danas10 wrote:tycho wrote:
I accept your apology. Think not of any offense because I see none.
What I'm trying to do is to expose the working of two apparently different minds, and their possibly common features and if successful, use the information to further the discussion that may have been perhaps too constrained.
1. I haven't defended having affairs- I have only accepted my propensity for it and used myself as an entry into the psychology and philosophy involved. Nay, I have been digging into my own spirituality. So how is it that all this has passed your notice that you think I'm defending affairs?
2. What does it mean to be 'unnerved', and how were you affected as far as your response goes?
3. Are there similarities between the working of our minds? Can the similarities be said to be objective?
Let's keep talking, you're helping me open and probably change my mind.
OK.
Let me start from this statement... "So to the elements of the hapless tunes I hear, I'm charged to know, and act, and more so achieve my freely chosen objective. Freedom born of my heightened self consciousness and knowledge"
If I said this of an action that I have naturalized through my pattern of thoughts, I most probably would be inclined to defend the position assumed as a result. My tunes are such that there is a thought that leads to opinion, then behavior is bred from the choices made. Eventually you have a narration of experience(s). And then it seems OK.
Why was I unnerved? Because it seemed to imply you are OK with something you know hurts someone else (in this case your spouse). If I may ask, do you think perfect love can end affairs.
I think I have allowed my mind to accept that if I will hurt someone, its better to walk away. If someone portrays an image deceitfully, I will walk away from them too. I know this is cowardly but I could defend it as its borne out of a free will.
I respect your choice of action. In fact, you need not defend it to ME, though you may need to interrogate it for your self.
For me, I realize that the propensity for affairs is actually a kind of condition resulting from what appears to be a mind virus- mvirus- lag. For this mvirus, the basic premise is simply that my needs are met from without. How this mvirus fashions itself in my experience is most intriguing, especially when I consider that it was formed in the womb, and was affirmed through the entire socialization process.
Notice your choice to walk out is driven by the mviral basis.
So far, it seems that I have a very limited understanding of the mind. This has left me with plenty of vulnerability, even to con games.
The universe as it is seems to me, to be under perfect love, but affairs and evil exist. Why is it so? I realize it's because of how my mind works, and what it requires of me as a self conscious being.
Ethics is beyond pain and pleasure. I see it as a matter of computational efficiency and focus.