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Mumias Sugar huge demand
mawinder
#1501 Posted : Friday, September 04, 2015 2:26:39 PM
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HaMaina wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Never understand why people do not like positive news.

In Citizen TV last evening Mumias back in full swing producing 6,000 tons of sugar per day. In stock 70,000 litres of ethanol. Ama iyo ni mbaya



And still not producing at 100%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfbi-TYhnc

This is not possible at all as its capacity is around 800 tonnes per day.I pity wazuans who follow our local news channels and believe in those jourmalists.Must be hogwash press!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
HaMaina
#1502 Posted : Friday, September 04, 2015 3:17:47 PM
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mawinder wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Never understand why people do not like positive news.

In Citizen TV last evening Mumias back in full swing producing 6,000 tons of sugar per day. In stock 70,000 litres of ethanol. Ama iyo ni mbaya



And still not producing at 100%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfbi-TYhnc

This is not possible at all as its capacity is around 800 tonnes per day.I pity wazuans who follow our local news channels and believe in those jourmalists.Must be hogwash press!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


I think your scale is wrong, 800 tonnes can easily be offloaded by 80 10tonne trucks, and its supposed to cover the entire county? Even the smaller private millers are averaging 2,000-4,000 tonnes.

“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
mawinder
#1503 Posted : Friday, September 04, 2015 3:55:41 PM
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HaMaina wrote:
mawinder wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Never understand why people do not like positive news.

In Citizen TV last evening Mumias back in full swing producing 6,000 tons of sugar per day. In stock 70,000 litres of ethanol. Ama iyo ni mbaya



And still not producing at 100%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfbi-TYhnc

This is not possible at all as its capacity is around 800 tonnes per day.I pity wazuans who follow our local news channels and believe in those jourmalists.Must be hogwash press!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


I think your scale is wrong, 800 tonnes can easily be offloaded by 80 10tonne trucks, and its supposed to cover the entire county? Even the smaller private millers are averaging 2,000-4,000 tonnes.


Mumias can crush around 8000 tonnes of sugarcane a day but not sugar!!!!!
Even all the millers combined in Kenya do not and have never produced 6000 tonnes of sugar a day and if that were possible then Kenya would be an exporter of sugar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VituVingiSana
#1504 Posted : Friday, September 04, 2015 4:13:17 PM
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HaMaina wrote:
mawinder wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Never understand why people do not like positive news.

In Citizen TV last evening Mumias back in full swing producing 6,000 tons of sugar per day. In stock 70,000 litres of ethanol. Ama iyo ni mbaya



And still not producing at 100%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfbi-TYhnc

This is not possible at all as its capacity is around 800 tonnes per day.I pity wazuans who follow our local news channels and believe in those jourmalists.Must be hogwash press!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


I think your scale is wrong, 800 tonnes can easily be offloaded by 80 10tonne trucks, and its supposed to cover the entire county? Even the smaller private millers are averaging 2,000-4,000 tonnes.


6,000 tons x 300 days = 1,800,000 tons.
Kenya's consumption 850,000 tons of sugar.
I don't even need to discuss the other millers.

@Mawinder 10 - 0 @HaMaina

*In Wazua, read what the others write. And do a little research. Then think.*
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HaMaina
#1505 Posted : Friday, September 04, 2015 4:21:52 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
mawinder wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Never understand why people do not like positive news.

In Citizen TV last evening Mumias back in full swing producing 6,000 tons of sugar per day. In stock 70,000 litres of ethanol. Ama iyo ni mbaya



And still not producing at 100%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfbi-TYhnc

This is not possible at all as its capacity is around 800 tonnes per day.I pity wazuans who follow our local news channels and believe in those jourmalists.Must be hogwash press!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


I think your scale is wrong, 800 tonnes can easily be offloaded by 80 10tonne trucks, and its supposed to cover the entire county? Even the smaller private millers are averaging 2,000-4,000 tonnes.


6,000 tons x 300 days = 1,800,000 tons.
Kenya's consumption 850,000 tons of sugar.
I don't even need to discuss the other millers.

