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Fountain Enterprises Programme - FEP
Dahatre
#141 Posted : Friday, July 03, 2015 8:45:21 PM
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Or a good non-biased investigative report from a journalist, with some interviews of share holders, with re-prints in Taifa Leo.
But knowing our media, we will only hear the end results..whatever they are if we are lucky.

Shak wrote:
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Better still an investigation of the company should be carried out by the necessary authorities. Maybe EACC or whichever other authority can come in before it's too late

Boris Boyka
#142 Posted : Sunday, July 05, 2015 11:31:14 AM
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There is ONLY ONE SOLUTION to these people fleecing fellow kenyans; ASSASINATION!! Am very sure one of these days angry "investors" will loose their temper and do the neccessary ile iwe funzo kwa wahusika na wengine wenye tabia kama hiyo. When 1/2/3 figures that have stolen from unsuspecting kenyans will be sent six feet under and it be known publicly signals will be sent clearly. Nobody will want to start,head or associate with such things lest you be makuenid.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
xtina
#143 Posted : Monday, July 06, 2015 10:11:53 AM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
There is ONLY ONE SOLUTION to these people fleecing fellow kenyans; ASSASINATION!! Am very sure one of these days angry "investors" will loose their temper and do the neccessary ile iwe funzo kwa wahusika na wengine wenye tabia kama hiyo. When 1/2/3 figures that have stolen from unsuspecting kenyans will be sent six feet under and it be known publicly signals will be sent clearly. Nobody will want to start,head or associate with such things lest you be makuenid.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly violence is not the answer, i see you have learnt from vvs
BGL
#144 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2015 1:25:22 AM
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Double speak reloaded.

https://www.facebook.com...ES/posts/849108425166789
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murchr
#145 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2015 2:34:28 AM
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^^^^^

FEPFacebook wrote:


FEP Diaspora Leadership Meeting 5/17/15
Attendants: 31
Peter
Noel
Beatrice
Charlie
Eunice
Amos
Antony
Michael Karuu
John Kithaka
Solomon Macharia OBO Wangendo Waruimbo
Caro
Wycliff
Raphael
Njaria
Vincent
Prof. Jerono

Meeting commenced 9.05pm CT
Mr. Karuu welcomed everyone to the meeting and introduced the Group CEO to address participants.
Group CEO Dr. John Kithaka to give update on state of FEP Group
CEO asked for everyone to raise an issue that they needed to be addressed during the meeting:

1. Vincent Chesire: Issuance of certificates of shares
2. Solomon Macharia on behalf of Waruimbo: Are we going to receive dividends this year
3. Caro Maina: Eagle shares: We have till June / July to pay without 5% fee. At what point does the 5%
4. Charlie Mutua: When Over the counter shares are going to launch
5. Wycliff Chakua: Corrections to share certificates, have the changes been made?


CEO thanked everyone for the good job that the Diaspora did for PPO. He announced that PPO raised 2.3 Billion Kshs. The official communication coming up in June
FEP has transitioned from being informal to a formal Corporate Company since 1st April 2015

Beginning 1st June 2015, members will notice the difference in communication from Nairobi. Members should look forward to receiving biweekly communications. (When was this meeting held? Pray )
PPO Commissions:

0.5% commission was set aside for the recruitment. You are requested to submit for your commissions through the state leaders ?????????

All money was authorized for release. Make a requisition and payments will be made.

Certificates:

Certificates for PPO were all ready by 30th of March
Certificates to be collected personally from head office due to the sensitivity of the document and legality
To make it easier for the investors in the Diaspora to get their certificates, members can sign form to be provided by Mr. Karuu to make it possible for their State leaders to request their certificates by May 25
Tier 1, 2, 3 certificates are not ready as they are being re-audited and should be done by June 5th 2015. The certificates will be issued by 30th June 2015. CEO requested patience through this process.

Dividends:

There will be no bonus or cash dividends in 2015.
Dividends will be expected to be paid in 2016.

Bank:

Looking to open bank doors in the next 1 month.
Once the certificate to operate has been secured, the dates of AGM will be announced;
1st will be, Bank AGM (Wait they have a bank?)
Followed by FEP AGM projected on or before 27 September 2015

OTC Platform

CEO indicated that company is looking at ways to implement OTC platform for selling shares. More will be communicated once the system has been put in place.

All FEP Group companies are on clear profitability line except bank, MobiKash and Media What is left Supermarket?

National Conference:

Diaspora conference will take place on 9th – 12th October in Atlanta GA
State leaders should plan to bring a team of 5-13 leaders to the meeting.
Most of the Kenyan leadership and management will be in attendance in order to work out the best way of engaging the Diaspora to use more of FEP Products.

