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harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:githundi wrote:This is a zero sum game. They problem is not the thinking. rs, the problem has to do with wage inequalities in the country SRC was supposed to reign that,but failed miserably. The maximum wage of the most senior civil servants should be about 20 times that of the lowest paid civil servant. And by the way if the government cannot obey court orders,how does it expect the teachers and other to actors to obey them? This is the road to anarchy. Two wrongs don't make a right. Court order doesn't mean you stop thinking, we all know annual teacher's strike is big business and what money is set aside to buy sack them and hire afresh on new terms!! wakae nyumbani vile wanataka. we are tired, teachers are well paid compared to the rest of ma-workers...think about the teachers you know and tell me any not doing well! When new ones are employed, once they join KNUT and KUPPET it will be the same story ad infinitum. The monkeys may change but the forest remains the same. This is like drinking beer to solve your problems.
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Anti_Burglar wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:githundi wrote:This is a zero sum game. They problem is not the thinking. rs, the problem has to do with wage inequalities in the country SRC was supposed to reign that,but failed miserably. The maximum wage of the most senior civil servants should be about 20 times that of the lowest paid civil servant. And by the way if the government cannot obey court orders,how does it expect the teachers and other to actors to obey them? This is the road to anarchy. Two wrongs don't make a right. Court order doesn't mean you stop thinking, we all know annual teacher's strike is big business and what money is set aside to buy sack them and hire afresh on new terms!! wakae nyumbani vile wanataka. we are tired, teachers are well paid compared to the rest of ma-workers...think about the teachers you know and tell me any not doing well! When new ones are employed, once they join KNUT and KUPPET it will be the same story ad infinitum. The monkeys may change but the forest remains the same. This is like drinking beer to solve your problems. i guess the thinking is that the contract teachers will be paid less than a B per month. So assuming this goes as planned TSC will spend approx 3B for the three months on them. By then, all the cases will have been decided and teachers can go back to class (hopefully without a cent). On Contract..you do not enjoy benefits eg Allowances, pension..etc
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Anti_Burglar wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:githundi wrote:This is a zero sum game. They problem is not the thinking. rs, the problem has to do with wage inequalities in the country SRC was supposed to reign that,but failed miserably. The maximum wage of the most senior civil servants should be about 20 times that of the lowest paid civil servant. And by the way if the government cannot obey court orders,how does it expect the teachers and other to actors to obey them? This is the road to anarchy. Two wrongs don't make a right. Court order doesn't mean you stop thinking, we all know annual teacher's strike is big business and what money is set aside to buy sack them and hire afresh on new terms!! wakae nyumbani vile wanataka. we are tired, teachers are well paid compared to the rest of ma-workers...think about the teachers you know and tell me any not doing well! When new ones are employed, once they join KNUT and KUPPET it will be the same story ad infinitum. The monkeys may change but the forest remains the same. This is like drinking beer to solve your problems. If the others were to be let go, the new ones would never go on strike, hata if they joined the union. Even if they go back and the government refuses to pay for the days on strike, they will not go on strike again. For now they know its a game and once its over the pay will be backdated.
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 @Atalaku, can you confirm once teachers from makueni have been paid? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:@Atalaku, can you confirm once teachers from makueni have been paid?  Seriously who are these cord fellow's strategist advisers? They should fire them immediately!! If I were them, I would have started in Meru or Embu or Kericho or Nandi. ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Muheani wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:githundi wrote:This is a zero sum game. They problem is not the thinking. rs, the problem has to do with wage inequalities in the country SRC was supposed to reign that,but failed miserably. The maximum wage of the most senior civil servants should be about 20 times that of the lowest paid civil servant. And by the way if the government cannot obey court orders,how does it expect the teachers and other to actors to obey them? This is the road to anarchy. Two wrongs don't make a right. Court order doesn't mean you stop thinking, we all know annual teacher's strike is big business and what money is set aside to buy sack them and hire afresh on new terms!! wakae nyumbani vile wanataka. we are tired, teachers are well paid compared to the rest of ma-workers...think about the teachers you know and tell me any not doing well! When new ones are employed, once they join KNUT and KUPPET it will be the same story ad infinitum. The monkeys may change but the forest remains the same. This is like drinking beer to solve your problems. i guess the thinking is that the contract teachers will be paid less than a B per month. So assuming this goes as planned TSC will spend approx 3B for the three months on them. By then, all the cases will have been decided and teachers can go back to class (hopefully without a cent). On Contract..you do not enjoy benefits eg Allowances, pension..etc The right to form or join a union is enshrined in the constitution. Hence they are in a position to 'request' for these things through their union. I think TSC hopes these new teachers will be filled with gratitude for being employed and so will have goodwill. Hoping, gratitude and goodwill are shifting sands to base a long term policy on.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:githundi wrote:This is a zero sum game. They problem is not the thinking. rs, the problem has to do with wage inequalities in the country SRC was supposed to reign that,but failed miserably. The maximum wage of the most senior civil servants should be about 20 times that of the lowest paid civil servant. And by the way if the government cannot obey court orders,how does it expect the teachers and other to actors to obey them? This is the road to anarchy. Two wrongs don't make a right. Court order doesn't mean you stop thinking, we all know annual teacher's strike is big business and what money is set aside to buy sack them and hire afresh on new terms!! wakae nyumbani vile wanataka. we are tired, teachers are well paid compared to the rest of ma-workers...think about the teachers you know and tell me any not doing well! When new ones are employed, once they join KNUT and KUPPET it will be the same story ad infinitum. The monkeys may change but the forest remains the same. This is like drinking beer to solve your problems. If the others were to be let go, the new ones would never go on strike, hata if they joined the union. Even if they go back and the government refuses to pay for the days on strike, they will not go on strike again. For now they know its a game and once its over the pay will be backdated. These strikes have been going on for very many years even those still in school when their teachers started striking have joined the strike.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/15/2009 Posts: 142 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:@Atalaku, can you confirm once teachers from makueni have been paid? Who has the payroll?hehe UKITAFUTA UKABILA UTAKUFA BILA!
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