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Crane Collapse in Mecca's Grand Mosque
Impunity
#81 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2015 6:40:56 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
As much as it is acceptable to loose any life in such circumstance in this time and age, however Saudi govt has done quite a lot. See below sample photos:













Acceptable?
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AlphDoti
#82 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2015 6:58:43 PM
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Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
As much as it is acceptable to loose any life in such circumstance in this time and age, however Saudi govt has done quite a lot. See below sample photos:












Acceptable?

Not quite acceptable. Yes, the surveillance cameras are there, control center is there, but now they need to use this equipment to prevent and solve problems and disaster.

You see, with all these surveillance, they should have foreseen the disaster that was going to arise when two groups of pilgrims moving at opposite direction meet at the junction!
Kratos
#83 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2015 10:25:37 PM
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Joined: 9/19/2011
Posts: 1,694
AlphDoti wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
As much as it is acceptable to loose any life in such circumstance in this time and age, however Saudi govt has done quite a lot. See below sample photos:












Acceptable?

Not quite acceptable. Yes, the surveillance cameras are there, control center is there, but now they need to use this equipment to prevent and solve problems and disaster.

You see, with all these surveillance, they should have foreseen the disaster that was going to arise when two groups of pilgrims moving at opposite direction meet at the junction!


You mean they were using all that for decorating their control rooms? Be realistic for once, no amount of innovation and technology can save man from himself. Treat man as a constant in that equation!

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
AlphDoti
#84 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 12:35:18 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Kratos wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
As much as it is acceptable to loose any life in such circumstance in this time and age, however Saudi govt has done quite a lot. See below sample photos:












Acceptable?

Not quite acceptable. Yes, the surveillance cameras are there, control center is there, but now they need to use this equipment to prevent and solve problems and disaster.

You see, with all these surveillance, they should have foreseen the disaster that was going to arise when two groups of pilgrims moving at opposite direction meet at the junction!


You mean they were using all that for decorating their control rooms? Be realistic for once, no amount of innovation and technology can save man from himself. Treat man as a constant in that equation!

You are right @kratos, just like you mentioned below...
Kratos wrote:

... a lecturer who used to tell us "kujaza foolscap sio kupita mtihani" Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Kratos wrote:



I visited Machakos District hospital 6 years back and never imagined it could be transformed to look something like this.
They say Alfie is playing politics and PR but this is the sort of PR i would continuously vote for. In fact if Dr Mutua was the one leading the Okoa pesa mashinani initiative i would sit up and listen. With the "meager" funds he has received from the national government he has transformed Machakos, I hope the Muthamas and kalonzos are watching this space.
Baratang
#85 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 12:46:26 PM
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Joined: 10/6/2009
Posts: 587
AlphDoti wrote:
Kratos wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
As much as it is acceptable to loose any life in such circumstance in this time and age, however Saudi govt has done quite a lot. See below sample photos:












Acceptable?

Not quite acceptable. Yes, the surveillance cameras are there, control center is there, but now they need to use this equipment to prevent and solve problems and disaster.

You see, with all these surveillance, they should have foreseen the disaster that was going to arise when two groups of pilgrims moving at opposite direction meet at the junction!


You mean they were using all that for decorating their control rooms? Be realistic for once, no amount of innovation and technology can save man from himself. Treat man as a constant in that equation!

You are right @kratos, just like you mentioned below...
Kratos wrote:

... a lecturer who used to tell us "kujaza foolscap sio kupita mtihani" Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

@Alphdoti How do you use a cctv camera and a central control room to prevent a disaster.
Kratos wrote:



I visited Machakos District hospital 6 years back and never imagined it could be transformed to look something like this.
They say Alfie is playing politics and PR but this is the sort of PR i would continuously vote for. In fact if Dr Mutua was the one leading the Okoa pesa mashinani initiative i would sit up and listen. With the "meager" funds he has received from the national government he has transformed Machakos, I hope the Muthamas and kalonzos are watching this space.

