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Much Know wrote:The long and short of it is to me KU was the worst session full of Kenyan beggars with Phds, problem with these beggers is they have begged elsewhere 'in your name' and messed up, i know they chew money meant to benefit all from grants "mara youth women e.t.c" and when they saw Obama, these "intellectuals" all started by begging, instead of trying to learn from Obama and also we to learn, Obama had already set aside 1billion dollors "for women entreprenuers" (will end up with these grant people na maproposal zao not businessmen)selfish people, mimi, I, myself, whether ni mambo na elephant which we should know better, sijui woiyishe mamuslims, 41 children family e.t.c are all nonsense and it happened at KU, if that has nothing to do with KU i don't know. Even their begging ideas were not so good  Time would have been better spent listening to mama mbogas and gumzo mtaani problems. The session may not have been articulated well but even Obama himself know that that this is a mwananchi session and he said so himself.We cannot ignore the role of the civil social and community based organizations.Foundations such as girl child empowerment-saying no to early marriages and FGM,boy child empowerment,Protection of wildlife,freedom of the press and human rights.Anti-giggers campaign also has been a great movementwith has impacted a lot of Kenyans.We cannot leave the work of developing the country to politicians alone.I do not like some of the antics of Bonnie but he plays an important role.We cannot ignore the work of Pastor Timothy Njoya. The middle class pays a lot of money in taxes and we need to ensure that our taxes are used correctly.We need to pressure the government to be efficient and ensure better lives for our people.We should be able to conduct and support peaceful demonstrations.We need to be part of social change.Infact social entrepreneurship was part of GES. The link for the session is below: Consistency is better than intensity
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nakujua wrote:sasa mimi sielewi, did professors ask un-professor like questions ama were professors activists, ama did the activist professors ask funny questions, and what value did activists get listening to Obama - I thought guatanamo, and the drone issue would be at the fore, plus the white black relations in the states. I watched the session. O'bummer told civil society fellows that he was there to learn from them about what they do. He started by saying he had worked in civil society himself. There was no way they could have asked about American issues when he had told them that! Also, the list must have been drawn by USA embassy as they kept thanking them, USAID & Godec
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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He also asked them to keep it civil. Mwangi and Waitherero would have not managed
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Lolest! wrote:He also asked them to keep it civil. Mwangi and Waitherero would have not managed For the first time he was very quiet. Consistency is better than intensity
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MaichBlack wrote:PeterReborn wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Bykhovets wrote:
Stop defending KU so much. KU has significant challenges with quality of education and management. Worse than any found at UoN and Moi. Their quantity over quality policy is simply a sham. New building and infrastructure doesn't equal a great learning environment.
KU and Mugenda have done great in terms of infrastructure and failed miserably in terms of quality education! And that is why institutions need a change of guard. Mugenda should now leave and KU gets someone with a focus on QUALITY EDUCATION. Mugenda has done his bit with infrastructural development. The Quality of education at KU is a joke! Classes of hundreds of students! How do you teach a fellow in first year calculus with a microphone while he is at the back of a class of 500 students? How does a lecturer supervise a CAT being done by 500 people? Does he even bother to mark the CATs? If he has 6 classes, those are 3000 students/Scripts. You expect him to mark 3000 CAT I, 3000 CAT II, 3000 assignment I, 3000 assignment II, 3000 Final Exam scripts??? Seriously? You expect him to engage the students and discuss their work/ideas. Not in a million years!!! KU also had full Engineering departments with no single Engineer or even a lecturer trained in the area the course is focusing on! Even the chairman is from a different discipline - like History or Linguistics!!! Read the Engineers Board of Kenya Report on KU Engineering courses and you will not believe your eyes!!! Total joke. The problem is not Peculiar to KU.you go for an MBA class in UON with over 200 students at Ambank House.The microphone is not working and he has no projector.He scribbles something on the board where even the students sitting on the front seats cannot see.Some lecturers attend less than 50% of the classes as they are busy consulting. The problem with our universities is greed for money.They are now running as businesses and have little focus on the quality of education. But KU is notorious for this. MBA at THE has the same problem. The numbers are crazy. I understand there was a time some fellows were not sitting for CATs. They could simply hire undergraduate students who could study and sit for the CATs on their behalf. I don't know if this still happens given that nowadays I believe they ask for IDs at the entrance to ensure only bonafide students attend classes. Apparently some time back some random Kenyans (non students) could attend selected classes for knowledge.  Seriously? This is very nice. If I knew it happens I would do it here n there in fields of my interest.
