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blah blah blah.... Quote:The Mideast Beast (TMB) is a satirical and comedy news site that produces spoof articles about or connected to the entire Middle East for comedic and entertainment purposes. We poke at anyone and everyone equally.
Whatever you read on TMB is totally fictitious and you should not take us seriously in any way, shape, or form. Clear? Good, let’s move on. Oh, and a warning for the faint-hearted, we use lots of ‘colorful adjectives’. Deal with it.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/31/2008 Posts: 1,076
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Deal's implementation now fully rolled out; http://news.yahoo.com/ir...ear-deal-094627967.html
Dunia ni msongamano..
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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Rahatupu wrote:Nandwa wrote:TAZ wrote:Nandwa wrote:I think this was a good move, one that promotes peace in the world.
On this subject I find Netanyahu's stance unreasonable and impracticable.
If he proceeds that way, he risks alienating Israel. How do you expect Netanyahu to support a deal involving people who have vowed to destroy Israel, the Iranian General Mohammad Reza Naqdi recently declared that erasing Israel off the map is non-negotiable. IMO, this deal will definitely strain relations between the Obama administration and one of their key allies. Netanyahu has got to be realistic and cast himself as different from nut cases such as the ayatollahs. Granted the Irans have made it their business to keep shouting death to Israel & US, which is more a sign of frustration and immaturity than anything else. While so chanting the same Iran had to nego with a US led team on matters some of which are very domestic and should otberwise not be open to foreigners leave one a Country they call the great Satan! That by itself should tell us not to take them seriously when they chant death to the great Satan, death to Israel. In any case what better alternatives are possible - war! Israel would rather have a permanent conflict than the deal. Now Saudi is checked.....here the enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. Netanyahu risks isolating IsraelJust as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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Khamenei & Iran should go to hell. When you capture and detain American marines because they strayed into your waters, you are not doing anything to create goodwill. So don't expect the Americans to cooperate. Thats how international politics work. You scratch my back and I scratch yours. If you stab me in the back then I put a bullet in your back.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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This is @TAZ ama parody? You have been missing big time on that Arsenal thread/2016 EPL thread. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/31/2008 Posts: 1,076
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With pressure on the fate of his presidency building rather fast, Trump wants to divert attention by occasion an unnecessary war with Iran. I don't see the rest of the world allowing him to mess a deal that is working fairly well. https://www.yahoo.com/ne...pections-140038864.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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He is trying to save his career. He is facing some corruption charges i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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harrydre wrote:Nandwa wrote:Netanyahu being too hawkish!
Then he is cornered effectively. He is trying to save his career. He is facing some corruption charges And what about him, doesn't he have capability? He has nuclear, Uncle Sam nuclear... But he has the guts to tell others you can't have... And only brain washed people would support this thinking... There are three things contributing to this brains-washing: (1). Deeply believe we are the chosen people, hence we have the right to do whatever we want, (2). The arrogant presents himself as the victim, not only the victim but the only victim around, hence live in peace because we are the victims, (3). Systematic dehumanization of others, e.g. Palestinians, hence live in peace because if they are not human beings like us, then it is not really a question of human rights Is this good? No! It is very corrupting. As long as the world allows them to continue, then why would they want to change? What incentive? Why would they bother?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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He was asked "Does 1srael have Nuclear capabilities and nuclear weapons, yes or no?"... he didn't answer. He was asked if he disclosure matters so much, then what message does he send others if he himself would not confirm...
So this is clearly shamba la wanyama kind of scenario... We are human but we are more human than others...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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AlphDoti wrote:harrydre wrote:Nandwa wrote:Netanyahu being too hawkish!
Then he is cornered effectively. He is trying to save his career. He is facing some corruption charges And what about him, doesn't he have capability? He has nuclear, Uncle Sam nuclear... But he has the guts to tell others you can't have... And only brain washed people would support this thinking... There are three things contributing to this brains-washing: (1). Deeply believe we are the chosen people, hence we have the right to do whatever we want, (2). The arrogant presents himself as the victim, not only the victim but the only victim around, hence live in peace because we are the victims, (3). Systematic dehumanization of others, e.g. Palestinians, hence live in peace because if they are not human beings like us, then it is not really a question of human rights Effecting state capture of a global super power helps a lot too. Maybe that is what the Arabs should have done. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Wakanyugi wrote:AlphDoti wrote:harrydre wrote:Nandwa wrote:Netanyahu being too hawkish!