AlphDoti
#86 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:01:15 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Baratang wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Kratos wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
As much as it is acceptable to loose any life in such circumstance in this time and age, however Saudi govt has done quite a lot. See below sample photos:












Acceptable?

Not quite acceptable. Yes, the surveillance cameras are there, control center is there, but now they need to use this equipment to prevent and solve problems and disaster.

You see, with all these surveillance, they should have foreseen the disaster that was going to arise when two groups of pilgrims moving at opposite direction meet at the junction!


You mean they were using all that for decorating their control rooms? Be realistic for once, no amount of innovation and technology can save man from himself. Treat man as a constant in that equation!

You are right @kratos, just like you mentioned below...
Kratos wrote:

... a lecturer who used to tell us "kujaza foolscap sio kupita mtihani" Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Kratos wrote:



I visited Machakos District hospital 6 years back and never imagined it could be transformed to look something like this.
They say Alfie is playing politics and PR but this is the sort of PR i would continuously vote for. In fact if Dr Mutua was the one leading the Okoa pesa mashinani initiative i would sit up and listen. With the "meager" funds he has received from the national government he has transformed Machakos, I hope the Muthamas and kalonzos are watching this space.

@Alphdoti How do you use a cctv camera and a central control room to prevent a disaster.



hamburglar
#87 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:29:01 PM
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Behemoth wrote:
You cannot handle spiritual (devil) matters physically (stoning). Spirit goes with spirit while the physical goes with the physical!


Can this devil stoning be staggered so that the stoning happens say quarterly?


allot of rubbish you are saying. i donot even need to ask when is the last time you went to church or read a Bible.God destroyed a whole city Sodom and Gomorrah because of sin.and he's doing it even today.he's destroying nightclubs,drug dens,brothels etc etc with fire,making buildings collapse ...because He hates sin.
This mu....are so sinful God had to kill them not just destroy their idol worship strictures.


This kind of reasoning is really sad. Did you just say that your god's way of dealing with things that do not conform to his liking is by killing people? Wow. Ati making buildings collapse and burning everything he does not agree with? This is shocking. The above post would have been funny were it not so sad. Somebody actually thinks that it's ok to kill people who choose to live their lives different from what your god wants. Whoa. Religion and gods are a serious disaster to mankind.
hamburglar
#88 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:31:36 PM
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Joined: 12/17/2011
Posts: 887
Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Behemoth wrote:
You cannot handle spiritual (devil) matters physically (stoning). Spirit goes with spirit while the physical goes with the physical!


Can this devil stoning be staggered so that the stoning happens say quarterly?


allot of rubbish you are saying. i donot even need to ask when is the last time you went to church or read a Bible.God destroyed a whole city Sodom and Gomorrah because of sin.and he's doing it even today.he's destroying nightclubs,drug dens,brothels etc etc with fire,making buildings collapse ...because He hates sin.
This mu....are so sinful God had to kill them not just destroy their idol worship strictures.


This kind of reasoning is really sad. Did you just say that your god's way of dealing with things that do not conform to his liking is by killing people? Wow. Ati making buildings collapse and burning everything he does not agree with? This is shocking. The above post would have been funny were it not so sad. Somebody actually thinks that it's ok to kill people who choose to live their lives different from what your god wants. Whoa. Religion and gods are a serious disaster to mankind.
¿
#89 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:10:32 PM
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Posts: 604
¿ wrote:
Three Kenyans killed in Mecca stampede

Quote:
Three Kenyans were killed in a stampede near Mecca that left more than 700 pilgrims dead.

According to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, one other Kenyan was among the 863 injured in Thursday's incident in Saudi Arabia during the annual hajj in Mina, on the outskirts of Mecca.


Six Kenyans pilgrims dead, nine missing in Mecca tragedy - Supkem
Kratos
#90 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 4:40:23 PM
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Joined: 9/19/2011
Posts: 1,694
AlphDoti wrote:
Kratos wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
As much as it is acceptable to loose any life in such circumstance in this time and age, however Saudi govt has done quite a lot. See below sample photos:




Acceptable?