@Mawinder 10 - 0 @HaMaina

*In Wazua, read what the others write. And do a little research. Then think.*


Maybe they got the figures wrong.

http://www.mumias-sugar....page=corporate-strategy
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
VituVingiSana
#1506 Posted : Friday, September 04, 2015 4:33:03 PM
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HaMaina wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
mawinder wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Never understand why people do not like positive news.

In Citizen TV last evening Mumias back in full swing producing 6,000 tons of sugar per day. In stock 70,000 litres of ethanol. Ama iyo ni mbaya



And still not producing at 100%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfbi-TYhnc

This is not possible at all as its capacity is around 800 tonnes per day.I pity wazuans who follow our local news channels and believe in those jourmalists.Must be hogwash press!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


I think your scale is wrong, 800 tonnes can easily be offloaded by 80 10tonne trucks, and its supposed to cover the entire county? Even the smaller private millers are averaging 2,000-4,000 tonnes.


6,000 tons x 300 days = 1,800,000 tons.
Kenya's consumption 850,000 tons of sugar.
I don't even need to discuss the other millers.

@Mawinder 10 - 0 @HaMaina

*In Wazua, read what the others write. And do a little research. Then think.*


Maybe they got the figures wrong.

http://www.mumias-sugar....page=corporate-strategy

No, they did not. They say they can produce 270,000 tonnes of sugar annually. Do the division to get production per day using 30 days annual downtime.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mawinder
#1507 Posted : Friday, September 04, 2015 4:43:56 PM
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HaMaina wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
mawinder wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Never understand why people do not like positive news.

In Citizen TV last evening Mumias back in full swing producing 6,000 tons of sugar per day. In stock 70,000 litres of ethanol. Ama iyo ni mbaya



And still not producing at 100%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfbi-TYhnc

This is not possible at all as its capacity is around 800 tonnes per day.I pity wazuans who follow our local news channels and believe in those jourmalists.Must be hogwash press!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


I think your scale is wrong, 800 tonnes can easily be offloaded by 80 10tonne trucks, and its supposed to cover the entire county? Even the smaller private millers are averaging 2,000-4,000 tonnes.


6,000 tons x 300 days = 1,800,000 tons.
Kenya's consumption 850,000 tons of sugar.
I don't even need to discuss the other millers.

@Mawinder 10 - 0 @HaMaina

*In Wazua, read what the others write. And do a little research. Then think.*


Maybe they got the figures wrong.

http://www.mumias-sugar....page=corporate-strategy

It is you.Differentiate between cane and sugar.On average 10 tonnes of cane produce one(1) tonne of sugar.Reread what Mumias Sugar have posted on their website, anyway my beef is where if true did the media get 6000 tonnes of sugar a day!!!!!!!!!!!
Boris Boyka
#1508 Posted : Friday, September 04, 2015 8:58:23 PM
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mawinder wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
mawinder wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Never understand why people do not like positive news.

In Citizen TV last evening Mumias back in full swing producing 6,000 tons of sugar per day. In stock 70,000 litres of ethanol. Ama iyo ni mbaya



And still not producing at 100%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfbi-TYhnc

This is not possible at all as its capacity is around 800 tonnes per day.I pity wazuans who follow our local news channels and believe in those jourmalists.Must be hogwash press!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


I think your scale is wrong, 800 tonnes can easily be offloaded by 80 10tonne trucks, and its supposed to cover the entire county? Even the smaller private millers are averaging 2,000-4,000 tonnes.


6,000 tons x 300 days = 1,800,000 tons.
Kenya's consumption 850,000 tons of sugar.
I don't even need to discuss the other millers.

@Mawinder 10 - 0 @HaMaina

*In Wazua, read what the others write. And do a little research. Then think.*


Maybe they got the figures wrong.

http://www.mumias-sugar....page=corporate-strategy

It is you.Differentiate between cane and sugar.On average 10 tonnes of cane produce one(1) tonne of sugar.Reread what Mumias Sugar have posted on their website, anyway my beef is where if true did the media get 6000 tonnes of sugar a day!!!!!!!!!!!

