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Mumias Sugar huge demand
dunkang
#1461 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:25:53 AM
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streetwise wrote:
For one with money that has no immeduiate use this can be a kill.
Imagine 100K shares as 2 bob. And for argument sake the price goes to 10 Bob.

To jorg your mind , remember Unga at 12 bob and now 45 bob

I disagree. Not Mumias. Labda kwengine.
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streetwise
#1462 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:26:35 AM
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Hapana , at the casino you are guaranteed to lose 100%. Tell me any one who made money in the casino and I will tell you 100 who have made money at the stock market including Mumias
mzitoaggrey
#1463 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:43:50 AM
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What impact will the government's move to write off debts owed to sugar millers to the tune on 35 billion have on the sugar sector?
Njung'e
#1464 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 12:32:56 PM
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mzitoaggrey wrote:
What impact will the government's move to write off debts owed to sugar millers to the tune on 35 billion have on the sugar sector?


That will attract investors when it comes to privatizing. Overall, the various strategic investors to be picked will determine the fate of many mills. I must say that , as a country, we must avoid such bodies as ISGEC. Asian sugar industry and especially Indian, is nothing but filth and junk. let's invite the very best such as Suedzucker , Cosan , Louis Dreyfus or Wilmar amongst other.Such should impact on the efficiencies of our mills.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
HaMaina
#1465 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:00:30 PM
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Any news on the test Run and resumption of operations?
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technician
#1466 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:25:57 PM
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streetwise wrote:
For one with money that has no immeduiate use this can be a kill.
Imagine 100K shares as 2 bob. And for argument sake the price goes to 10 Bob.

To jorg your mind , remember Unga at 12 bob and now 45 bob


You have read my mind, imagine now 200K shares at 2 and price goes to 10 or 20 bob.

There is no risk on this one, after all there is bailout.
Pesa Nane
#1467 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:05:44 PM
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technician wrote:
streetwise wrote:
For one with money that has no immeduiate use this can be a kill.
Imagine 100K shares as 2 bob. And for argument sake the price goes to 10 Bob.

To jorg your mind , remember Unga at 12 bob and now 45 bob


You have read my mind, imagine now 200K shares at 2 and price goes to 10 or 20 bob.

There is no risk on this one, after all there is bailout.

That's a familiar song! Heard it just before being shafted with the Ksh. 49.50 rights issues. Yes, Ksh. 49.50 per mumias sugar ordinary stock.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
VituVingiSana
#1468 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:28:46 PM
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streetwise wrote:
For one with money that has no immeduiate use this can be a kill.
Imagine 100K shares as 2 bob. And for argument sake the price goes to 10 Bob.

To jorg your mind , remember Unga at 12 bob and now 45 bob

Unga has consistently made a profit since 2011. It has valuable land, a brand name and even though its products are pricier (by 5-10%) many buy them because of the quality. Pays a dividend.
Compare to Mumias. The product is often missing, they have lots of debt, the brand value has been diminished and the price differential vs Lugazi is huge. It can't pay a dividend for a few years until the Revenue Reserves are positive.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#1469 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:30:52 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
mzitoaggrey wrote:
What impact will the government's move to write off debts owed to sugar millers to the tune on 35 billion have on the sugar sector?


That will attract investors when it comes to privatizing. Overall, the various strategic investors to be picked will determine the fate of many mills. I must say that , as a country, we must avoid such bodies as ISGEC. Asian sugar industry and especially Indian, is nothing but filth and junk. let's invite the very best such as Suedzucker , Cosan , Louis Dreyfus or Wilmar amongst other.Such should impact on the efficiencies of our mills.

Omnicane of Mauritius has partnered with the KUSCOL to revive Ramisi. I wonder how they are doing.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
technician
#1470 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:20:28 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
technician wrote:
streetwise wrote:
For one with money that has no immeduiate use this can be a kill.
Imagine 100K shares as 2 bob. And for argument sake the price goes to 10 Bob.

To jorg your mind , remember Unga at 12 bob and now 45 bob


You have read my mind, imagine now 200K shares at 2 and price goes to 10 or 20 bob.

There is no risk on this one, after all there is bailout.

That's a familiar song! Heard it just before being shafted with the Ksh. 49.50 rights issues. Yes, Ksh. 49.50 per mumias sugar ordinary stock.



MSC was risky for those who bought at 49.50

They bought high and they are now selling low

Those are the investors that took a risk

There is no risk for those buying now when it is low
sparkly
#1471 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:33:02 PM
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technician wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
technician wrote:
streetwise wrote:
For one with money that has no immeduiate use this can be a kill.
Imagine 100K shares as 2 bob. And for argument sake the price goes to 10 Bob.

To jorg your mind , remember Unga at 12 bob and now 45 bob


You have read my mind, imagine now 200K shares at 2 and price goes to 10 or 20 bob.

There is no risk on this one, after all there is bailout.

That's a familiar song! Heard it just before being shafted with the Ksh. 49.50 rights issues. Yes, Ksh. 49.50 per mumias sugar ordinary stock.



MSC was risky for those who bought at 49.50

They bought high and they are now selling low

Those are the investors that took a risk

There is no risk for those buying now when it is low

For that price, Home Afrika is a better buy.
Life is short. Live passionately.
technician
#1472 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 7:17:38 PM
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sparkly wrote:

For that price, Home Afrika is a better buy.


I agree with you, but I have to choose one and because MSC was at this lower price first the choice had been determined by the market

At Home Afrika AGM, they said they will start to sell their houses this year and profits will be reflected in their books of accounts next year, I am hoping for the bus of below 3 for Home Africa waits for me until that time.