Not quite acceptable. Yes, the surveillance cameras are there, control center is there, but now they need to use this equipment to prevent and solve problems and disaster.

You see, with all these surveillance, they should have foreseen the disaster that was going to arise when two groups of pilgrims moving at opposite direction meet at the junction!


You mean they were using all that for decorating their control rooms? Be realistic for once, no amount of innovation and technology can save man from himself. Treat man as a constant in that equation!

You are right @kratos, just like you mentioned below...
Kratos wrote:

... a lecturer who used to tell us "kujaza foolscap sio kupita mtihani" Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Kratos wrote:



I visited Machakos District hospital 6 years back and never imagined it could be transformed to look something like this.
They say Alfie is playing politics and PR but this is the sort of PR i would continuously vote for. In fact if Dr Mutua was the one leading the Okoa pesa mashinani initiative i would sit up and listen. With the "meager" funds he has received from the national government he has transformed Machakos, I hope the Muthamas and kalonzos are watching this space.


What on earth are you talking about. I understand you may have been affected but that's no reason to copy paste unrelated posts to this thread.

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
AlphDoti
#91 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 4:49:56 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Kratos wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Kratos wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
As much as it is acceptable to loose any life in such circumstance in this time and age, however Saudi govt has done quite a lot. See below sample photos:



Acceptable?

Not quite acceptable. Yes, the surveillance cameras are there, control center is there, but now they need to use this equipment to prevent and solve problems and disaster.

You see, with all these surveillance, they should have foreseen the disaster that was going to arise when two groups of pilgrims moving at opposite direction meet at the junction!


You mean they were using all that for decorating their control rooms? Be realistic for once, no amount of innovation and technology can save man from himself. Treat man as a constant in that equation!

You are right @kratos, just like you mentioned below...
Kratos wrote:

... a lecturer who used to tell us "kujaza foolscap sio kupita mtihani" Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Kratos wrote:



I visited Machakos District hospital 6 years back and never imagined it could be transformed to look something like this.
They say Alfie is playing politics and PR but this is the sort of PR i would continuously vote for. In fact if Dr Mutua was the one leading the Okoa pesa mashinani initiative i would sit up and listen. With the "meager" funds he has received from the national government he has transformed Machakos, I hope the Muthamas and kalonzos are watching this space.

What on earth are you talking about. I understand you may have been affected but that's no reason to copy paste unrelated posts to this thread.

@Kratos, I was thinking we treat man as a constant too in that equation of equipping a hospital for example?
Cornelius Vanderbilt
#92 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 1:22:07 PM
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The Good Lord Again was in Paris,France doing some cleanup.He was at a Paris concert hall called Le Bataclan.Where a DEATH Metal group called Eagles of Death Metal was playing.Well imagine dieing while worshiping the devil? Funny enough the bands Members escaped.Well God is merciful still in his anger.But never the less cleanup had to be done.
Anti_Burglar
#93 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2015 8:29:32 AM
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Joined: 9/11/2015
Posts: 1,024

Now is the time to call the stinky hog alphdoti all the names he rightfully deserves. Everytime he tries to paint his religion in bright colours his friends come and correctly mess him up big time and raise a big stink in the name of his religion.
FRM2011
#94 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2015 10:03:11 AM
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Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,459
Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
The Good Lord Again was in Paris,France doing some cleanup.He was at a Paris concert hall called Le Bataclan.Where a DEATH Metal group called Eagles of Death Metal was playing.Well imagine dieing while worshiping the devil? Funny enough the bands Members escaped.Well God is merciful still in his anger.But never the less cleanup had to be done.


Really@cornelius ?????

I am a strong believer in God but on this one I will agree with @ham. This God you are referring to here is strange even to me. And he really needs to work on his anger issues. Therapy perhaps ??
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