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Impunity
#2141 Posted : Sunday, August 02, 2015 6:02:18 PM
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Gathige wrote:
A colleague just lost his baggage while on KQ flight and is swearing never to fly them again. This airline has just too many problems and would be be left to die naturally and a new airline picks up and starts afresh.

A PR stunt with Sir Charles and Manu is a script from the past, holding nothing for the future.


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#2142 Posted : Sunday, August 02, 2015 8:32:04 PM
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obiero wrote:
Now that all is said and done.. How much lower can the share slide?? Can it go below kobole?? God forbid ooh..


It's Mumias all over again. Effect of the shock on the price takes time even a year
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#2143 Posted : Sunday, August 02, 2015 10:40:14 PM
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We were expecting 10b loss at 8bob and we got 25b. It should generally be ranked same as mumias. So it should oscilate between 1.8 and 3bob in the medium term
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#2144 Posted : Sunday, August 02, 2015 11:59:52 PM
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itz wrote:
obiero wrote:
Now that all is said and done.. How much lower can the share slide?? Can it go below kobole?? God forbid ooh..


Going by everything Mbuvi has said since he became CEO and also on all TV networks after the disastrous losses it seems a chapter 11 bankruptcy is in the making and this will wipe all shareholders value.either a reorganization type bankruptcy or the GOK lends them like 40 bill at 2-3% with a 20 plus year loan term then hire a CEO who has been able to turn around a big airline from bankruptcy.


i was off by 20 bill they actually require 60 bill mind boggling

http://www.nation.co.ke/...14/-/i9psvz/-/index.html
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#2145 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 8:55:14 AM
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instinct wrote:
We were expecting 10b loss at 8bob and we got 25b. It should generally be ranked same as mumias. So it should oscilate between 1.8 and 3bob in the medium term

Today will be a key day to watch the price movement, most people who bought the share did it at prices above 14 hence supply may be thin

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#2146 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 8:57:53 AM
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itz wrote:
itz wrote:
[quote=obiero]Now that all is said and done.. How much lower can the share slide?? Can it go below kobole?? God forbid ooh..


Going by everything Mbuvi has said since he became CEO and also on all TV networks after the disastrous losses it seems a chapter 11 bankruptcy is in the making and this will wipe all shareholders value.either a reorganization type bankruptcy or the GOK lends them like 40 bill at 2-3% with a 20 plus year loan term then hire a CEO who has been able to turn around a big airline from bankruptcy.


i was off by 20 bill they actually require 60 bill mind boggling

http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/i9psvz/-/index.html[/quote]
This is madness! Who will foot this bailout bill (I expect it to be higher) in a struggling econ?
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#2147 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 9:06:41 AM
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hisah wrote:
itz wrote:
itz wrote:
[quote=obiero]Now that all is said and done.. How much lower can the share slide?? Can it go below kobole?? God forbid ooh..


Going by everything Mbuvi has said since he became CEO and also on all TV networks after the disastrous losses it seems a chapter 11 bankruptcy is in the making and this will wipe all shareholders value.either a reorganization type bankruptcy or the GOK lends them like 40 bill at 2-3% with a 20 plus year loan term then hire a CEO who has been able to turn around a big airline from bankruptcy.


i was off by 20 bill they actually require 60 bill mind boggling

http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/i9psvz/-/index.html[/quote]
This is madness! Who will foot this bailout bill (I expect it to be higher) in a struggling econ?


They had been approached by Etihad a while back...
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#2148 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 10:53:44 AM
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Not being an expert in airlines operations can someone tell me why KQ shouldn't revise it's strategy and offerings so that it competes on pricing. Why can't they focus on making local flying affordable to the budding middle class to eg Mombasa- Nbi to cost not higher than 5000 one way?
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#2149 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 11:00:36 AM
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Rahatupu wrote:
Not being an expert in airlines operations can someone tell me why KQ shouldn't revise it's strategy and offerings so that it competes on pricing. Why can't they focus on making local flying affordable to the budding middle class to eg Mombasa- Nbi to cost not higher than 5000 one way?


