the fiasco. Hhhmmmm.
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:These strikes have been going on for very many years even those still in school when their teachers started striking have joined the strike.
because they always end in a form of pay increment, so wamezoea. But if a good number were to lose their jobs, then the remaining or new ones would think very hard before joining a strike.
Remember it easy jumping in the streets together, but once one loses the job uko kivyako, you go home and explain to your kids alone.
But I like their determination, but lets wait and see who will gain more from the fiasco. If today the government announced that any teacher who would like to retire early on a golden handshake calculated e.g. 1 months basic pay for every month worked + retain NSSF contributions, thousands of teachers would take that deal. Teaching is not a well paying job. If the government gave them an out they would take it. And reduce the wage bill by hiring cheaper teachers. A teacher who has served for 12 years (3yrs each in job grade P1, H, J, K), from my rough calculations, would take home 4.2M. "Occasionally I drop a tea cup to shatter on the floor. On purpose. I am not satisfied when it does not gather itself up again. Someday perhaps that cup will come together."
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Taurrus wrote:haiya u mean hatulipi bills? Roundi hii ni kuchonga viazi. Hutia Mundu!!
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Bykhovets wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:These strikes have been going on for very many years even those still in school when their teachers started striking have joined the strike.
because they always end in a form of pay increment, so wamezoea. But if a good number were to lose their jobs, then the remaining or new ones would think very hard before joining a strike.
Remember it easy jumping in the streets together, but once one loses the job uko kivyako, you go home and explain to your kids alone.
But I like their determination, but lets wait and see who will gain more from the fiasco. If today the government announced that any teacher who would like to retire early on a golden handshake calculated e.g. 1 months basic pay for every month worked + retain NSSF contributions, thousands of teachers would take that deal. Teaching is not a well paying job. If the government gave them an out they would take it. And reduce the wage bill by hiring cheaper teachers. A teacher who has served for 12 years (3yrs each in job grade P1, H, J, K), from my rough calculations, would take home 4.2M. I disagree with you. You mean they are paid 1 months pay for every MONTH worked? Like double payment for the months worked? Who pays that for a retirement package??? then I would love to be a teacher. You work for only 9 months a year, sometime half day given that sometimes you have two lessons a day, and that's what you take home?
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Wendz wrote:Bykhovets wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:These strikes have been going on for very many years even those still in school when their teachers started striking have joined the strike.
because they always end in a form of pay increment, so wamezoea. But if a good number were to lose their jobs, then the remaining or new ones would think very hard before joining a strike.
Remember it easy jumping in the streets together, but once one loses the job uko kivyako, you go home and explain to your kids alone.
But I like their determination, but lets wait and see who will gain more from the fiasco. If today the government announced that any teacher who would like to retire early on a golden handshake calculated e.g. 1 months basic pay for every month worked + retain NSSF contributions, thousands of teachers would take that deal. Teaching is not a well paying job. If the government gave them an out they would take it. And reduce the wage bill by hiring cheaper teachers. A teacher who has served for 12 years (3yrs each in job grade P1, H, J, K), from my rough calculations, would take home 4.2M. I disagree with you. You mean they are paid 1 months pay for every MONTH worked? Like double payment for the months worked? Who pays that for a retirement package??? then I would love to be a teacher. You work for only 9 months a year, sometime half day given that sometimes you have two lessons a day, and that's what you take home? that would not even reduce the wage bill, but most people would take that deal, police, nurses, other civil servants would go for such. Heck, even most guys in the private sector would love that. 4.2m is cash majority of kenyans will never accumulate in their lifetimes, that's even assuming they save every single cent they earn in their lifetime
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Bykhovets wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:These strikes have been going on for very many years even those still in school when their teachers started striking have joined the strike.
because they always end in a form of pay increment, so wamezoea. But if a good number were to lose their jobs, then the remaining or new ones would think very hard before joining a strike.
Remember it easy jumping in the streets together, but once one loses the job uko kivyako, you go home and explain to your kids alone.
But I like their determination, but lets wait and see who will gain more from the fiasco. If today the government announced that any teacher who would like to retire early on a golden handshake calculated e.g. 1 months basic pay for every month worked + retain NSSF contributions, thousands of teachers would take that deal. Teaching is not a well paying job. If the government gave them an out they would take it. And reduce the wage bill by hiring cheaper teachers. A teacher who has served for 12 years (3yrs each in job grade P1, H, J, K), from my rough calculations, would take home 4.2M. Check again!! Redundancy and other separation considerations is usually paid off at 2 months pay for every year worked. It can even be a months pay...so a teacher earning 23k a month would take home about 590k if they worked for 12yrs...inclusive of 2 months in lieu of notice
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Muheani wrote:Bykhovets wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:These strikes have been going on for very many years even those still in school when their teachers started striking have joined the strike.
because they always end in a form of pay increment, so wamezoea. But if a good number were to lose their jobs, then the remaining or new ones would think very hard before joining a strike.
Remember it easy jumping in the streets together, but once one loses the job uko kivyako, you go home and explain to your kids alone.
But I like their determination, but lets wait and see who will gain more from the fiasco. If today the government announced that any teacher who would like to retire early on a golden handshake calculated e.g. 1 months basic pay for every month worked + retain NSSF contributions, thousands of teachers would take that deal. Teaching is not a well paying job. If the government gave them an out they would take it. And reduce the wage bill by hiring cheaper teachers. A teacher who has served for 12 years (3yrs each in job grade P1, H, J, K), from my rough calculations, would take home 4.2M. Check again!! Redundancy and other separation considerations is usually paid off at 2 months pay for every year worked. It can even be a months pay...so a teacher earning 23k a month would take home about 590k if they worked for 12yrs...inclusive of 2 months in lieu of notice A teacher doesn't remain at the same job grade for long. They get promoted. But you get my drift. Give them an out, they will take it. Hire cheaper teachers later. "Occasionally I drop a tea cup to shatter on the floor. On purpose. I am not satisfied when it does not gather itself up again. Someday perhaps that cup will come together."
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