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MaichBlack
#121 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:15:05 PM
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Check out the balance in this bank account!!!

Do you need to be a genius???

And that is just one account!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
fabrego
#122 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 4:07:33 PM
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We can blame the cartels or former CEOs but two things are clear.
Poor management & Inefficient operations- The previous managements of Mumias have not been able to turn Mumias into an efficient sugar miller. High operational costs and cheap imported sugar have brought the firm to its knees.
In this day and age, firms that produce above average quality at the cheapest price will eventually take over the global market.
Mumias might get a bailout but that cash will have to be paid back(debt).
As an investor why invest cash in a business that cant produce their main product in a profitable way. We can hope for a turnaround but have we forgotten the rights issue a few years ago. Investors are still licking their wounds.
HaMaina
#123 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 4:19:15 PM
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fabrego wrote:
We can blame the cartels or former CEOs but two things are clear.
Poor management & Inefficient operations- The previous managements of Mumias have not been able to turn Mumias into an efficient sugar miller. High operational costs and cheap imported sugar have brought the firm to its knees.
In this day and age, firms that produce above average quality at the cheapest price will eventually take over the global market.
Mumias might get a bailout but that cash will have to be paid back(debt).
As an investor why invest cash in a business that cant produce their main product in a profitable way. We can hope for a turnaround but have we forgotten the rights issue a few years ago. Investors are still licking their wounds.


Memory is usually not a strong point, many people tend to behave like goats to the slaughter, its just another valentines day full of love, laughter and lots of caring and togetherness. What happened to others happened to them and that was their misfortune.

“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
enyands
#124 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 5:17:45 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Check out the balance in this bank account!!!

Do you need to be a genius???

And that is just one account!!!

@maichblack it's been a while . You appear and dissappear .so what do you have on your plate today
enyands
#125 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 5:21:13 PM
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enyands wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Check out the balance in this bank account!!!

Do you need to be a genius???

And that is just one account!!!

@maichblack it's been a while . You appear and dissappear .so what do you have on your plate today


Ha ha he is the one of the king cartels politicians I was talking earlier in my thread. One mzungu said one time African leaders feed from us and after they get full then they vomit on our shoes . Trust me he will run for governor hood (if there is English like that ) and he will be elected despite all this scandals . How can a ceo earning maybe 1m a month have 1 billion in his account ...do your math .....
Much Know
#126 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 5:34:18 PM
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The Kenya Chamber of Commerce & Industry and its Uganda counterpart have clarified the "sweet trade deal" was unfortunately "poisoned" (rogwad) by a political murogi uninformed and purely driven jealousy and NOT business acumen at all Shame on you . They have issued a statement on how deal was structured as traders and how it was to proceed. Is this issue a business or political issue? Why politicize everything and make everyone so anxious including the principal stakeholders in the business to worry so much after working very hard to streamline trading relations? How do we stop uninformed people causing so much anxiety in the markets?
A New Kenya
Magnate
#127 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 5:52:50 PM
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In other news troubled Mumias issues a profit warning on their FY expected results.
http://ge.tt/9R7kJPM2/v/0?c
No diagnosis,no pragnosis,no pragnosis no profit......Jesse livermore
dunkang
#128 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 6:54:44 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Check out the balance in this bank account!!!

Do you need to be a genius???

And that is just one account!!!

Next should be Titus Naikuni's bank accounts. Any takers?
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

VituVingiSana
#129 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 7:07:36 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
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Location: Nairobi
dunkang wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Check out the balance in this bank account!!!

Do you need to be a genius???

And that is just one account!!!

Next should be Titus Naikuni's bank accounts. Any takers?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Ask @obiero
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
MaichBlack
#130 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 7:20:17 PM
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Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,460
enyands wrote:
enyands wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Check out the balance in this bank account!!!

Do you need to be a genius???

And that is just one account!!!

