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Christianity Versus Education
hamburglar
#41 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 8:56:58 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
The Bible says something about a rich man, and a camel through the eye of a needle. Moreover, remember the rich dude who walked away miserable, when he was told what was left of him?

What does it benefit you, to gain the whole world and lose your ....

I love poetry. Spoken word. There's a profound one that asks, why hoard so much when others are suffering?

The last Apologetics I attended, the facilitator, a philosophy student, talked about how he went into it to quell the notion of Christianity/Religion, but the more he dug deeper, the more his faith grew! The more he asked questions, the clearer the answers became!

My brother, you are on the right track.... The answers you seek might just be revealed to you.



People who quote the bible as a source of reference are usually low IQ people. You have to be the dumbest person to say that the bible teaches against getting rich. Ati camel through the eye of a needle, just what bull crap is that? Does that mean that we should stay poor in order to get into heaven? I swear you evangelicals are the stupidest people alive.

Mukiri, your posts is as ambiguous as they come. You can't just say that this philosophy student asked questions and got answers, that is being sly. You religious people like hiding behind ambiguous statements because you lack substance. What questions did he ask and what answers did he get? Post them here so we can analyze those questions and answers. Wacha kujifanya mjanja.

Alafu these regurgitated sayings that make no sense but serve to strike fear into gullible and dumb religious people. Who say that if you gain the world that you lose your "soul"? There are a lot of rich and wealthy men who have gained the world and stayed grounded. Mukiri, before you go quoting stupid sayings, try to reason and see if they actually make sense. We are in the 21st century, we have to question things for us to be more informed and smarter.
tycho
#42 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 9:00:05 AM
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hamburglar wrote:
Tycho. Kichwa yako inakuwanga mzuri? You always keep rambling and saying things that nobody understands. Even when people ignore you, you still somehow manage to come up with some gibberish that don't make sense. Dude, you don't have to comment on every thread. Sometimes it's good to take a back seat and just watch and learn. Everytime i try to read something constructive, there you are, throwing me off with your nonsense, and by the time i skip reading all your posts, i have to remember what the topic was in the first place. Jesus.


Hahaha. So you know when 'everyone' ignores my posts!

I just think your response is typical of someone who doesn't know how to deal with opinions that differ from his own, or you're not intelligent enough to understand my 'gibberish' but you don't want to admit it.
majimaji
#43 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 9:06:41 AM
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Thank God I'm an atheist.
Swenani
#44 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 9:12:59 AM
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majimaji wrote:

Thank God I'm an atheist.

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tycho
#45 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 9:17:05 AM
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majimaji wrote:

Thank God I'm an atheist.


Why not thank your IQ?
AlphDoti
#46 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 11:06:52 AM
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tycho wrote:
majimaji wrote:

Thank God I'm an atheist.

Why not thank your IQ?

Good one @tycho Applause Applause Applause
AlphDoti
#47 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 11:20:43 AM
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tycho wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
Tycho. Kichwa yako inakuwanga mzuri? You always keep rambling and saying things that nobody understands. Even when people ignore you, you still somehow manage to come up with some gibberish that don't make sense. Dude, you don't have to comment on every thread. Sometimes it's good to take a back seat and just watch and learn. Everytime i try to read something constructive, there you are, throwing me off with your nonsense, and by the time i skip reading all your posts, i have to remember what the topic was in the first place. Jesus.

Hahaha. So you know when 'everyone' ignores my posts!

I just think your response is typical of someone who doesn't know how to deal with opinions that differ from his own, or you're not intelligent enough to understand my 'gibberish' but you don't want to admit it.

@hamburglar, arrogance is what makes people rebellious. For example, a child who later disrespects the parents, to a point of even telling them they are stupid, or they are good for nothing, that he's smart and he does not need those parents. The arrogant child forgets where he came from. He forgets he never made himself, he was formed in his mother's womb. The "foolish" mother carried him in her womb and gave birth to him and breastfed him and nursed him and taught him how to talk!

Now that he has learned sophisticated languages, his healthy legs are carrying him around, his hands which are beautiful, his handsome face which was never burnt by hot water etc.

I relate this to your arrogance that has clouded your appreciation that you didn't create yourself. And neither did your parents create themselves, neither did the sophisticated universe. The order in things proves that there is planning in all this. Your alleged brain should at least make you humble enough to recognize this?
tycho
#48 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 11:31:18 AM
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Christianity is certainly being changed by human experience especially with respect to education, and that's how all religions and belief systems have changed and will change due to increased knowledge and information.

Saying that a belief system is against education is just creating a straw man. Like now it may be imputed by some that Christianity is against education or something but there's such little evidence for that. Christianity has mostly worked to promote education, and the so hyped 'IQ'.

Some of us think that they can recommend belief systems to others, mainly by concocting evidence and intimidation, but that's not only doomed to failure, but it's also a form of intellectual idleness. Beliefs are like machine operating systems, each has its context and objectives, advantages and disadvantages.

If it's about different mindsets working together to solve common problems then there are and have always been methods of going about it, and the 'Scientific method' is one of them.

Otherwise chest thumping that one eats 'goody goody' for lunch because you're an atheist, or you're heaven bound because you're theistic is nonsense.

Mukiri
#49 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 11:34:33 AM
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hamburglar wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
The Bible says something about a rich man, and a camel through the eye of a needle. Moreover, remember the rich dude who walked away miserable, when he was told what was left of him?

What does it benefit you, to gain the whole world and lose your ....

I love poetry. Spoken word. There's a profound one that asks, why hoard so much when others are suffering?

The last Apologetics I attended, the facilitator, a philosophy student, talked about how he went into it to quell the notion of Christianity/Religion, but the more he dug deeper, the more his faith grew! The more he asked questions, the clearer the answers became!

My brother, you are on the right track.... The answers you seek might just be revealed to you.



People who quote the bible as a source of reference are usually low IQ people. You have to be the dumbest person to say that the bible teaches against getting rich. Ati camel through the eye of a needle, just what bull crap is that? Does that mean that we should stay poor in order to get into heaven? I swear you evangelicals are the stupidest people alive.

Mukiri, your posts is as ambiguous as they come. You can't just say that this philosophy student asked questions and got answers, that is being sly. You religious people like hiding behind ambiguous statements because you lack substance. What questions did he ask and what answers did he get? Post them here so we can analyze those questions and answers. Wacha kujifanya mjanja.

Alafu these regurgitated sayings that make no sense but serve to strike fear into gullible and dumb religious people. Who say that if you gain the world that you lose your "soul"? There are a lot of rich and wealthy men who have gained the world and stayed grounded. Mukiri, before you go quoting stupid sayings, try to reason and see if they actually make sense. We are in the 21st century, we have to question things for us to be more informed and smarter.

Too much matusi for me to read.

I live and let live. Won't hear me abusing you for exercising your rights.

Proverbs 19:21
majimaji
#50 Posted : Friday, August 07, 2015 11:52:34 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
majimaji wrote:

Thank God I'm an atheist.

Why not thank your IQ?

Good one @tycho Applause Applause Applause


When my IQ reaches 100, am sellingsmile
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