Whenever i see an MSC thread my mind rings @Hamaina. @vvs he/she never wants you to mention anything negative about MSC...in other words @Hamaina is in LOVE with MSC (affectionate).
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
streetwise
#1509 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:14:30 AM
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MSC seems to be waking up. Any insider information or is it just another emotional wave of activity

NB: moved from 1.76 to 2 in two days 13.6% !!!
HaMaina
#1510 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 2:53:08 PM
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streetwise wrote:
MSC seems to be waking up. Any insider information or is it just another emotional wave of activity

NB: moved from 1.76 to 2 in two days 13.6% !!!


End year financials should be coming out ant time, lets wait and see if there's anything new.
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
HaMaina
#1511 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 10:40:34 AM
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I wonder what he has to say about this?

SUGAR:WAS KHALWALE BRIBED WITH SH12M?

http://theweeklycitizen....lwale-bribed-with-sh12m/
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
mawinder
#1512 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 11:06:00 AM
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[quote=HaMaina]I wonder what he has to say about this?

SUGAR:WAS KHALWALE BRIBED WITH SH12M?

http://theweeklycitizen....wale-bribed-with-sh12m/[/quote]
That story has stuff that does not add up.First it is Khalwale who should be bribing to Kidero to withdraw the case, secondly COOP bank account numbers have 14 digits not 13 as in the paper, thirdly if the bribe was paid in Arusha, Khalwale would not have gone to the lowly Tom Mboya streets to bank such money but would have gone to affluent areas, fourthly this is a civil case and Khalwale is not physically required in court.Only Kidero can withdraw the case and if he withdraws it will give credence to Khalwale's claims.Alwaka the owner of the paper is a gun for hire and he could have been paid by someone to craft that story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HaMaina
#1513 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 11:13:58 AM
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mawinder wrote:
[quote=HaMaina]I wonder what he has to say about this?

SUGAR:WAS KHALWALE BRIBED WITH SH12M?

http://theweeklycitizen....wale-bribed-with-sh12m/[/quote]
That story has stuff that does not add up.First it is Khalwale who should be bribing to Kidero to withdraw the case, secondly COOP bank account numbers have 14 digits not 13 as in the paper, thirdly if the bribe was paid in Arusha, Khalwale would not have gone to the lowly Tom Mboya streets to bank such money but would have gone to affluent areas, fourthly this is a civil case and Khalwale is not physically required in court.Only Kidero can withdraw the case and if he withdraws it will give credence to Khalwale's claims.Alwaka the owner of the paper is a gun for hire and he could have been paid by someone to craft that story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Khalwale's Responce to the issue.

http://nairobinews.co.ke...over-mumias-sugar-saga/
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
streetwise
#1514 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 1:56:39 PM
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And their sugar is all over 1 Kg white 125.00 . 2 Kg brown 240.00.

Will this strategy really work ?.
gadj
#1515 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 3:10:59 PM
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No, that strategy will not work Nzoia and Kabras are retailing at Kshs 100 per Kg. Majority who purchase mumias sugar are the stockholders.
HaMaina
#1516 Posted : Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:48:30 AM
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More of the "I don't want","I'm not ready" story.

Western, Nyanza leaders oppose privatization of sugar companies
16 September 2015, 09:23

http://www.news24.co.ke/...ugar-companies-20150916
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
HaMaina
#1517 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:55:09 AM
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Wazuan's kindly note the use of the word "by".

http://www.mediamaxnetwo...-issue-set-for-december/
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
streetwise
#1518 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2015 10:32:46 AM
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To raise 5B they will have to offer right of 2 shares for each held and sell at 1.8

They surely don't expect the share to be at 3.3 by Dec 2015. This would need high level of manipulation
heri
#1519 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2015 10:42:41 AM
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Anyone know when we can expect FY financials to know how bad things are

heri
#1520 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2015 10:44:58 AM
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Anyone know when we can expect FY financials to know how bad things are

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