Documentary:

CEO Dr. Kithaka has recorded 2 documentaries that will be distributed to leaders by Mr. Karuu. Mr. Karuu will be working on ways to distribute the DVDs and he will communicate. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Eagles:

Members have until July 15th 2015 to pay the 1 million Kshs for shares to avoid paying 5% premiums.
CEO reminded members that although the documents were not ready, those who want to participate should go ahead and make payments thus ensuring that they do not miss an opportunity.

Diaspora Communication:

Mr. Karuu – President FEP Diaspora and will be the reference point on all FEP related matters
Dr. Rono –Group Investors Relations and Communications Manager
Catherine Munyiri – Managing Director Tai Housing Finance Company
Reference Point Housing/Health Care and all matters relating to Leadership Structure
Dr Jerono -President Diaspora Tai Housing

Note that when you send communication to Dr. Rono Email ronoh.desk@fep-group.com or Catherine Munyiri Email Catherine.munyiri@tai-eagles.com ,
please CC Mr. Karuu and Dr. Kithaka. This will ensure that the leaders are aware of any issues that need to be addressed.

NB Investors Concerns will be addressed through the State Leadership and the vice versa and all emails CC Mr. Karuu and Dr Kithaka
Meeting ended 10.00 PM CST.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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BGL
#146 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2015 2:39:40 PM
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The next phase of conning people is christened TAI HOUSING and TAI medical.

Infact KISIMA real estate near daystar has not taken off and they are looking for recruits MAINLY in the diaspora since kenyans are increasingly becoming aware of their machinations.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS SCAM.

http://www.tai-eagles.co.../03/membership_form.pdf

http://www.tai-eagles.com/tai-housing/
History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
enyands
#147 Posted : Sunday, July 19, 2015 2:08:16 AM
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[quote=BGL]The next phase of conning people is christened TAI HOUSING and TAI medical.

Infact KISIMA real estate near daystar has not taken off and they are looking for recruits MAINLY in the diaspora since kenyans are increasingly becoming aware of their machinations.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS SCAM.

http://www.tai-eagles.co.../03/membership_form.pdf

http://www.tai-eagles.com/tai-housing/[/quote]

Pray PrayPrayPrayPrayPray


butterflyke
#148 Posted : Sunday, July 19, 2015 10:34:57 AM
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xtina wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
There is ONLY ONE SOLUTION to these people fleecing fellow kenyans; ASSASINATION!! Am very sure one of these days angry "investors" will loose their temper and do the neccessary ile iwe funzo kwa wahusika na wengine wenye tabia kama hiyo. When 1/2/3 figures that have stolen from unsuspecting kenyans will be sent six feet under and it be known publicly signals will be sent clearly. Nobody will want to start,head or associate with such things lest you be makuenid.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly violence is not the answer, i see you have learnt from vvs


Sadly in KE, it is the whistleblowers who are targetted/makuenid Sad
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
jerry
#149 Posted : Sunday, July 19, 2015 11:09:49 AM
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Suppose a share-holder goes to court and demands an investigation?
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
Bigchick
#150 Posted : Friday, July 24, 2015 7:49:31 AM
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I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.

I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.

Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her.
Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.

Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
newfarer
#151 Posted : Friday, July 24, 2015 10:28:15 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.

I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.

Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her.
Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.


I also want to know the exact problem with them. From the website they seem to have some products, what makes them unsustainable/scam ?
punda amecheka
murchr
#152 Posted : Friday, July 24, 2015 11:16:56 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.

I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.

Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her.
Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.



You may need to read the whole thread
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Bigchick
#153 Posted : Saturday, July 25, 2015 2:40:21 PM
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murchr wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.

I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.

Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her.
Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.



You may need to read the whole thread


I have read the whole thread but it has nothing specific.It has the "If it walks like a duck......"cautious statements but nothing saying this is what is wrong.

I have seen some of their investments like Kisima estate,their mobikash and hotel in Embu.That they are not yet making money does not mean they are a scam.

NB.I wont invest in them though.I met one of their managers and was not impressed.
Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
newfarer
#154 Posted : Saturday, July 25, 2015 4:43:58 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
murchr wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.

I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.

Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her.
Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.



You may need to read the whole thread


I have read the whole thread but it has nothing specific.It has the "If it walks like a duck......"cautious statements but nothing saying this is what is wrong.

I have seen some of their investments like Kisima estate,their mobikash and hotel in Embu.That they are not yet making money does not mean they are a scam.

NB.I wont invest in them though.I met one of their managers and was not impressed.

Me too, can't see anything specific. This is unlike the wazua we normally get links. More of. Muchene than reality. Somebody give us real fact that fep is a scam. Has anyone here actually lost his money through fep and how did it happen, what action did he take?


Couldn't we be actually giving them pubicity, ie free advertisement?



