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¿ wrote:tycho wrote:¿ wrote:tycho wrote:¿ wrote:tycho wrote:@¿, I see that you've put some words in bold, and I guess that these words in bold somehow seek to affirm your belief in the absurd.
But I need to ask you some questions so that I may understand you better. For example, does it mean anything to say that something is 'meaningless'? Or rather, do you mean anything by saying 'meaning'? Your guess is wrong. Meaningless - without meaning, significance, purpose, or value; purposeless; insignificant. If my guess is 'wrong' then there must be a 'correct' guess. Or better still I can ask, 'what do you 'mean' or 'signify' by putting some words in bold? I see. Like the long dead philosophers,his views and methods are based on belief. What do you see? So there's meaning to your action. The meaning is your perception of reliance on belief of a philosopher like those 'long dead'. Only meaning can give meaning to my actions but the meaning you've created for yourself has been noted. When you say only 'meaning' can give 'meanin' to your actions, and that I have created 'meaning'; and you have noted the meaning I have created, you have also CREATED meaning. Haven't you?
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@tycho - It seems you are interested in my beliefs. Quote:In philosophy, "the Absurd" refers to the conflict between the human tendency to seek inherent value and meaning in life and the human inability to find any. In this context absurd does not mean "logically impossible", but rather "humanly impossible". The universe and the human mind do not each separately cause the Absurd, but rather, the Absurd arises by the contradictory nature of the two existing simultaneously. Quote:In absurdist philosophy, the Absurd arises out of the fundamental disharmony between the individual's search for meaning and the meaninglessness of the universe. Quote:The third option is to either construct or adopt a belief structure that provides a practical reprieve from the impossibility of true meaning while never actually rejecting that the system used is itself also meaningless. I believe you want to share your views and beliefs on meaning and existence but you are reluctant because they would be meaningless unless you are declaring you have found meaning and have also found a meaningful way to find it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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¿ wrote:@tycho - It seems you are interested in my beliefs. Quote:In philosophy, "the Absurd" refers to the conflict between the human tendency to seek inherent value and meaning in life and the human inability to find any. In this context absurd does not mean "logically impossible", but rather "humanly impossible". The universe and the human mind do not each separately cause the Absurd, but rather, the Absurd arises by the contradictory nature of the two existing simultaneously. Quote:In absurdist philosophy, the Absurd arises out of the fundamental disharmony between the individual's search for meaning and the meaninglessness of the universe. Quote:The third option is to either construct or adopt a belief structure that provides a practical reprieve from the impossibility of true meaning while never actually rejecting that the system used is itself also meaningless. I believe you want to share your views and beliefs on meaning and existence but you are reluctant because they would be meaningless unless you are declaring you have found meaning and have also found a meaningful way to find it. Is this response another act of creating meaning? You may be right on the meaning you've created. But I have some other meaning in my mind. Now that you agree that you and I have and create meaning, I wish to ask; are there instances where meaning isn't created? Before I forget, does belief exclude meaning in any way?
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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tycho wrote:¿ wrote:@tycho - It seems you are interested in my beliefs. Quote:In philosophy, "the Absurd" refers to the conflict between the human tendency to seek inherent value and meaning in life and the human inability to find any. In this context absurd does not mean "logically impossible", but rather "humanly impossible". The universe and the human mind do not each separately cause the Absurd, but rather, the Absurd arises by the contradictory nature of the two existing simultaneously. Quote:In absurdist philosophy, the Absurd arises out of the fundamental disharmony between the individual's search for meaning and the meaninglessness of the universe. Quote:The third option is to either construct or adopt a belief structure that provides a practical reprieve from the impossibility of true meaning while never actually rejecting that the system used is itself also meaningless. I believe you want to share your views and beliefs on meaning and existence but you are reluctant because they would be meaningless unless you are declaring you have found meaning and have also found a meaningful way to find it. Is this response another act of creating meaning? You may be right on the meaning you've created. But I have some other meaning in my mind. Now that you agree that you and I have and create meaning, I wish to ask; are there instances where meaning isn't created? Before I forget, does belief exclude meaning in any way?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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¿ wrote:tycho wrote:¿ wrote:@tycho - It seems you are interested in my beliefs. Quote:In philosophy, "the Absurd" refers to the conflict between the human tendency to seek inherent value and meaning in life and the human inability to find any. In this context absurd does not mean "logically impossible", but rather "humanly impossible". The universe and the human mind do not each separately cause the Absurd, but rather, the Absurd arises by the contradictory nature of the two existing simultaneously. Quote:In absurdist philosophy, the Absurd arises out of the fundamental disharmony between the individual's search for meaning and the meaninglessness of the universe. Quote:The third option is to either construct or adopt a belief structure that provides a practical reprieve from the impossibility of true meaning while never actually rejecting that the system used is itself also meaningless. I believe you want to share your views and beliefs on meaning and existence but you are reluctant because they would be meaningless unless you are declaring you have found meaning and have also found a meaningful way to find it. Is this response another act of creating meaning? You may be right on the meaning you've created. But I have some other meaning in my mind. Now that you agree that you and I have and create meaning, I wish to ask; are there instances where meaning isn't created? Before I forget, does belief exclude meaning in any way? I see now you're putting a condition of 'finding' meaning.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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How is it possible for one to create meaning, and more still, engage in a reciprocal relationship with another? Maybe what we call 'creation' here is merely a 'finding'. Finding and elaboration.
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1 Corinthians 1:25 - For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength. 
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