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Pesa Nane
#141 Posted : Friday, August 21, 2015 10:07:04 AM
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A must read. DN, 18 AUG 15

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By JAINDI KISERO
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Why are we stoking a trade war with our largest trading partner? The noisy politicking over sugar imports from Uganda has the potential of damaging a system of co-operation which citizens of the two countries have painstakingly developed over years.

Indeed, statistics on trade balances between the two countries only show you a small picture of the level of co-operation.

Today, the ordinary middle-class person in Kampala is most likely to shop at Nakumatt, Uchumi or Tuskys, or deposit his money at the Kampala branch of the Kenya Commercial Bank, Equity Bank, or Commercial Bank of Africa, as well as insure his business with UAP.

Half of the 18 companies listed on the Uganda Securities Exchange are Kenyan.

Yet despite the fact that Kenyans hold high-profile jobs in Kampala’s corporate sector, especially in areas such as investment banking, insurance, marketing and ICT, resentment about domination by Kenyans is very mute, if any.

As for work permits, the regime in Uganda is very liberal. You cannot say the same of our other neighbour where a Kenyan working even on a short consultancy contract will not last for a month without being summoned for an interview.

Indeed, integration between Kenya and Uganda is at a level beyond personal relations between their leaderships.

Nor can this phenomenon be credited to the work of some bureaucrat sitting on an armchair in a carpeted office in Arusha.

It is about the attitudes of people of the two countries. Which begs the question: do we, really, want to squander and sacrifice this intangible asset developed by the citizens of the two countries over a mere 80,000 tonnes of sugar?

Our leaders are too preoccupied with short-term political calculations and risk losing sight of the benefits of co-operation between the two countries.

Mark you, the eight sugar milling plants in that country, at the very best, can only export 80,000 tonnes to Kenya in a year. We import in excess of 350,000 tonnes of sugar every year.

There are several myths being perpetuated by the political class which need to be exploded.

First, that Uganda sugar cannot come into the country without the permission of the Kenya Government.

The truth is that under the Customs Union of the East African Community, sugar from Uganda enjoys full access into Kenya.

Kenya and Uganda are also members of Comesa and Uganda sugar can, therefore, access our markets on Comesa terms. But importers must pay VAT, a Sugar Development Levy, and you need a permit from the Kenya Sugar Directorate.

Still, the point must be made that these are non-tariff barriers which infringe on free trade principles agreed upon under both the EAC and Comesa protocols.

The second myth is the following: That imports from Uganda are the reason the sugar industry in western Kenya is in dire straits.

If you look at the statistics on sugar imports between January and July, you will find that the largest quantities came from Zambia.

As a matter of fact, countries like Malawi. Swaziland, Madagascar and Zambia are bigger players here. The opposition to imports from Uganda is a complete red herring.

The third myth: If you stop sugar imports, the industry in Kenya will return to profitability.

Wrong, because the problem of the sugar industry in Western Kenya is basically a result of State neglect, illustrated by years of chronic under-capitalisation of State-owned sugar firms, mismanagement, low capacity utilisation rates by millers, corrupt outgrower sugar companies, poor crop varieties and delays in paying farmers.

The fourth myth: That unlike Uganda, the sugar industry is inefficient because it is State controlled. Not true because out of 12 mills, only four are state-owned.

West Kenya, Butali, Sukari, Trans Mara, Soin and Kwale are owned by private individuals and Mumias only partly owned by the State.

My parting shot: As long as the ex-factory prices by Ugandan millers remain much cheaper than what the millers in Kenya are charging, Ugandan sugar imports will keep flowing even if you place military tanks on the whole border between the two countries.

jkisero@ke.nationmedia.com. Twitter: @jaindikisero
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streetwise
#142 Posted : Friday, August 21, 2015 10:13:06 AM
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Actually there is no need for noise. Especially that Kenya is actually reducing the amount of power we purcahse fro UG. When UG catches the moves were are making they will slaughter us.
HaMaina
#143 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 10:17:30 AM
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Pole sana: YOU ARE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF. I dont think going to courts will solve your problems.

Sweet Sour Sugar deal continues to stoke the war of words between Ruto & Raila

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OcqWZOUTck
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
Njung'e
#144 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 10:47:21 AM
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[quote=HaMaina]Pole sana: YOU ARE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF. I dont think going to courts will solve your problems.

Sweet Sour Sugar deal continues to stoke the war of words between Ruto & Raila

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OcqWZOUTck[/quote]

Mr Odinga’s threat to go to court came as it emerged that a firm with which his family is associated, Spectre International, was among 13 companies that Mumias had instructed its lawyers to recover millions of shillings from.

Gakoi Maina & Co Advocates wrote to Spectre last October asking for Sh33,960,797, which it described as a “long standing debt”.


Let him go to court where he will be exposed proper.
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HaMaina
#145 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 10:47:49 AM
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Another link on the same.
http://www.nation.co.ke/...6/-/9b7pkl/-/index.html

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http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Mumias-out-to-recover-Sh241m/-/1056/2774576/-/9b7pkl/-/index.html
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Mumias Debtors
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
HaMaina
#146 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 4:33:51 PM
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Mumias Debt Breakdown

http://www.kenyan-post.c...t-raila-odinga-owes.html
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
streetwise
#147 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 4:48:01 PM
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so actually as MSC stuggles there those who have thier money and won't pay.

2xx Million owed can have paid almost 50% of the farmers debt.

Guys pay-up and move on.
Othelo
#148 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 4:55:47 PM
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How come there has been no winding up proceedings as threatened in the letter?

20% of outstanding amount..... aish lawyers make free money smile
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streetwise
#149 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 5:12:44 PM
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20% is very high. Or are they saying the money is lost anyway.
mawinder
#150 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 5:47:48 PM
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Othelo wrote:
How come there has been no winding up proceedings as threatened in the letter?

20% of outstanding amount..... aish lawyers make free money smile

That's way above what is stipulated in the Advocates Remuneration Order.
Gathige
#151 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 10:37:52 PM
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For those with time, Google Kenana.com. This company in Sudan produces 400,000 Metric tones of sugar per day, from production of 26,000 tones of cane- the highest production capacity in the world- on a combined 100,000 acres, with 90% being for domestic consumption. It's such an integrated farming enterprise, mechanized system and with a myriad of interrelated industries, it exemplies best sugar farming practices. Lesson: small holder jembe na panga farming can never be competitive in this day and age.
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