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Aguytrying
#21 Posted : Thursday, August 06, 2015 2:41:39 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
It's still too early to come up with a buy list! Don't fight the CB. Wait for the CB to calm down and give the green signal otherwise starving in the liquidity drought desert won't be a pleasant thing.


I know it's early, trust me I'm not even close to buying. As a fundie the price points are my triggers. From the looks of things I'll revise many downwards. It helps me think and internalise them. When time to pull the trigger comes I can be more clinical

@Aguy, what @Hisah is saying is you watch the CBK moves, not the prices.As long as CBK shorts the market, stay away, when they get bullish(lower cbr), pull the trigger.


Thanks veterans. When it's time to pull the trigger do sound 🔊 the war cry
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Kahuna
#22 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 11:08:58 AM
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Am starting to see a lot of green on many of the counters. Time to be greedy ?
holycow
#23 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 11:23:26 AM
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Kahuna wrote:
Am starting to see a lot of green on many of the counters. Time to be greedy ?


Banks to be precise.
Aguytrying
#24 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 11:34:20 AM
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holycow wrote:
Kahuna wrote:
Am starting to see a lot of green on many of the counters. Time to be greedy ?


Banks to be precise.


Nooo. I don't think so. These correction are to be expected
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Fyatu
#25 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 11:44:29 AM
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Kahuna wrote:
Am starting to see a lot of green on many of the counters. Time to be greedy ?


No. Time to be fearful.
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
hisah
#26 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 11:54:02 AM
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@aguy between Bamburi and ARM, I prefer the latter. If it sinks to 40s that's a good level to start loading up.

Mpesa bank is bouncing furious after testing sub 14 handle. Financials are also bouncing hard smile This is expected since the nosedive was rapid and the oversold readings got too stretched. They need to reset. Bullish momentum will however start stalling towards 4700 - 5000 level. Don't be surprised when NSE20 tests 4000 handle or lower in the next tanking episode.

Nothing has changed on the econ macros and this will be obvious when the GDP numbers start coming out.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mlennyma
#27 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 12:14:25 PM
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Going by today's market behaviour your price predictions might wait longer for the next wave
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
mlennyma
#28 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 12:17:16 PM
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Kahuna wrote:
Am starting to see a lot of green on many of the counters. Time to be greedy ?

it's long since we witnessed this,however cold I must take cold beersmile
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
mlennyma
#29 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 12:23:10 PM
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On mystocks live equity has done the maximum daily 10%,hfck too,kcb approaching the same
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
holycow
#30 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 1:00:39 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
On mystocks live equity has done the maximum daily 10%,hfck too,kcb approaching the same

Zero supply on HFCK as at 1:00pm.
mlennyma
#31 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 2:23:49 PM
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holycow wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
On mystocks live equity has done the maximum daily 10%,hfck too,kcb approaching the same

Zero supply on HFCK as at 1:00pm.

This looks short lived,market is retreating
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Aguytrying
#32 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 4:39:31 PM
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hisah wrote:
@aguy between Bamburi and ARM, I prefer the latter. If it sinks to 40s that's a good level to start loading up.

Mpesa bank is bouncing furious after testing sub 14 handle. Financials are also bouncing hard smile This is expected since the nosedive was rapid and the oversold readings got too stretched. They need to reset. Bullish momentum will however start stalling towards 4700 - 5000 level. Don't be surprised when NSE20 tests 4000 handle or lower in the next tanking episode.

Nothing has changed on the econ macros and this will be obvious when the GDP numbers start coming out.


These knee jerk reactions don't fool me anymore. ARM is good but I do not like their debt levels/structure. Otherwise great firm and management
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
lochaz-index
#33 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 5:51:36 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Many times we are getting right what to buy,our biggest failure is guessing when to sell.with all the previous market gains many will be left bare handed. the Bird was at our hands but now many find themselves holding only the feathers


This is the saddest thing. I have a solution.
As the share rises say 100% profit, sell 25-50% of you holding. you will have immediatley removed your seed capital. So that in case the share comes back to your original price, what it will be worth at that time is all your profit (if you sold 50%).