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washiku wrote:MaichBlack wrote:PeterReborn wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Bykhovets wrote:
Stop defending KU so much. KU has significant challenges with quality of education and management. Worse than any found at UoN and Moi. Their quantity over quality policy is simply a sham. New building and infrastructure doesn't equal a great learning environment.
KU and Mugenda have done great in terms of infrastructure and failed miserably in terms of quality education! And that is why institutions need a change of guard. Mugenda should now leave and KU gets someone with a focus on QUALITY EDUCATION. Mugenda has done his bit with infrastructural development. The Quality of education at KU is a joke! Classes of hundreds of students! How do you teach a fellow in first year calculus with a microphone while he is at the back of a class of 500 students? How does a lecturer supervise a CAT being done by 500 people? Does he even bother to mark the CATs? If he has 6 classes, those are 3000 students/Scripts. You expect him to mark 3000 CAT I, 3000 CAT II, 3000 assignment I, 3000 assignment II, 3000 Final Exam scripts??? Seriously? You expect him to engage the students and discuss their work/ideas. Not in a million years!!! KU also had full Engineering departments with no single Engineer or even a lecturer trained in the area the course is focusing on! Even the chairman is from a different discipline - like History or Linguistics!!! Read the Engineers Board of Kenya Report on KU Engineering courses and you will not believe your eyes!!! Total joke. The problem is not Peculiar to KU.you go for an MBA class in UON with over 200 students at Ambank House.The microphone is not working and he has no projector.He scribbles something on the board where even the students sitting on the front seats cannot see.Some lecturers attend less than 50% of the classes as they are busy consulting. The problem with our universities is greed for money.They are now running as businesses and have little focus on the quality of education. But KU is notorious for this. MBA at THE has the same problem. The numbers are crazy. I understand there was a time some fellows were not sitting for CATs. They could simply hire undergraduate students who could study and sit for the CATs on their behalf. I don't know if this still happens given that nowadays I believe they ask for IDs at the entrance to ensure only bonafide students attend classes. Apparently some time back some random Kenyans (non students) could attend selected classes for knowledge. Seriously? This is very nice. If I knew it happens I would do it here n there in fields of my interest. Yes @Washiku. It used to happen at UON (especially evening classes) until they resulted to positioning watchmen outside the lecture halls to check IDs as people walk into class. You attend accounting classes (so that you can do accounts for your business), marketing, (business) law etc. Free of charge!!! Welcome to Nairobbery!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Is it POTUS or Borders -)  I'mamemberofluhyacouncilofeleders If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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MaichBlack wrote:washiku wrote:MaichBlack wrote:PeterReborn wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Bykhovets wrote:
Stop defending KU so much. KU has significant challenges with quality of education and management. Worse than any found at UoN and Moi. Their quantity over quality policy is simply a sham. New building and infrastructure doesn't equal a great learning environment.
