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Rank: Member Joined: 3/23/2011 Posts: 503
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Hi Wazuans. I hope this thread belongs here but i stand to be collected. I have some boys hand digging for me a shallow well in shags. They are past 100 ft but have been encountering 'gas' challenge. Apparently there is a gas that seeps from the crust and it can be choking so digging is very slow. Anyone know ho the gas is dealt with. They have been using banana stalks but its not too much. Where are the wizened ones to help out a brother! Even a BrOKeN clock is right twice a day
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/23/2011 Posts: 503
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Eeerm....watu wasaidie mimi. Hapana kusoma na kusangaa tu Even a BrOKeN clock is right twice a day
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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Hey chief, if your boys are already past 90 feet below the surface, they would better be careful not to stay in that hole for more than five minutes continuously in any digging session. Otherwise they may suffer some breathing problems. There is nothing you can do about the gas unless of course you install an air pump to pump out the gas. But again if you do that, you might suck almost all the air in the hole and your boys will have nothing to breath in. ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Kaigangio wrote:Hey chief, if your boys are already past 90 feet below the surface, they would better be careful not to stay in that hole for more than five minutes continuously in any digging session. Otherwise they may suffer some breathing problems.
There is nothing you can do about the gas unless of course you install an air pump to pump out the gas. But again if you do that, you might suck almost all the air in the hole and your boys will have nothing to breath in. The pump should blow fresh air in to displace the noxious gas.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/23/2011 Posts: 503
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hardwood wrote:Kaigangio wrote:Hey chief, if your boys are already past 90 feet below the surface, they would better be careful not to stay in that hole for more than five minutes continuously in any digging session. Otherwise they may suffer some breathing problems.
There is nothing you can do about the gas unless of course you install an air pump to pump out the gas. But again if you do that, you might suck almost all the air in the hole and your boys will have nothing to breath in. The pump should blow fresh air in to displace the noxious gas. Now that sounds like an idea Even a BrOKeN clock is right twice a day
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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Rollins wrote:hardwood wrote:Kaigangio wrote:Hey chief, if your boys are already past 90 feet below the surface, they would better be careful not to stay in that hole for more than five minutes continuously in any digging session. Otherwise they may suffer some breathing problems.
There is nothing you can do about the gas unless of course you install an air pump to pump out the gas. But again if you do that, you might suck almost all the air in the hole and your boys will have nothing to breath in. The pump should blow fresh air in to displace the noxious gas. Now that sounds like an idea @hardwood...your arguement is fallacious...pumping in air into the hole will be a waste of time. ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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You could work in shifts and recommend the workers take deep breaths and water when on break. Then cheer them on, give them energy and sense of purpose.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Buy them oxygen masks If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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Is 90ft really shallow? Seems too dangerous to me. Stop digging until you get expert opinion. Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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It may require that you abandon the well as the identity of the gas is not know. For example, if the gas is bio in nature, then the gas could be a mix of methane and sulpfur dioxide. sulphur dioxide smells like rotten eggs.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/23/2011 Posts: 503
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majimaji wrote: It may require that you abandon the well as the identity of the gas is not know. For example, if the gas is bio in nature, then the gas could be a mix of methane and sulpfur dioxide. sulphur dioxide smells like rotten eggs.
I have already invested substantially in this project and also in dire need of water. This is the only viable source at the moment so i am not about to give up.... Will try the tycho idea and see where it gets me. The average depth of wells in that area ranges from 95-120 ft so its basically within grasp Even a BrOKeN clock is right twice a day
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2011 Posts: 391 Location: Nairobi
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Rollins wrote:majimaji wrote: It may require that you abandon the well as the identity of the gas is not know. For example, if the gas is bio in nature, then the gas could be a mix of methane and sulpfur dioxide. sulphur dioxide smells like rotten eggs.
I have already invested substantially in this project and also in dire need of water. This is the only viable source at the moment so i am not about to give up.... Will try the tycho idea and see where it gets me. The average depth of wells in that area ranges from 95-120 ft so its basically within grasp Identify the gas first , you may be courting disaster .... , you might have Hydrogen sulfide , and you may end up drinking hydrosulfuric acid , invest in litmus paper and do a litmus test. fyi : Above gas is poisonous and corrosive oh plus explosive too. "You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Stephen Wright
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/9/2012 Posts: 576
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Even if you get to the water it might not help,it might be too salty Africa belongs to Africans.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Kaigangio wrote:Hey chief, if your boys are already past 90 feet below the surface, they would better be careful not to stay in that hole for more than five minutes continuously in any digging session. Otherwise they may suffer some breathing problems.
There is nothing you can do about the gas unless of course you install an air pump to pump out the gas. But again if you do that, you might suck almost all the air in the hole and your boys will have nothing to breath in. The pump should blow fresh air in to displace the noxious gas. Seriously??  .Go back to your chem teacher and ask for a refund.  . I would go with having the gas identified first especially for toxicity and combustibility.You see,it might take one strike on a rock and Ka-boom,explosion. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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