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Chinese stocks have surged over 100%
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#11 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2015 10:50:07 AM
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2015 10:58:29 AM
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Its called pricking a bubble.
Soon you'll see police patrolling shanghai stock exchange
Sehemu ndio nyumba
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2015 11:14:20 AM
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Hii ni kionjo tu. The real bubble is in the bonds market. It is slowly starting to unravel. Today blue chip corporate bonds are getting dumped. Hong kong is down 8%
whiteowl
#14 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2015 10:20:45 PM
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Today, NYSE has been down for hours due to a "technical hitch".Is this the beginning of the collapse of global equities?
murchr
#15 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2015 10:45:32 PM
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China’s stock exchange regulator has imposed severe limits on stock market selling, having earlier warned of panic in the market as a range of recent government measures failed to prevent stocks plummeting a further 6%.

After 10 minutes of morning trading a wave of listed companies’ shares had been suspended across China’s two stock markets after they dropped by the daily limit of 10%.

The China Securities Regulatory Commission ruled that controlling shareholders and managers holding more than 5% of a company’s shares could not reduce their holdings for six months, in an attempt to maintain stability in the markets.

Earlier, the regulator’s statement saying there had been a surge in “irrational selling” and “panic sentiment” had done little to calm investor nerves.

http://www.theguardian.c...regulator-warns-of-panic
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2015 11:31:49 PM
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The Chinese government orchestrated the whole thing when they urged people to get loans and invest in the stock market. They even lowered interest rates to a record low so people would be lured in getting loans. This as we all know is pure risk, and Chinese banks are susceptible to a crash if the market continues the trend. Major American banks are also exposed but not by much. Good thing is few foreign investors have direct exposure to these stock markets coz China still limits the amount of overseas investment.

Majority of the people affected are the Chinese themselves, who own stocks of small companies. Since most of them did margin trading (buying stocks with borrowed money) there's an accelerated sell off to recover capital and we all know how that goes. In a country on 1.5B people, there are only 90 million trading accounts, it will take more bleeding for the downfall to affect other markets. If it does, countries like Australia and Hong Kong will be the first to bleed. Be sure to enter at the bottom of the wave.
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hisah
#17 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2015 6:28:27 PM
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China banks lend $209 billion to margin lender to lift stock prices

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China's biggest banks have lent 1.3 trillion yuan ($209.4 billion) to the country's state-backed margin lender to halt a meltdown in Chinese shares, local media said on Friday, underlining the government's determination to support stock prices.


Chinaland gubberment stepping in with massive PPT injection to kill the bears. Short sellers will be crimped badly here.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#18 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2015 7:44:32 PM
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hisah wrote:
China banks lend $209 billion to margin lender to lift stock prices

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China's biggest banks have lent 1.3 trillion yuan ($209.4 billion) to the country's state-backed margin lender to halt a meltdown in Chinese shares, local media said on Friday, underlining the government's determination to support stock prices.


Chinaland gubberment stepping in with massive PPT injection to kill the bears. Short sellers will be crimped badly here.

Though the market will start a slow decline after that unless the firms being supported have real earnings. Slow punctures make investors complacent and they start trying to average down based on PAST purchase prices vs fundamentals.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
hisah
#19 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2015 7:58:26 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
hisah wrote:
China banks lend $209 billion to margin lender to lift stock prices

Quote:
China's biggest banks have lent 1.3 trillion yuan ($209.4 billion) to the country's state-backed margin lender to halt a meltdown in Chinese shares, local media said on Friday, underlining the government's determination to support stock prices.


Chinaland gubberment stepping in with massive PPT injection to kill the bears. Short sellers will be crimped badly here.

Though the market will start a slow decline after that unless the firms being supported have real earnings. Slow punctures make investors complacent and they start trying to average down based on PAST purchase prices vs fundamentals.

Of course the market will be inflated by targeting the index heavy weights. If it were KE it would be so simple by just pressing the PPT turbo button to buy bucket loads of mpesa bank, KCB and member to force the indices up. And yes, it's a warped strategy since the market disconnects from fundies. But to force back confidence in the playground crazy strategies are unleashed!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
VituVingiSana
#20 Posted : Saturday, July 18, 2015 1:57:14 AM
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hisah wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
hisah wrote:
China banks lend $209 billion to margin lender to lift stock prices

Quote:
China's biggest banks have lent 1.3 trillion yuan ($209.4 billion) to the country's state-backed margin lender to halt a meltdown in Chinese shares, local media said on Friday, underlining the government's determination to support stock prices.


Chinaland gubberment stepping in with massive PPT injection to kill the bears. Short sellers will be crimped badly here.

Though the market will start a slow decline after that unless the firms being supported have real earnings. Slow punctures make investors complacent and they start trying to average down based on PAST purchase prices vs fundamentals.

Of course the market will be inflated by targeting the index heavy weights. If it were KE it would be so simple by just pressing the PPT turbo button to buy bucket loads of mpesa bank, KCB and member to force the indices up. And yes, it's a warped strategy since the market disconnects from fundies. But to force back confidence in the playground crazy strategies are unleashed!

It is a losing strategy though HK and Singapore did well but they stepped in to prevent massive fallout [from the Global Financial Crisis] rather than just support high prices. Or they were lucky.

In Kenya, the government should be divesting not adding to their portfolios. It's tough love but necessary. Look at KQ. Or Mumias. Or Panpaper. Or NBK.

KCB started recovering after GoK reduced its stake & private investors [Mbaru, Kirubi, Sunil Shah] started acquiring large stakes and making changes.

KenGen will be the next test for GoK. I feel they should go for PPPs and convert loans to equity (non-cash) but NOT give more cash to KenGen.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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