HaMaina
#1473 Posted : Wednesday, August 26, 2015 8:14:29 AM
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technician wrote:
sparkly wrote:

For that price, Home Afrika is a better buy.


I agree with you, but I have to choose one and because MSC was at this lower price first the choice had been determined by the market

At Home Afrika AGM, they said they will start to sell their houses this year and profits will be reflected in their books of accounts next year, I am hoping for the bus of below 3 for Home Africa waits for me until that time.




Not that I know, but just asking what are you basing your high hopes on Home Africa on? This is a company whose books have only come into the public domain in the past year or so. I think I would spent alot more time on a company like Eveready maybe it might actually become ready one day. And at least I have a breakdown on progresses and failures in their past records.
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
HaMaina
#1474 Posted : Wednesday, August 26, 2015 10:08:03 AM
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President Museveni at an Auction. He makes my day.

http://www.kenyan-post.c...la-odingas-portrait.html
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
technician
#1475 Posted : Wednesday, August 26, 2015 7:02:13 PM
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HaMaina wrote:
technician wrote:
sparkly wrote:

For that price, Home Afrika is a better buy.


I agree with you, but I have to choose one and because MSC was at this lower price first the choice had been determined by the market

At Home Afrika AGM, they said they will start to sell their houses this year and profits will be reflected in their books of accounts next year, I am hoping for the bus of below 3 for Home Africa waits for me until that time.




Not that I know, but just asking what are you basing your high hopes on Home Africa on? This is a company whose books have only come into the public domain in the past year or so. I think I would spent alot more time on a company like Eveready maybe it might actually become ready one day. And at least I have a breakdown on progresses and failures in their past records.


Home Afrika has alot of capital that was put in by the investors that bought the IPO, they put in 10 billion shillings and now the company is valued at 1 billion, according to its share price, this share is a bargain at the price it is at.

The company has assets worth more than 10 billion in houses it is building. What about the time these houses get sold and the company starts to make a profit. All these houses have already been booked and the buyers have paid deposits and the full amount to be paid once the houses are completed.


http://www.homeafrika.com/gallery/
HaMaina
#1476 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 10:16:47 AM
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technician wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
technician wrote:
sparkly wrote:

For that price, Home Afrika is a better buy.


I agree with you, but I have to choose one and because MSC was at this lower price first the choice had been determined by the market

At Home Afrika AGM, they said they will start to sell their houses this year and profits will be reflected in their books of accounts next year, I am hoping for the bus of below 3 for Home Africa waits for me until that time.




Not that I know, but just asking what are you basing your high hopes on Home Africa on? This is a company whose books have only come into the public domain in the past year or so. I think I would spent alot more time on a company like Eveready maybe it might actually become ready one day. And at least I have a breakdown on progresses and failures in their past records.


Home Afrika has alot of capital that was put in by the investors that bought the IPO, they put in 10 billion shillings and now the company is valued at 1 billion, according to its share price, this share is a bargain at the price it is at.

The company has assets worth more than 10 billion in houses it is building. What about the time these houses get sold and the company starts to make a profit. All these houses have already been booked and the buyers have paid deposits and the full amount to be paid once the houses are completed.


http://www.homeafrika.com/gallery/


All the best in this enterprise, personally I would rather put my money in quil eggs, at least some people still believe the help in erec.... disfuction.
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
HaMaina
#1477 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 10:37:51 AM
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Interesting Read By SOLOMON CHEKWANDA

http://businesstoday.co....d-sign-sugar-deal-uganda
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
HaMaina
#1478 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 12:16:17 PM
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In the News, I am yet to meet anyone who can comfortably say they are in business but they don't have any debt to suppliers, or as he puts it “It is normal for businesses to write
to one another but Spectre’s commercial agreement with the miller did not have
any credit facility attached to it
,” he said. -


Spectre refutes it owes Mumias Sh33m.


http://www.the-star.co.k...es-it-owes-mumias-sh33m
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“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
technician
#1479 Posted : Saturday, August 29, 2015 6:25:24 AM
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HaMaina wrote:
technician wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
technician wrote:
sparkly wrote:

For that price, Home Afrika is a better buy.


I agree with you, but I have to choose one and because MSC was at this lower price first the choice had been determined by the market

At Home Afrika AGM, they said they will start to sell their houses this year and profits will be reflected in their books of accounts next year, I am hoping for the bus of below 3 for Home Africa waits for me until that time.




Not that I know, but just asking what are you basing your high hopes on Home Africa on? This is a company whose books have only come into the public domain in the past year or so. I think I would spent alot more time on a company like Eveready maybe it might actually become ready one day. And at least I have a breakdown on progresses and failures in their past records.


Home Afrika has alot of capital that was put in by the investors that bought the IPO, they put in 10 billion shillings and now the company is valued at 1 billion, according to its share price, this share is a bargain at the price it is at.

The company has assets worth more than 10 billion in houses it is building. What about the time these houses get sold and the company starts to make a profit. All these houses have already been booked and the buyers have paid deposits and the full amount to be paid once the houses are completed.


http://www.homeafrika.com/gallery/


All the best in this enterprise, personally I would rather put my money in quil eggs, at least some people still believe the help in erec.... disfuction.


So which stock are you putting your money on?
streetwise
#1480 Posted : Saturday, August 29, 2015 1:34:38 PM
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Right now with teh NSE at a loss of 19% , all of them. This is the time when analysts are not useful, just buy and buy. By Dec you can make the 19%
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