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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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sparkly wrote:
2015 will be a bad year for stocks. Let those who have ears hear.
My prophetic words in January 2014. And the confirmation below (cartoon courtesy of @Hisah) Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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sparkly wrote:sparkly wrote:
2015 will be a bad year for stocks. Let those who have ears hear.
My prophetic words in January 2014. And the confirmation below (cartoon courtesy of @Hisah) Inorder for us to believe you prophet, you should place a chart dated Jan 2014 to May 2015 then we shall believe you "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/16/2009 Posts: 994
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murchr wrote:sparkly wrote:sparkly wrote:
2015 will be a bad year for stocks. Let those who have ears hear.
My prophetic words in January 2014. And the confirmation below (cartoon courtesy of @Hisah) Inorder for us to believe you prophet, you should place a chart dated Jan 2014 to May 2015 then we shall believe you But the prophesy is for 2015, which criteria makes you take the analysis to 2014? Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Gatheuzi wrote:murchr wrote:sparkly wrote:sparkly wrote:
2015 will be a bad year for stocks. Let those who have ears hear.
My prophetic words in January 2014. And the confirmation below (cartoon courtesy of @Hisah) Inorder for us to believe you prophet, you should place a chart dated Jan 2014 to May 2015 then we shall believe you But the prophesy is for 2015, which criteria makes you take the analysis to 2014? Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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sparkly wrote:Gatheuzi wrote:murchr wrote:sparkly wrote:sparkly wrote:
2015 will be a bad year for stocks. Let those who have ears hear.
My prophetic words in January 2014. And the confirmation below (cartoon courtesy of @Hisah) Inorder for us to believe you prophet, you should place a chart dated Jan 2014 to May 2015 then we shall believe you But the prophesy is for 2015, which criteria makes you take the analysis to 2014? Fair enough time is still with us "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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I haven't seen a "Hello, what stock should I buy?" thread in a while. Optimism has turned into ambivalence. Greed replaced by caution. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/30/2014 Posts: 86 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:I haven't seen a "Hello, what stock should I buy?" thread in a while.
Optimism has turned into ambivalence.
Greed replaced by caution. Tuko darasani internalizing
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/1/2010 Posts: 272 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:I haven't seen a "Hello, what stock should I buy?" thread in a while.
Optimism has turned into ambivalence.
Greed replaced by caution. Nabii Sparkly Weka number ya kutuma mbegu The harder you work, the luckier you get
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/15/2010 Posts: 391 Location: nairobie
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sparkly wrote:I haven't seen a "Hello, what stock should I buy?" thread in a while.
Optimism has turned into ambivalence.
Greed replaced by caution. hellos wameamka eyes are open waiting to buy at the right moment
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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hisah wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Prices heading lower and lower... This has always happened in late December. Nothing new indeed prices do dip in Dec, but this time something is different. Vol spike/heavy turnover in Dec (vacation break period esp foreign deals). First time I'm seeing such heavy trading activity that mirrors end of Jan/start of Feb when trading desks are back in operation.
Sum up the turnover in Dec and compare with the other months in 2014. Weird activity. Then do an average for all Dec months and notice the abnormal turnover. Why are the exchange bar guys this busy in the market during xmas period? Aren't they supposed to be on holiday? Scangroup trades 1.6B turnover in two days on xmas week?! Abnormal Dec activity. So the abnormal Dec turnover activity was...? Was it bullish (accumulation) or bearish (distribution)? Make your own conclusion. $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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hisah wrote:hisah wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Prices heading lower and lower... This has always happened in late December. Nothing new indeed prices do dip in Dec, but this time something is different. Vol spike/heavy turnover in Dec (vacation break period esp foreign deals). First time I'm seeing such heavy trading activity that mirrors end of Jan/start of Feb when trading desks are back in operation.
Sum up the turnover in Dec and compare with the other months in 2014. Weird activity. Then do an average for all Dec months and notice the abnormal turnover. Why are the exchange bar guys this busy in the market during xmas period? Aren't they supposed to be on holiday? Scangroup trades 1.6B turnover in two days on xmas week?! Abnormal Dec activity. So the abnormal Dec turnover activity was...? Was it bullish (accumulation) or bearish (distribution)? Make your own conclusion. Distribution!! these big boys are always 3 steps ahead of wanjiku The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/3/2011 Posts: 264 Location: Nairobi
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Been a while since I was last here, (since 2010 to be exact).
I was a student then, and boy did I learn. Got in at the peak and got burned severely. I got out with my tail between my legs (stock market si ya mummy).
Many lessons have been learnt since then.
1. Unless you can afford to keep track of stocks and indices full time and think about them as you go to bed, leave the trading to the traders. (and the chartists, etc)
2. If you're looking at the stock market for your next meal, please stop looking. (i.e don't have it as your primary income source or nest egg). In this relation, try as much as possible not to exit when you're neck deep in the red - the loss is not made till you sell.
