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murchr
#41 Posted : Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:12:09 PM
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alma wrote:
Why the passion murchr. Kweli you are the one who asked that the paper go ndigital?

Your vendor is a good business man, not everyone wants to grow up to become a vendor.

What you are forgetting is one thing. The toughest online business is subscriptions. It is the most profitable but the toughest. Trust me, even the guys who have it now free from safcom will dump them the moment they learn about subscription.

As for the dispora guys, be honest, didn't your paper have the same version online? How many subscriptions did it get. I know coz I tried it, saw subscription and dumped it.

The print business has always been sustained by advertising. That has not changed. Even internet business is sustained by advertising. But for me to subscribe, you have to have something I really want.

Print will survive because entrepreneurs will have information that their niche wants. do you read parents magazine online or on print? Can you read a fashion magazine online or on print? Which is the better experience.

I say again, the death of print was reported prematurely and highly exaggerated. It is alive and well. What is dying are state controlled media and power brokers who used to sell information.


Alma, you need to travel then you'll realize that gazeti is as good as Kamwana put it. Thats the reality in some parts of the world. The newspaper is placed outside your home for free why because no one would buy it. Let me give you some homework on demographics

1 Who buys the newspaper? What age group?

2. Among those who buy how many are in the ages of 20s and 30s?

3 How many in this age group peruse the newspaper in the office or at the vendor stand (for free)?

4 Dont we almost all the so called readers of the e-newspaper read it for free online? How many after perusing nation.co.ke have gone back to buy the paper?

I think the approach that nation takes will make the difference. I have subscribed to the economist, FT etc because i have an interest so those who have an interest Nation will do it. There's another (i think app) called gazetti daily...that i've been using to read/peruse the WHOLE paper online. And its quite popular

The way I see the newspaper evolving is...we will not have to wait to read yesterday's news today. The world has evolved to a more instant-we-want-it-now world. This is because we live in the world of twitter/facebook/instagram where communication is delivered as it happens. Those who fail to move with the change will definitely become irrelevant.

Lastly, when Steve Jobs unveiled the first Ipad...everyone told him that we dont need it because we have laptops.....boy we'rent they wrong. Look at Blackberry today.
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alma
#42 Posted : Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:21:36 PM
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Guys said the birth of the ebook will kill the book. The book is still going strong.

Print isn't going soon. This has been there since the first lecture I got some 12 yrs ago somewhere. I was also completely in your side at that time.

Now I know better. Any business that wants to eliminate the print version right now in the hope of a bigger future will be surprised to find that they will die of other reasons. They'll be expecting to die from AID's yet die from a common cold.

Print will be here through my lifetime.

Murchr, there are thousands of apps daily that claim they will change our lives forever. They don't. Changing behavior is a once in a lifetime experience. It happens in a generation and there's only one opportunity to do so.

We shall be expecting to use mobile phones and devices and some crazy guy comes up with technology that allows us to see what other people are thinking.

By the way, I'm talking as someone who's never opened a newspaper for close to 8 years now.

Human touch is a very powerful emotion. That is one of the reasons why Amazon as good as they are cannot hope to beat Walmart. We still want to touch what we read and will pay a premium for it.
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#43 Posted : Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:56:11 PM
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alma wrote:
Guys said the birth of the ebook will kill the book. The book is still going strong.

Print isn't going soon. This has been there since the first lecture I got some 12 yrs ago somewhere. I was also completely in your side at that time.

Now I know better. Any business that wants to eliminate the print version right now in the hope of a bigger future will be surprised to find that they will die of other reasons. They'll be expecting to die from AID's yet die from a common cold.

Print will be here through my lifetime.

Murchr, there are thousands of apps daily that claim they will change our lives forever. They don't. Changing behavior is a once in a lifetime experience. It happens in a generation and there's only one opportunity to do so.

We shall be expecting to use mobile phones and devices and some crazy guy comes up with technology that allows us to see what other people are thinking.

By the way, I'm talking as someone who's never opened a newspaper for close to 8 years now.

Human touch is a very powerful emotion. That is one of the reasons why Amazon as good as they are cannot hope to beat Walmart. We still want to touch what we read and will pay a premium for it.


Stop comparing apples to chilli. A good comparison would be Amazon and Best buy. Be the judge. On e-books and books.....there's some prestige that comes with reading a book...especially one that is hard-covered and really well glossed, I am a victim to that too...nothing beats the smell of a new book but my Ipad is also as valuable...am not about to get 4 copies of a paper called a newspaper everyday (with obsolete news) leave alone those mags. There's a big difference.

But am following a former sch mate of mine called Tony Ndungu. The man is revolutionalizing how we use an e-reader
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#44 Posted : Monday, December 16, 2013 8:18:05 AM
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Data is about 40mb but there are guys who have free wifi everyday.


This free download is only working if yu r on safaricom data. WiFi is not working even when the WiFi provider is safcom. But maybe the one you pay for shall work across board.
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#45 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 7:53:00 AM
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murchr wrote:
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Depends on the location.If the vendor has ample space a fruit stand might supplement his income.If he has access to electricity natural fresh juices can be blended on the spot.This is a market not fully explored though the awareness and demand for healthy products is up.