@maichblack it's been a while . You appear and dissappear .so what do you have on your plate today


Ha ha he is the one of the king cartels politicians I was talking earlier in my thread. One mzungu said one time African leaders feed from us and after they get full then they vomit on our shoes . Trust me he will run for governor hood (if there is English like that ) and he will be elected despite all this scandals . How can a ceo earning maybe 1m a month have 1 billion in his account ...do your math .....

Only (approx.) three kinds of people would have a billion in their account. And that is only one account and after campaign expenses deductions.

Even "leaders of industries" don't have a billion in cash in their account. People who have made clean billions would rarely have a billion shilling in their accounts. Most of the money is tied up in different ventures and in most cases they have to borrow money because to be a "clean" billionaire, your imagination, creativity, industry, ideas should be way ahead of the cash you hold!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
HaMaina
#131 Posted : Wednesday, August 19, 2015 8:16:13 AM
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Joined: 4/23/2014
Posts: 910
Much Know wrote:
The Kenya Chamber of Commerce & Industry and its Uganda counterpart have clarified the "sweet trade deal" was unfortunately "poisoned" (rogwad) by a political murogi uninformed and purely driven jealousy and NOT business acumen at all Shame on you . They have issued a statement on how deal was structured as traders and how it was to proceed. Is this issue a business or political issue? Why politicize everything and make everyone so anxious including the principal stakeholders in the business to worry so much after working very hard to streamline trading relations? How do we stop uninformed people causing so much anxiety in the markets?


Shooting them or locking them up for life with hard labour tends to work in some countries.
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
HaMaina
#132 Posted : Wednesday, August 19, 2015 8:54:29 AM
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Today's Nation cartoon, tinga tinga is higghh, don't I miss the sweet old days.
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
HaMaina
#133 Posted : Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:03:33 AM
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Isn't this fall due to ongoing maintenance and upgrading work?

Kenya's Mumias Sugar says FY profit to fall more than 25 pct

http://af.reuters.com/ar...s/idAFL5N10T35220150818
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
mzitoaggrey
#134 Posted : Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:29:03 AM
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Mumias woes are purely managerial am confident Errol the new C.E.O should navigate through.
dunkang
#135 Posted : Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:33:33 AM
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Naona wahasiriwa ni wengi mno. Poleni ndugu zangu, maisha ni hivyo hivyo. Leo unapata, kesho unakosa.

I had invested some 200K in Mumias in 2012, but i decided to write that investment off late last year. Mumias is a lost cause.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

HaMaina
#136 Posted : Wednesday, August 19, 2015 12:02:29 PM
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Outdated machinery,Loans,Corruption,unscrupulous politicians, chini ya maji imports, etc,etc This tune has been going on for the past 3 years, we need a new one.Sad{|= Sad{|= Sad{|= Sad{|= Sad{|=
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“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
mzitoaggrey
#137 Posted : Wednesday, August 19, 2015 12:03:11 PM
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Hehehe! wahasiriwa...mmmh not realy wenye haraka ndio wengi...anyhow take heart nyinyi nyote kaa roho ngumu.
HaMaina
#138 Posted : Thursday, August 20, 2015 2:36:03 PM
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Hon Duale makes my day.

ACK Bishop Eliud Wabukala calls for sobriety on the Sugar discussions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmCTjghDKDU
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
HaMaina
#139 Posted : Friday, August 21, 2015 8:19:04 AM
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CORD now goes slow on damning Mumias report

The Coalition for Reforms and Democracy (CORD) may have avoided scoring an own goal in the current sugar crisis after amendments that would have seen Nairobi Governor Evans Kidero prosecuted over the Mumias sugar woes were withdrawn from the House order paper.

http://www.standardmedia...n-damning-mumias-report

Just postponing the inevitable, sooner or later you eventually fall in the trap.
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
streetwise
#140 Posted : Friday, August 21, 2015 8:40:42 AM
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So it is all about protecting individuals.

God protect Kenyans from these unjust men and women. What will they tell God when they finally meet him
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