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2015 world athletics championships Beijing
McReggae
#81 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:43:04 AM
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masukuma wrote:
must say.... it feels nice to be Kenyan this year! by the way.... Eunice Sum and Co. wanakimbia lini?


Sum will be on the semi final today, Asbel Kiprop and co will do their 1500M SF tomorrow. I still expect a minimum of two Gold medals. Kenya will be the world champions. The maximum Gold's Jamaica may get in my opinion is 6, we are already their and are superior in the other medals count.
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masukuma
#82 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:53:03 AM
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McReggae wrote:
masukuma wrote:
must say.... it feels nice to be Kenyan this year! by the way.... Eunice Sum and Co. wanakimbia lini?


Sum will be on the semi final today, Asbel Kiprop and co will do their 1500M SF tomorrow. I still expect a minimum of two Gold medals. Kenya will be the world champions. The maximum Gold's Jamaica may get in my opinion is 6, we are already their and are superior in the other medals count.

where is Australia , russian and china? kumbe swiming and gymnastics huwa zinasaidia watu hivyo?
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masukuma
#83 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:55:44 AM
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Alba wrote:
keraka wrote:
Shak wrote:
Two of our athletes caught doping. Hope all the winners are clean
All the winners are clean.Its sweet victory n corporate sponsorships should be directed at this and Malkia strikers and stop wasting funds in football as in comparative advantage talk.


But Malkia strikers have lost all their matches at the ongoing world cup.

Anyway if you want succesful sports teams, then throw money at grassroots and youth levels. Don't concentrate all the money at the top.

call me when football gets to that level hata kama ni kucharazwa zote! hata round 2 qualifications tumewahi fika of late? I remember siku za fabish tulifika once...
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McReggae
#84 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 10:00:21 AM
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masukuma wrote:
McReggae wrote:
masukuma wrote:
must say.... it feels nice to be Kenyan this year! by the way.... Eunice Sum and Co. wanakimbia lini?


Sum will be on the semi final today, Asbel Kiprop and co will do their 1500M SF tomorrow. I still expect a minimum of two Gold medals. Kenya will be the world champions. The maximum Gold's Jamaica may get in my opinion is 6, we are already their and are superior in the other medals count.

where is Australia , russian and china? kumbe swiming and gymnastics huwa zinasaidia watu hivyo?


Yeah, they thrive in those funny field events!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
nakujua
#85 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 2:05:23 PM
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Alba wrote:
nakujua wrote:

at least they qualified for the world cup, corporate sponsorship is not involved at the grassroots - that's the work of the federations, the companies come in when the teams are well exposed to reap max benefits and at the same time benefiting the team especially financially.


I believe you are mistaken on this. Do you remember Copa Coca Cola and Safaricom sakata ball?

These were tournaments that involved youth at the grassroots and unearthed a lot of talent. The likes of Johana Omollo who is now based in Belgium was unearthed in sakata ball.

Its a model that could have also been adopted to other sports like basketball and volleyball.

But Nyamweya ruined it by demanding kitu kidogo from Safaricom

Those had escaped me, lakini they are not sustainable because they are mostly csr (woishee) projects. smile

Volleyball seems to be doing ok without those events, we can't even qualify for afcon despite all the cash dumped into football.

Lakini let me not veer away from the current topic, our athletes are doing great job.
nakujua
#86 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 2:07:35 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Alba wrote:
keraka wrote:
Shak wrote:
Two of our athletes caught doping. Hope all the winners are clean
All the winners are clean.Its sweet victory n corporate sponsorships should be directed at this and Malkia strikers and stop wasting funds in football as in comparative advantage talk.


But Malkia strikers have lost all their matches at the ongoing world cup.

Anyway if you want succesful sports teams, then throw money at grassroots and youth levels. Don't concentrate all the money at the top.

call me when football gets to that level hata kama ni kucharazwa zote! hata round 2 qualifications tumewahi fika of late? I remember siku za fabish tulifika once...

wacha world cup, we are unable to compete hata in the region.
Alba
#87 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 3:26:41 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Alba wrote:
keraka wrote:
Shak wrote:
Two of our athletes caught doping. Hope all the winners are clean
All the winners are clean.Its sweet victory n corporate sponsorships should be directed at this and Malkia strikers and stop wasting funds in football as in comparative advantage talk.


But Malkia strikers have lost all their matches at the ongoing world cup.

Anyway if you want succesful sports teams, then throw money at grassroots and youth levels. Don't concentrate all the money at the top.

call me when football gets to that level hata kama ni kucharazwa zote! hata round 2 qualifications tumewahi fika of late? I remember siku za fabish tulifika once...


OK I will give you a call.

Anyway I think you missed the point. For Kenya football to excel, we need to focus on grassroots and youth development.

Kenya is one of the last vestiges where youth development is completely non-existent in virtually all team sports.

Note: Kenya thrives in volleyball not because Kenya players are better or because we have good organization. Kenya volleyball thrives precisely because it is taken more seriously at grassroots level than in most African countries.

The culture of school volleyball is taken very seriously especially at schools in western province. Thats why I am saying we must build from grassroots and youth, instead of pouring money at the top
Alba
#88 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 3:34:43 PM
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nakujua wrote:

Those had escaped me, lakini they are not sustainable because they are mostly csr (woishee) projects. smile

Volleyball seems to be doing ok without those events, we can't even qualify for afcon despite all the cash dumped into football.

Lakini let me not veer away from the current topic, our athletes are doing great job.


Again you & Masukuma seem not to be aware of why Kenya dominates African volleyball.

Volleyball does well because at school level, volleyball is taken more seriously in Kenya than it is in most African countries. Schools like Mukumu, Malava, Lugulu etc have for the last 40 years had very serious volleyball programs where talented players are recruited specifically to play volleyball. Also it just so happens that these schools have decent coaches who can mould young players.

Grassroots tournaments are sustainable if well organized. In fact grassroots teams like Kariobangi Sharks and Jericho All stars are bigger crowd pullers than KPL teams like Sofapaka and Tusker and KCB.

If you have ever been to any of these grassroots tournaments you will be amazed at the passion that fans have for their neighbourhood teams.

If well organized, such tournaments can even get television contracts. There is a ready built in fan base unlike KPL which is full of teams like Stima and posta that have no fan base.

Thats why Safaricom poured so much money into sakata ball. It gave them very good publicty. Crowds were large and public interest was very high.

There is another grassroots tournament called extreme super 8 sponsored by businessman Hussein Mohamed. The total prize money is ksh 1.4 million.

With regard to money being dumped on football, it is being dumped in the wrong place. Money should be pumped into youth development and grassroots not to FKF where Nyamweya can siphon it into his bank account.
masukuma
#89 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 4:05:48 PM
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freiks
#90 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 5:18:27 PM
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