C&P

vin [/b]
There is nothing like bad publicity, all publicity is good publicity. The question is what you do with the publicity. If you have depth and substance to put behind the publicity, publicity gives you the stage to showcase youry capabilities. Being sued was probably the best free marketing ever given to the Cytonn brand.[/quote]

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punda amecheka
murchr
#155 Posted : Saturday, July 25, 2015 5:04:36 PM
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newfarer wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
murchr wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.

I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.

Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her.
Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.



You may need to read the whole thread


I have read the whole thread but it has nothing specific.It has the "If it walks like a duck......"cautious statements but nothing saying this is what is wrong.

I have seen some of their investments like Kisima estate,their mobikash and hotel in Embu.That they are not yet making money does not mean they are a scam.

NB.I wont invest in them though.I met one of their managers and was not impressed.

Me too, can't see anything specific. This is unlike the wazua we normally get links. More of. Muchene than reality. Somebody give us real fact that fep is a scam. Has anyone here actually lost his money through fep and how did it happen, what action did he take?


Couldn't we be actually giving them pubicity, ie free advertisement?


At the end of every financial year, every legitimate business including a kiosk will show their financial statements - Balance sheet, and income statement. Even when they are making losses due to capital expenditure. Has your aunt received any of these since she joined?

Kisima estate. The last time I heard that they were building a housing estate--that was in 2010 or there about...Have they sold any? Have you seen any house sold in Lukenya? What guarantee do you have about Tai housing?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
newfarer
#156 Posted : Saturday, July 25, 2015 5:08:29 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,504
Location: Uganda
murchr wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
murchr wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.

I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.

Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her.
Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.



You may need to read the whole thread


I have read the whole thread but it has nothing specific.It has the "If it walks like a duck......"cautious statements but nothing saying this is what is wrong.

I have seen some of their investments like Kisima estate,their mobikash and hotel in Embu.That they are not yet making money does not mean they are a scam.

NB.I wont invest in them though.I met one of their managers and was not impressed.

Me too, can't see anything specific. This is unlike the wazua we normally get links. More of. Muchene than reality. Somebody give us real fact that fep is a scam. Has anyone here actually lost his money through fep and how did it happen, what action did he take?


Couldn't we be actually giving them pubicity, ie free advertisement?


At the end of every financial year, every legitimate business including a kiosk will show their financial statements - Balance sheet, and income statement. Even when they are making losses due to capital expenditure. Has your aunt received any of these since she joined?

Kisima estate. The last time I heard that they were building a housing estate--that was in 2010 or there about...Have they sold any? Have you seen any house sold in Lukenya? What guarantee do you have about Tai housing?



I read that they held an agm last year on this thread , they did it without annual accounts?
punda amecheka
murchr
#157 Posted : Saturday, July 25, 2015 5:10:53 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
newfarer wrote:
murchr wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
murchr wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.

I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.

Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her.
Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.



You may need to read the whole thread


I have read the whole thread but it has nothing specific.It has the "If it walks like a duck......"cautious statements but nothing saying this is what is wrong.

I have seen some of their investments like Kisima estate,their mobikash and hotel in Embu.That they are not yet making money does not mean they are a scam.

NB.I wont invest in them though.I met one of their managers and was not impressed.

Me too, can't see anything specific. This is unlike the wazua we normally get links. More of. Muchene than reality. Somebody give us real fact that fep is a scam. Has anyone here actually lost his money through fep and how did it happen, what action did he take?


Couldn't we be actually giving them pubicity, ie free advertisement?


At the end of every financial year, every legitimate business including a kiosk will show their financial statements - Balance sheet, and income statement. Even when they are making losses due to capital expenditure. Has your aunt received any of these since she joined?

Kisima estate. The last time I heard that they were building a housing estate--that was in 2010 or there about...Have they sold any? Have you seen any house sold in Lukenya? What guarantee do you have about Tai housing?



I read that they held an agm last year on this thread , they did it without annual accounts?


Yes.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
newfarer
#158 Posted : Saturday, July 25, 2015 5:29:27 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,504
Location: Uganda
murchr wrote:
newfarer wrote:
murchr wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
murchr wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.

I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.

Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her.
Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.



You may need to read the whole thread


I have read the whole thread but it has nothing specific.It has the "If it walks like a duck......"cautious statements but nothing saying this is what is wrong.

I have seen some of their investments like Kisima estate,their mobikash and hotel in Embu.That they are not yet making money does not mean they are a scam.

NB.I wont invest in them though.I met one of their managers and was not impressed.

Me too, can't see anything specific. This is unlike the wazua we normally get links. More of. Muchene than reality. Somebody give us real fact that fep is a scam. Has anyone here actually lost his money through fep and how did it happen, what action did he take?