3.Learn how to read financial statements (not relying on others to interpret for you) and learn to see and observe and relate how events relate to your investments. (Peter Lynch here). The main aim is investing thus aim to pay as little as possible for current and future dividends (the sock price rationally follows the dividend).
4. Consistency and patience esp for the young and the risk averse. If your aim is not trading, find good companies(see lesson 3), save cash and amass stock in intervals. Like having a fixed amount set aside for share purchases.
If the market sentiment is too bullish, buy small quantities(like half the cash you had set aside).
If the market starts heading down, proportionally increase your purchases. Bring down that buying average.(remember ugali wako hatoki hapa- see lesson 2).
Yes, these methods will not grant you the same returns as those who go fully in at the bottom of the curve, but there is less risk of missing the upward slope next time.
Which brings me to the last lesson,
5. Flexibility. Read the market. Feel the sentiment in the air and combine with lesson3. If there is nothing truly wrong with the fundamentals but prices are dipping - buy. If the books and prospects do not justify a sky rocketing stock price, eat bile, miss that wave and forget it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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hisah wrote:hisah wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Prices heading lower and lower... This has always happened in late December. Nothing new indeed prices do dip in Dec, but this time something is different. Vol spike/heavy turnover in Dec (vacation break period esp foreign deals). First time I'm seeing such heavy trading activity that mirrors end of Jan/start of Feb when trading desks are back in operation.
Sum up the turnover in Dec and compare with the other months in 2014. Weird activity. Then do an average for all Dec months and notice the abnormal turnover. Why are the exchange bar guys this busy in the market during xmas period? Aren't they supposed to be on holiday? Scangroup trades 1.6B turnover in two days on xmas week?! Abnormal Dec activity. So the abnormal Dec turnover activity was...? Was it bullish (accumulation) or bearish (distribution)? Make your own conclusion. Distribution! You were spot on. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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subaru wrote:sparkly wrote:I haven't seen a "Hello, what stock should I buy?" thread in a while.
Optimism has turned into ambivalence.
Greed replaced by caution. hellos wameamka eyes are open waiting to buy at the right moment Hope Hellos are watching and learning... Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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lochaes wrote:sparkly wrote:I haven't seen a "Hello, what stock should I buy?" thread in a while.
Optimism has turned into ambivalence.
Greed replaced by caution. Tuko darasani internalizing Lesson is simple enough. Avoid expensive markets/ shares. Buy when the market is cheap. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/30/2014 Posts: 86 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:lochaes wrote:sparkly wrote:I haven't seen a "Hello, what stock should I buy?" thread in a while.
Optimism has turned into ambivalence.
Greed replaced by caution. Tuko darasani internalizing Lesson is simple enough. Avoid expensive markets/ shares. Buy when the market is cheap. duly noted
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/13/2014 Posts: 386 Location: Denmark
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Muthawamunene wrote:Been a while since I was last here, (since 2010 to be exact).
I was a student then, and boy did I learn. Got in at the peak and got burned severely. I got out with my tail between my legs (stock market si ya mummy).
Many lessons have been learnt since then.
1. Unless you can afford to keep track of stocks and indices full time and think about them as you go to bed, leave the trading to the traders. (and the chartists, etc)
2. If you're looking at the stock market for your next meal, please stop looking. (i.e don't have it as your primary income source or nest egg). In this relation, try as much as possible not to exit when you're neck deep in the red - the loss is not made till you sell.
3.Learn how to read financial statements (not relying on others to interpret for you) and learn to see and observe and relate how events relate to your investments. (Peter Lynch here). The main aim is investing thus aim to pay as little as possible for current and future dividends (the sock price rationally follows the dividend).
4. Consistency and patience esp for the young and the risk averse. If your aim is not trading, find good companies(see lesson 3), save cash and amass stock in intervals. Like having a fixed amount set aside for share purchases.
If the market sentiment is too bullish, buy small quantities(like half the cash you had set aside).
If the market starts heading down, proportionally increase your purchases. Bring down that buying average.(remember ugali wako hatoki hapa- see lesson 2).
Yes, these methods will not grant you the same returns as those who go fully in at the bottom of the curve, but there is less risk of missing the upward slope next time.
Which brings me to the last lesson,
5. Flexibility. Read the market. Feel the sentiment in the air and combine with lesson3. If there is nothing truly wrong with the fundamentals but prices are dipping - buy. If the books and prospects do not justify a sky rocketing stock price, eat bile, miss that wave and forget it.
Nice read @muthawamunene. Great advice there. Welcome back Seeing is believing
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Smells like a burnt hello. But kudos ur on the right path The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/3/2014 Posts: 245
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sparkly wrote:I haven't seen a "Hello, what stock should I buy?" thread in a while.
Optimism has turned into ambivalence.
Greed replaced by caution. new version is "which sacco to join" ? and "plot for sale" In the world of securities, courage and patience become the supreme virtues after adequate knowledge and a tested judgment are at hand.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/3/2011 Posts: 264 Location: Nairobi
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Aguytrying wrote:Smells like a burnt hello. But kudos ur on the right path
Of course its a burnt hello.
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