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Hand dug shallow well
Rollins
#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 11:16:44 AM
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Hi Wazuans. I hope this thread belongs here but i stand to be collected. I have some boys hand digging for me a shallow well in shags. They are past 100 ft but have been encountering 'gas' challenge. Apparently there is a gas that seeps from the crust and it can be choking so digging is very slow. Anyone know ho the gas is dealt with. They have been using banana stalks but its not too much.
Where are the wizened ones to help out a brother!

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Rollins
#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 11:26:53 AM
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Eeerm....watu wasaidie mimi. Hapana kusoma na kusangaa tuSad
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Kaigangio
#3 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 12:07:55 PM
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Hey chief, if your boys are already past 90 feet below the surface, they would better be careful not to stay in that hole for more than five minutes continuously in any digging session. Otherwise they may suffer some breathing problems.

There is nothing you can do about the gas unless of course you install an air pump to pump out the gas. But again if you do that, you might suck almost all the air in the hole and your boys will have nothing to breath in.
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
hardwood
#4 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 12:27:38 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
Hey chief, if your boys are already past 90 feet below the surface, they would better be careful not to stay in that hole for more than five minutes continuously in any digging session. Otherwise they may suffer some breathing problems.

There is nothing you can do about the gas unless of course you install an air pump to pump out the gas. But again if you do that, you might suck almost all the air in the hole and your boys will have nothing to breath in.


The pump should blow fresh air in to displace the noxious gas.
Rollins
#5 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 12:35:25 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Hey chief, if your boys are already past 90 feet below the surface, they would better be careful not to stay in that hole for more than five minutes continuously in any digging session. Otherwise they may suffer some breathing problems.

There is nothing you can do about the gas unless of course you install an air pump to pump out the gas. But again if you do that, you might suck almost all the air in the hole and your boys will have nothing to breath in.


The pump should blow fresh air in to displace the noxious gas.



Now that sounds like an idea
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Kaigangio
#6 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 1:24:09 PM
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Rollins wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Hey chief, if your boys are already past 90 feet below the surface, they would better be careful not to stay in that hole for more than five minutes continuously in any digging session. Otherwise they may suffer some breathing problems.

There is nothing you can do about the gas unless of course you install an air pump to pump out the gas. But again if you do that, you might suck almost all the air in the hole and your boys will have nothing to breath in.


The pump should blow fresh air in to displace the noxious gas.



Now that sounds like an idea

@hardwood...your arguement is fallacious...pumping in air into the hole will be a waste of time.
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
tycho
#7 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 2:27:24 PM
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You could work in shifts and recommend the workers take deep breaths and water when on break. Then cheer them on, give them energy and sense of purpose.
Swenani
#8 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 2:31:50 PM
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Buy them oxygen masks
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kaka2za
#9 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 3:03:03 PM
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Is 90ft really shallow? Seems too dangerous to me. Stop digging until you get expert opinion.
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majimaji
#10 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 3:07:19 PM
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It may require that you abandon the well as the identity of the gas is not know. For example, if the gas is bio in nature, then the gas could be a mix of methane and sulpfur dioxide. sulphur dioxide smells like rotten eggs.
ZZE123
#11 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 4:11:38 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Buy them oxygen masks

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Rollins
#12 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 7:16:14 AM
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majimaji wrote:

It may require that you abandon the well as the identity of the gas is not know. For example, if the gas is bio in nature, then the gas could be a mix of methane and sulpfur dioxide. sulphur dioxide smells like rotten eggs.

I have already invested substantially in this project and also in dire need of water. This is the only viable source at the moment so i am not about to give up....
Will try the tycho idea and see where it gets me. The average depth of wells in that area ranges from 95-120 ft so its basically within grasp
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Speculz
#13 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:05:31 AM
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Rollins wrote:
majimaji wrote:

It may require that you abandon the well as the identity of the gas is not know. For example, if the gas is bio in nature, then the gas could be a mix of methane and sulpfur dioxide. sulphur dioxide smells like rotten eggs.

I have already invested substantially in this project and also in dire need of water. This is the only viable source at the moment so i am not about to give up....
Will try the tycho idea and see where it gets me. The average depth of wells in that area ranges from 95-120 ft so its basically within grasp


Identify the gas first , you may be courting disaster .... , you might have Hydrogen sulfide , and you may end up drinking hydrosulfuric acid , invest in litmus paper and do a litmus test.

fyi : Above gas is poisonous and corrosive oh plus explosive too.
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wazuaguest
#14 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:09:36 AM
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Even if you get to the water it might not help,it might be too salty
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#15 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:03:51 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Hey chief, if your boys are already past 90 feet below the surface, they would better be careful not to stay in that hole for more than five minutes continuously in any digging session. Otherwise they may suffer some breathing problems.

There is nothing you can do about the gas unless of course you install an air pump to pump out the gas. But again if you do that, you might suck almost all the air in the hole and your boys will have nothing to breath in.


The pump should blow fresh air in to displace the noxious gas.


Seriously??Shame on you .Go back to your chem teacher and ask for a refund.smile . I would go with having the gas identified first especially for toxicity and combustibility.You see,it might take one strike on a rock and Ka-boom,explosion.
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