Haven't you heard of JamboJet?
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#2150 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 11:04:14 AM
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sparkly wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
Not being an expert in airlines operations can someone tell me why KQ shouldn't revise it's strategy and offerings so that it competes on pricing. Why can't they focus on making local flying affordable to the budding middle class to eg Mombasa- Nbi to cost not higher than 5000 one way?


Haven't you heard of JamboJet?

Jambojet tackles that space extremely well at lows of KES 2,950 one way

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#2151 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 11:04:43 AM
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itz wrote:
itz wrote:
[quote=obiero]Now that all is said and done.. How much lower can the share slide?? Can it go below kobole?? God forbid ooh..


Going by everything Mbuvi has said since he became CEO and also on all TV networks after the disastrous losses it seems a chapter 11 bankruptcy is in the making and this will wipe all shareholders value.either a reorganization type bankruptcy or the GOK lends them like 40 bill at 2-3% with a 20 plus year loan term then hire a CEO who has been able to turn around a big airline from bankruptcy.


i was off by 20 bill they actually require 60 bill mind boggling

http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/i9psvz/-/index.html[/quote]

With 60b, one can buy a complete brand new airline. Wht is this!!?
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#2152 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 2:25:42 PM
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i just felt like this picture belongs here

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#2153 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 2:31:58 PM
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Siringi wrote:
i just felt like this picture belongs here


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#2154 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 2:34:14 PM
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Siringi wrote:
i just felt like this picture belongs here

Is he wanking off?
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#2155 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 2:40:00 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Siringi wrote:
i just felt like this picture belongs here

Is he wanking off?

It that @Obiero's former mdosi smile
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#2156 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 2:47:36 PM
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Othelo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Siringi wrote:
i just felt like this picture belongs here

Is he wanking off?

It that @Obiero's former mdosi smile

Mfisadi mkuu jameni.. Na bibi yake anawachwa apande matatu pale Nairobi West kila asubuhi. Shame. Btw, I remember Bob Collymore was seated right next to Naikuni on that day..

KQ ABP 4.48; MTN ABP 5.20
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Impunity
#2157 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 5:51:08 PM
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obiero wrote:
Othelo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Siringi wrote:
i just felt like this picture belongs here

Is he wanking off?

It that @Obiero's former mdosi smile

Mfisadi mkuu jameni.. Na bibi yake anawachwa apande matatu pale Nairobi West kila asubuhi. Shame. Btw, I remember Bob Collymore was seated right next to Naikuni on that day..


Where was that event? Looks to me like some swimming competition in those Braeburn like schools for upper primary classes.
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#2158 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 7:15:36 PM
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Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Othelo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Siringi wrote:
i just felt like this picture belongs here

Is he wanking off?

It that @Obiero's former mdosi smile

Mfisadi mkuu jameni.. Na bibi yake anawachwa apande matatu pale Nairobi West kila asubuhi. Shame. Btw, I remember Bob Collymore was seated right next to Naikuni on that day..


Where was that event? Looks to me like some swimming competition in those Braeburn like schools for upper primary classes.

South Coast, Mombasa. Event was hosted by Strut It Afrika

KQ ABP 4.48; MTN ABP 5.20
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#2159 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2015 6:02:51 AM
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obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Othelo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Siringi wrote:
i just felt like this picture belongs here

Is he wanking off?

It that @Obiero's former mdosi smile

Mfisadi mkuu jameni.. Na bibi yake anawachwa apande matatu pale Nairobi West kila asubuhi. Shame. Btw, I remember Bob Collymore was seated right next to Naikuni on that day..


Where was that event? Looks to me like some swimming competition in those Braeburn like schools for upper primary classes.

South Coast, Mombasa. Event was hosted by Strut It Afrika


How old were those chiclets.
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#2160 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2015 3:33:55 PM
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obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
Not being an expert in airlines operations can someone tell me why KQ shouldn't revise it's strategy and offerings so that it competes on pricing. Why can't they focus on making local flying affordable to the budding middle class to eg Mombasa- Nbi to cost not higher than 5000 one way?


Haven't you heard of JamboJet?

Jambojet tackles that space extremely well at lows of KES 2,950 one way


@obiero I meant why not model the whole airline in this strategic direction? Why don't they realize that their prices and poor services are their undoing? This excuse of last minute booking is bull crap.
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