Good strategy. If anyone from here is holding feathers, its because they are either value investors or chose to ignore the signs and calls.


Guys are throwing mud at value investors.... I wonder why that is.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
Mukiri
#34 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 7:17:05 PM
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lochaz-index wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Many times we are getting right what to buy,our biggest failure is guessing when to sell.with all the previous market gains many will be left bare handed. the Bird was at our hands but now many find themselves holding only the feathers


This is the saddest thing. I have a solution.
As the share rises say 100% profit, sell 25-50% of you holding. you will have immediatley removed your seed capital. So that in case the share comes back to your original price, what it will be worth at that time is all your profit (if you sold 50%).

Good strategy. If anyone from here is holding feathers, its because they are either value investors or chose to ignore the signs and calls.


Guys are throwing mud at value investors.... I wonder why that is.

d'oh! If you see a white person, chances are that is a mzungu or someone with ash/powder on their face. Is that throwing mad at a mzungu?

Nothing wrong with going in for the long haul; its the stuff Warren Buffet is made of.

Proverbs 19:21
VituVingiSana
#35 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 8:51:14 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Many times we are getting right what to buy,our biggest failure is guessing when to sell.with all the previous market gains many will be left bare handed. the Bird was at our hands but now many find themselves holding only the feathers


This is the saddest thing. I have a solution.
As the share rises say 100% profit, sell 25-50% of you holding. you will have immediatley removed your seed capital. So that in case the share comes back to your original price, what it will be worth at that time is all your profit (if you sold 50%).

Good strategy. If anyone from here is holding feathers, its because they are either value investors or chose to ignore the signs and calls.


Guys are throwing mud at value investors.... I wonder why that is.

d'oh! If you see a white person, chances are that is a mzungu or someone with ash/powder on their face. Is that throwing mad at a mzungu?

Nothing wrong with going in for the long haul; its the stuff Warren Buffet is made of.

Folks laughed at WB when he eschewed the tech bubble. We know who laughed last.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Othelo
#36 Posted : Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:29:01 PM
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My current gambler stocks; Britam, Unga & ARM!!! Make money regardless through volume activity!!!
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
S.Mutaga III
#37 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2015 9:53:10 PM
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My wish list is as follows:
Unga - Any price below 40
Kenol Kobil - Any price below 8.50
Longhorn - Any price below 6.00
All above P/E's are below 7 and the growth rate in profitability of all the three companies since 2013 is tremendous. My Buying spree starts tomorrow if my prices are met.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
nashx
#38 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2015 10:43:26 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
My wish list is as follows:
Unga - Any price below 40
Kenol Kobil - Any price below 8.50
Longhorn - Any price below 6.00
All above P/E's are below 7 and the growth rate in profitability of all the three companies since 2013 is tremendous. My Buying spree starts tomorrow if my prices are met.


@ S.Mutaga III I like the list above...you changed your mind on Kenya Re?
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S.Mutaga III
#39 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2015 10:50:24 PM
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nashx wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
My wish list is as follows:
Unga - Any price below 40
Kenol Kobil - Any price below 8.50
Longhorn - Any price below 6.00
All above P/E's are below 7 and the growth rate in profitability of all the three companies since 2013 is tremendous. My Buying spree starts tomorrow if my prices are met.


@ S.Mutaga III I like the list above...you changed your mind on Kenya Re?

Am done doing business with the government. The final destination for those companies is almost always the same. Check KQ, Mumias, Uchumi etc...they only succeed after being privatized.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
mlennyma
#40 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:06:17 AM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
My wish list is as follows:
Unga - Any price below 40
Kenol Kobil - Any price below 8.50
Longhorn - Any price below 6.00
All above P/E's are below 7 and the growth rate in profitability of all the three companies since 2013 is tremendous. My Buying spree starts tomorrow if my prices are met.

How have you read my mind to be keen on longhorn??its a rare thought here
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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