When it comes to newspapers and changes in media uptake Gerd Leonhard is an individual who might be of interest.Even the e-paper might eventually be challenged by the same platform they're utilizing.A new type of newspaper that is compiled on the go might arise i.e. you buy the articles from the journalists you want.


I can see that....The same way one can buy singles on I-Tunes...


For pricing purposes I'd say more of a playlist.


This startup may have found the answer for getting people to pay for journalism online

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Blendle is based in the Netherlands. Its website and app lets readers make micropayments for individual articles from major publishers, rather than having to commit to monthly or annual subscriptions. Users register for Blendle and put in their credit card details just once at the beginning of the process, where they create a newsfeed of stories about the topics they are interested in. When they click on a headline, the app/website takes a small payment. And — perhaps the most intriguing part of the whole offer — if readers don't like an article they can get an instant refund, as long as they provide feedback.


Journalism needs an iTunes
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#46 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2015 9:45:51 AM
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Morning, does anyone know where I can get PDFs of past Standard and Nation papers, about 6 months worth?
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#47 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2015 10:07:49 AM
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My take on journalism is - people will not pay for "news" for very long since news is something that gets to us when we are just doing our kawaida things during the day... however OPINION PIECES and ANALYSIS of what news means in a certain context is definitely something that makes me buy news papers. I don't read the front page news - why? I knew about the story yesterday when it broke but I would like to know what Macharia Gaitho things of it or what the Grand Mullah is thinking about it. I buy newspapers not for objectivity but rather subjectivity. Going forward journalists with opinions will be the determining factor not just reporting facts.
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#48 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2015 10:56:15 AM
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masukuma wrote:
My take on journalism is - people will not pay for "news" for very long since news is something that gets to us when we are just doing our kawaida things during the day... however OPINION PIECES and ANALYSIS of what news means in a certain context is definitely something that makes me buy news papers. I don't read the front page news - why? I knew about the story yesterday when it broke but I would like to know what Macharia Gaitho things of it or what the Grand Mullah is thinking about it. I buy newspapers not for objectivity but rather subjectivity. Going forward journalists with opinions will be the determining factor not just reporting facts.

Naona tunafanana but I think we are a minority. Not many want to read opinion pieces
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#49 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2015 11:49:34 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
My take on journalism is - people will not pay for "news" for very long since news is something that gets to us when we are just doing our kawaida things during the day... however OPINION PIECES and ANALYSIS of what news means in a certain context is definitely something that makes me buy news papers. I don't read the front page news - why? I knew about the story yesterday when it broke but I would like to know what Macharia Gaitho things of it or what the Grand Mullah is thinking about it. I buy newspapers not for objectivity but rather subjectivity. Going forward journalists with opinions will be the determining factor not just reporting facts.

Naona tunafanana but I think we are a minority. Not many want to read opinion pieces

they may not know it but a soon as they get 'plugged in'... they will realize that the only value news papers add are opinion pieces. think about it if you are on twitter you get notified that X,Y and Z are tweeting about ABC and you check it out. The next day that will show up in an orderly manner kwa gazetti when it's like 24hours late.
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#50 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2015 12:30:55 AM
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grolut wrote:
Morning, does anyone know where I can get PDFs of past Standard and Nation papers, about 6 months worth?


That's close to 15GB of data. Pray Pray
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#51 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:50:18 AM
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Outvestor wrote:
grolut wrote:
Morning, does anyone know where I can get PDFs of past Standard and Nation papers, about 6 months worth?


That's close to 15GB of data. Pray Pray
Despair not. Give me your email address.


No problem, you can reach me at grolut2013[at]gmail.com
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#52 Posted : Friday, August 21, 2015 3:40:34 PM
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Incase any is person is interested in accessing the following papers by 9.00AM every morning.

DailyNation
Standard
Business Daily
Taifa Leo
Weelkly East African

In PDf - full.

At a small negligible fee let me know

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#53 Posted : Friday, August 21, 2015 3:51:35 PM
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faa wrote:
Incase any is person is interested in accessing the following papers by 9.00AM every morning.

DailyNation
Standard
Business Daily
Taifa Leo
Weelkly East African

In PDf - full.

At a small negligible fee let me know


So how do we let you know?
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#54 Posted : Friday, August 21, 2015 5:27:30 PM
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Othelo wrote:
faa wrote:
Incase any person is interested in accessing the following papers by 9.00AM every morning.

DailyNation
Standard
Business Daily
Taifa Leo
Weelkly East African

In PDf - full.

At a small negligible fee let me know


So how do we let you know?



Send an email to pope-2009@live.com stating the email address you would like to use in receiving the papers.

The charges are 2500 per year to access the following papers unlimited.

Daily Nation,Taifa Leo,Standard,Eastafrican and Business Daily.

The papers are already downloaded in PDF format ,as such you dont have to spend on data,provided you have pdf viewer ,be it on your phone, tablet or computer.

Moreover, you will have unlimited to access previous papers stating from Jan 1st 2014.
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#55 Posted : Friday, August 21, 2015 11:48:05 PM
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do the people give out free pdf copies for their daily newspapers.
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#56 Posted : Saturday, May 07, 2016 9:37:21 PM
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