Unless you are being sarcastic, until there is more "tribal balancing" in football in Kenya, don't waste time "analyzing" Harambee Stars performance (kupigia mbuzi guitar), there is nothing like "better tribes in football" just hooligans, other better teams worldwide and in Africa are not dominated by the "special Kenyan football tribe/s" and they get very far. A Kenyan referee should also be able to live a decent, respectable life driving at least a mutumba Porsche, if VIOLENCE and intimidation rules, kwisha mpira, the ref is the "center of power" in a football game not a tribe or teams, or people too childish to let a game end peacefully, you introduce tribalism in football, then players will remain like sugar belt companies, living of the goodwill of "Other Kenyans Contributions" gaarment subsidies, if you remove tribalism and violence, we are in next world cup automatically. In the line-up, , no maasai, no mkamba, no rendille, there was only ONE player from "these people" when they should be about a quarter of the players in team e.t.c ( i won't tell you how a friend broke his leg in Kenyan football) what is happening? do you expect to go anywhere?, i never bother!

Harambee Stars Stars starting 11: Boniface Oluoch (Tusker), James Situma (Sofapaka), Clifford Miheso (Thika United), Brian Mandela, Joakins Atudo (both Tusker), Victor Mugabe (Celtic, Scotland), Kevin Kimani (JMJ Academy), Jamal Mohammed (Mathare United) ,Humphrey Mieno (Sofapaka), Dennis Oliech (Auxerre, France) ,Patrick Oboya (MFK Ruzomberok, Slovakia)

Substitutes: Duncan Ochieng, Kepha Aswani, Joseph Shikokoti, Dennis Nzomo, Titus Mulama, Kevin Ochieng, Collins Okoth

Lets face it we are useless...

Taz
The Ugandan federation is not as useless as the Kenyan one. They do not hurriedly assemble teams 3 days before matches. They set up camp weeks in advance and play friendlies. Kenya does no such thing.

A few months back, Kenya played Botswana and flew in only a few hours before the match. The players who were jet lagged and tired ended up losing 3-0. With this level or poor organization, you cannot expect wins.

Back in 2010, Kenya had numerous players playing in European leagues, Mariga at Inter, Wanyama at Celtic, Oliech at Auxerre, all playing in the champions league and they still could not beat Uganda because the preparations were pathetic. Kenya clearly had better players than Uganda and still could not beat them

I hope Kenyan players are not reading the ignorant posts about Kenya being hapless at football.

Years ago I was on a different Kenyan forum arguing that Kenyans were capable of winning medals in sprints and field events. Many know-nothings said we are not genetically predisposed to sprints and incapable of field events.

Kenya now has Yego winning the javelin and Bett winning the hurdles. They were finally able to get the appropriate technical training. Yego for example was invited to go and learn in Finland under qualified coaches.

I am not saying Kenya can compete with Jamaica. But surely if Chinese and Japanese can run sub 10.00 than why can't Kenya ?

I am saying the same thing about football. If Kenya gets the same level of organization as Zambia or Uganda, then Kenya will stop being perennial losers.

One difference between Kenya and Zambia for example is that FAZ is run by a former footballer, Kalusha Bwalya while FKF is run by a know-nothing Sam Nyamweya.

And this is the problem with Kenya sports. Too many people fancy themselves as sports experts when they literally know nothing. You can see that on this forum. Unfortunately for Kenya, such people are finding themselves in leadership positions much to the detriment of the sport.

During the brief periods when Kenya had a modicum of decent organization, Harambee stars did well. Do people realize that when Joab Omino was KFF chairman, Kenya qualified for AFCON 3 times in a row. And this was during an era when only 8 teams qualified. Note that Omino was a former player.

you are right on all counts.... perhaps you could assist these armchair experts! There is one who literally knows everything! he (I am assuming he is a he) knows about volleyball - Sijui why we bother with Lung'aho. Women Volleyball... blah blah blah! F1.... ni mnoma! He also is a great rugby expert and now he is weighing in on football! If he could tone down and go and do something in the field - it will do us some benefit (both the silence and him really going to meet the experts). Until then he will next assure us how Ajua deserves to be in the worldcup!

Post zote za huyu msee "mnoma" are always about how much he knows and the people doing those things know nothing!