Couldn't we be actually giving them pubicity, ie free advertisement?


At the end of every financial year, every legitimate business including a kiosk will show their financial statements - Balance sheet, and income statement. Even when they are making losses due to capital expenditure. Has your aunt received any of these since she joined?

Kisima estate. The last time I heard that they were building a housing estate--that was in 2010 or there about...Have they sold any? Have you seen any house sold in Lukenya? What guarantee do you have about Tai housing?



I read that they held an agm last year on this thread , they did it without annual accounts?


Yes.


BGL wrote:
I managed to attend the FEP AGM at Hotel Suntec - SAGANA

The AGM business started 3hrs late and the CEO and Chairman read through their entire written report.
-Job Kihumba of STANDARD INVESTMENT BANK (SIB) will be responsible for the OTC market which will be operational by August 2014.
-A rights issue is on the works and 420million ordinary shares will be offered to investors via a PRIVATE private offer. SIB are the lead transaction advisers and are working on the information memorandum. If the existing shareholders cannot take up all the 420mn shares on offer, other shareholders will be INVITED to participate. To be eligible to participate you will first and foremost be a CHRISTIAN.
-All FEP shareholders will get shares in fountain DTM once the license is issued.... there will be another AGM to ratify the same.
-FEP shareholders should visit any FEP office 7 days post AGM to verify their details before the share certificates are printed or fill in some shareholder details forms available at the AGM venue
-The net profit arising from operations was 22.7mn from 16.9mn last year. However the total comprehensive income reported is 1.17bn as a result of value gain in investment property.
-Shareholder funds grew from 1.62bn to 3.71bn this year
-What made shareholders happy was the two bonus share for every share held. The annual report and financial statements were provided during the meeting which was an ambush as we did not have time to go through them. Likewise the articles of association which only the management knew about.

I will post the photos of the hotel in due course.

Where did Bgl get these figures
punda amecheka
murchr
#159 Posted : Saturday, July 25, 2015 5:55:09 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
newfarer wrote:
murchr wrote:
newfarer wrote:
murchr wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
murchr wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.

I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.

Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her.
Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.



You may need to read the whole thread


I have read the whole thread but it has nothing specific.It has the "If it walks like a duck......"cautious statements but nothing saying this is what is wrong.

I have seen some of their investments like Kisima estate,their mobikash and hotel in Embu.That they are not yet making money does not mean they are a scam.

NB.I wont invest in them though.I met one of their managers and was not impressed.

Me too, can't see anything specific. This is unlike the wazua we normally get links. More of. Muchene than reality. Somebody give us real fact that fep is a scam. Has anyone here actually lost his money through fep and how did it happen, what action did he take?


Couldn't we be actually giving them pubicity, ie free advertisement?


At the end of every financial year, every legitimate business including a kiosk will show their financial statements - Balance sheet, and income statement. Even when they are making losses due to capital expenditure. Has your aunt received any of these since she joined?

Kisima estate. The last time I heard that they were building a housing estate--that was in 2010 or there about...Have they sold any? Have you seen any house sold in Lukenya? What guarantee do you have about Tai housing?



I read that they held an agm last year on this thread , they did it without annual accounts?


Yes.


BGL wrote:
I managed to attend the FEP AGM at Hotel Suntec - SAGANA

The AGM business started 3hrs late and the CEO and Chairman read through their entire written report.
-Job Kihumba of STANDARD INVESTMENT BANK (SIB) will be responsible for the OTC market which will be operational by August 2014.
-A rights issue is on the works and 420million ordinary shares will be offered to investors via a PRIVATE private offer. SIB are the lead transaction advisers and are working on the information memorandum. If the existing shareholders cannot take up all the 420mn shares on offer, other shareholders will be INVITED to participate. To be eligible to participate you will first and foremost be a CHRISTIAN.
-All FEP shareholders will get shares in fountain DTM once the license is issued.... there will be another AGM to ratify the same.
-FEP shareholders should visit any FEP office 7 days post AGM to verify their details before the share certificates are printed or fill in some shareholder details forms available at the AGM venue
-The net profit arising from operations was 22.7mn from 16.9mn last year. However the total comprehensive income reported is 1.17bn as a result of value gain in investment property.
-Shareholder funds grew from 1.62bn to 3.71bn this year
-What made shareholders happy was the two bonus share for every share held. The annual report and financial statements were provided during the meeting which was an ambush as we did not have time to go through them. Likewise the articles of association which only the management knew about.

I will post the photos of the hotel in due course.

Where did Bgl get these figures


I guess transparency is key. Where would you get this report apart from him throwing numbers here and there?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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BGL
#160 Posted : Saturday, July 25, 2015 8:48:50 PM
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I have the annual report for FY 2013.
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