KU and Mugenda have done great in terms of infrastructure and failed miserably in terms of quality education! And that is why institutions need a change of guard. Mugenda should now leave and KU gets someone with a focus on QUALITY EDUCATION. Mugenda has done his bit with infrastructural development. The Quality of education at KU is a joke! Classes of hundreds of students! How do you teach a fellow in first year calculus with a microphone while he is at the back of a class of 500 students? How does a lecturer supervise a CAT being done by 500 people? Does he even bother to mark the CATs? If he has 6 classes, those are 3000 students/Scripts. You expect him to mark 3000 CAT I, 3000 CAT II, 3000 assignment I, 3000 assignment II, 3000 Final Exam scripts??? Seriously? You expect him to engage the students and discuss their work/ideas. Not in a million years!!! KU also had full Engineering departments with no single Engineer or even a lecturer trained in the area the course is focusing on! Even the chairman is from a different discipline - like History or Linguistics!!! Read the Engineers Board of Kenya Report on KU Engineering courses and you will not believe your eyes!!! Total joke. The problem is not Peculiar to KU.you go for an MBA class in UON with over 200 students at Ambank House.The microphone is not working and he has no projector.He scribbles something on the board where even the students sitting on the front seats cannot see.Some lecturers attend less than 50% of the classes as they are busy consulting. The problem with our universities is greed for money.They are now running as businesses and have little focus on the quality of education. But KU is notorious for this. MBA at THE has the same problem. The numbers are crazy. I understand there was a time some fellows were not sitting for CATs. They could simply hire undergraduate students who could study and sit for the CATs on their behalf. I don't know if this still happens given that nowadays I believe they ask for IDs at the entrance to ensure only bonafide students attend classes. Apparently some time back some random Kenyans (non students) could attend selected classes for knowledge. Seriously? This is very nice. If I knew it happens I would do it here n there in fields of my interest. Yes @Washiku. It used to happen at UON (especially evening classes) until they resulted to positioning watchmen outside the lecture halls to check IDs as people walk into class. You attend accounting classes (so that you can do accounts for your business), marketing, (business) law etc. Free of charge!!! Welcome to Nairobbery!!! To me, that would be the only positive thing about Nairobbery .... quenching the thirst for knowledge.
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Iganamagana wrote:MaichBlack wrote:washiku wrote:MaichBlack wrote:PeterReborn wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Bykhovets wrote:
Stop defending KU so much. KU has significant challenges with quality of education and management. Worse than any found at UoN and Moi. Their quantity over quality policy is simply a sham. New building and infrastructure doesn't equal a great learning environment.
KU and Mugenda have done great in terms of infrastructure and failed miserably in terms of quality education! And that is why institutions need a change of guard. Mugenda should now leave and KU gets someone with a focus on QUALITY EDUCATION. Mugenda has done his bit with infrastructural development. The Quality of education at KU is a joke! Classes of hundreds of students! How do you teach a fellow in first year calculus with a microphone while he is at the back of a class of 500 students? How does a lecturer supervise a CAT being done by 500 people? Does he even bother to mark the CATs? If he has 6 classes, those are 3000 students/Scripts. You expect him to mark 3000 CAT I, 3000 CAT II, 3000 assignment I, 3000 assignment II, 3000 Final Exam scripts??? Seriously? You expect him to engage the students and discuss their work/ideas. Not in a million years!!! KU also had full Engineering departments with no single Engineer or even a lecturer trained in the area the course is focusing on! Even the chairman is from a different discipline - like History or Linguistics!!! Read the Engineers Board of Kenya Report on KU Engineering courses and you will not believe your eyes!!! Total joke. The problem is not Peculiar to KU.you go for an MBA class in UON with over 200 students at Ambank House.The microphone is not working and he has no projector.He scribbles something on the board where even the students sitting on the front seats cannot see.Some lecturers attend less than 50% of the classes as they are busy consulting. The problem with our universities is greed for money.They are now running as businesses and have little focus on the quality of education. But KU is notorious for this. MBA at THE has the same problem. The numbers are crazy. I understand there was a time some fellows were not sitting for CATs. They could simply hire undergraduate students who could study and sit for the CATs on their behalf. I don't know if this still happens given that nowadays I believe they ask for IDs at the entrance to ensure only bonafide students attend classes. Apparently some time back some random Kenyans (non students) could attend selected classes for knowledge. Seriously? This is very nice. If I knew it happens I would do it here n there in fields of my interest. Yes @Washiku. It used to happen at UON (especially evening classes) until they resulted to positioning watchmen outside the lecture halls to check IDs as people walk into class. You attend accounting classes (so that you can do accounts for your business), marketing, (business) law etc. Free of charge!!! Welcome to Nairobbery!!! To me, that would be the only positive thing about Nairobbery .... quenching the thirst for knowledge. Some of these outsiders were actually thieves who would come to pickpocket the students. Consistency is better than intensity
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