Then he is cornered effectively. He is trying to save his career. He is facing some corruption charges And what about him, doesn't he have capability? He has nuclear, Uncle Sam nuclear... But he has the guts to tell others you can't have... And only brain washed people would support this thinking... There are three things contributing to this brains-washing: (1). Deeply believe we are the chosen people, hence we have the right to do whatever we want, (2). The arrogant presents himself as the victim, not only the victim but the only victim around, hence live in peace because we are the victims, (3). Systematic dehumanization of others, e.g. Palestinians, hence live in peace because if they are not human beings like us, then it is not really a question of human rights Effecting state capture of a global super power helps a lot too. Maybe that is what the Arabs should have done. True, if power is used to resist the oppressor, then that is good. This what Iran is trying to do. This is what Russia has done. This is what China has done. My concern in this case is the issue of Brain washed people, who think no one should resist oppression. They buy the story lines which is meant to give Russia or Iran bad name: as an oppressor. These guys are doing video presentations, using mainstream media etc to sabotage any unity in middle east. But Russia is not enemy of middle east... Iran is not enemy of middle east... So those who think like this have mental walls. Unfortunately, many people today are by far too brainwashed. They live in denial, totally disconnected with reality. If it were possible, I would recommend medication of some sort. Because people who loose touch with reality might be very dangerous to themselves and to the society at large...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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AlphDoti wrote:Nandwa wrote:Sunnis consolidating their base?Quote:Ultra-conservative Saudi Arabia has donated massive funds to Indonesia including to teach Arabic language in schools and universities.
It wants to open more schools in Indonesia and increase scholarships.
Moderates in Indonesia are concerned an Arabic reading of the Koran is leading to a more conservative approach towards Islam.
Mr Alshuaibi said the two nations were working together in the fight against Islamic State terrorists.
@nandwa, is Malaysia, Brunei, Japan, China, and Maldives also sunnis to be consolidated? Or Indonesia is juicy narrative from LAZY, SIMPLISTIC, CLICHED mind meant to mislead many who just peruse from "headline"... Quote:King Salman bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud is in Jakarta from Wednesday as part of a month-long Asia tour that includes Malaysia, Brunei, Japan, China and the Maldives. I clarified it to you here... sparkly wrote:Still waiting for @alphdoti to give his considered comments. @sparky, what is driving this Middle East conflict right now is an issue, which is 40 years old i.e. since around 1979. The Sunnis and Shias is a MYTH. The Truth is about POWER. So it is POLITICS! POLITICS! POLITICS!The unfortunate thing is, people who are supposed to be learned and enlightened always fall for these FALSE FLAGS. Just like how tribal violence are done here locally 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Trumpamba to make a huge announcement! i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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Netanyahu has been itching to strike Iran. He and Trump have paved the way for that to happen. Though Iran is not entirely innocent on some of the issues it is accused of, reports show that they are honouring the Nuclear deal. In that case those other matters that they are accuesed of could be resolved in a better way that what Trump is doing - walking away from the internationally brokered deal that's working. Their military attack on Iran under this circumstances would not find favour with most in the international community. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Nandwa wrote:Netanyahu has been itching to strike Iran.
He and Trump have paved the way for that to happen.
Though Iran is not entirely innocent on some of the issues it is accused of, reports show that they are honouring the Nuclear deal.
In that case those other matters that they are accuesed of could be resolved in a better way that what Trump is doing - walking away from the internationally brokered deal that's working.
Their military attack on Iran under this circumstances would not find favour with most in the international community. @nandwa, is Trump innocent of the nuclear things... Is Netanyahu innocent of nuclear thingi? What about them, don't they also have capability? They have nuclear, Uncle Sam has nuclear... But you have the guts to tell others you can't have... this is what brain washed people are capable of...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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Trump stands alone! Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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It appears that the current US strategy is to weaken Iran for the sake of Israel and to bolster its position globally before the usage of the dollar weakens and a new world order is established. The EU is likely to disintegrate. We are almost certain that Brexit will happen. Britain and America are likely to add forces of separation, ditto Russia and China. In the mid to long term we are in for plenty of drama and probably bloodshed.
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