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A very serious "talk", without utoto, insults, ujinga, goggles, extremism, e.t.c about everything relevant to us from God, haiya! politics, economics, Africa, food, science, maths (yes ile hesabu kali!), in an enjoyable "academic" manner, where the best ideas percolate, like a good university class, by fellow wazuans....you can take sides, e.g you can take your side against God, science, Islam, Christianity, Mt. Kenya worship e.t.c all in a thread with a good "moderated" tempo, precise arguments, links, no dancing e.t.c, pure logic! I wanted to apply for a Masters in Knowledge Management at Ivy league (Columbia) where Obama went but because ya kusoma mingi, sijui GPA, sijui gmat, nataka kufanya short-cut yangu on a thread using the internet/wazua! If successful, it will be a very good learning that will also make you "marketable" in Africa I will set the tempo, using African philosophy, to kick off kutetea my side, admin are you in? Anyone in? Although I can kick off as "monologue". We Kenyans are being called, "the most intelligent Africans", so where are Africans headed to? What can Kenyans prove to the world about Africans? In Wazua the intelligent ones who used to come have gone silent, more and more silent, they go, tuko saidi mbaya sana. I tell you, Our Ancestors are calling for serious talk here ohhhh! Meru Holiness
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Much Know wrote:A very serious "talk", without utoto, insults, ujinga, goggles, extremism, e.t.c about everything relevant to us from God, haiya! politics, economics, Africa, food, science, maths (yes ile hesabu kali!), in an enjoyable "academic" manner, where the best ideas percolate, like a good university class, by fellow wazuans....you can take sides, e.g you can take your side against God, science, Islam, Christianity, Mt. Kenya worship e.t.c all in a thread with a good "moderated" tempo, precise arguments, links, no dancing e.t.c, pure logic! I wanted to apply for a Masters in Knowledge Management at Ivy league (Columbia) where Obama went but because ya kusoma mingi, sijui GPA, sijui gmat, nataka kufanya short-cut yangu on a thread using the internet/wazua! If successful, it will be a very good learning that will also make you "marketable" in Africa I will set the tempo, using African philosophy, to kick off kutetea my side, admin are you in? Anyone in? Although I can kick off as "monologue". We Kenyans are being called, "the most intelligent Africans", so where are Africans headed to? What can Kenyans prove to the world about Africans? In Wazua the intelligent ones who used to come have gone silent, more and more silent, they go, tuko saidi mbaya sana. I tell you, Our Ancestors are calling for serious talk here ohhhh! Your words are bent. Can you unbend them? "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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What do you want to know?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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Where is @Tycho? Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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Robinhood wrote:Where is @Tycho? The void.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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majimaji wrote: What do you want to know?
What are you trying to do? How can I help? "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Wakanyugi wrote:majimaji wrote: What do you want to know?
What are you trying to do? How can I help? Ah! Brother! Always a pleasure to have you around. The void is painful.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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¿ wrote:Robinhood wrote:Where is @Tycho? The void. The agony.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Wakanyugi wrote:Much Know wrote:A very serious "talk", without utoto, insults, ujinga, goggles, extremism, e.t.c about everything relevant to us from God, haiya! politics, economics, Africa, food, science, maths (yes ile hesabu kali!), in an enjoyable "academic" manner, where the best ideas percolate, like a good university class, by fellow wazuans....you can take sides, e.g you can take your side against God, science, Islam, Christianity, Mt. Kenya worship e.t.c all in a thread with a good "moderated" tempo, precise arguments, links, no dancing e.t.c, pure logic! I wanted to apply for a Masters in Knowledge Management at Ivy league (Columbia) where Obama went but because ya kusoma mingi, sijui GPA, sijui gmat, nataka kufanya short-cut yangu on a thread using the internet/wazua! If successful, it will be a very good learning that will also make you "marketable" in Africa I will set the tempo, using African philosophy, to kick off kutetea my side, admin are you in? Anyone in? Although I can kick off as "monologue". We Kenyans are being called, "the most intelligent Africans", so where are Africans headed to? What can Kenyans prove to the world about Africans? In Wazua the intelligent ones who used to come have gone silent, more and more silent, they go, tuko saidi mbaya sana. I tell you, Our Ancestors are calling for serious talk here ohhhh! Your words are bent. Can you unbend them? Yes. Where has he been all this time? Regardless, Much Know, I doubt the accuracy of the notion that we (Kenyans) are the most intelligent Africans. Because, for starters, the champions of that are themselves utterly confused. Then, secondly, how can there be no awareness of where we are headed to if we are intelligent?
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Muriel wrote:¿ wrote:Robinhood wrote:Where is @Tycho? The void. The agony. Indefinable.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,554
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To The One(s) Who Created the Internet & In the True African Spirit The 2200 CE Wazuan © 2015
Meru Holiness
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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Quote:We Kenyans are being called, "the most intelligent Africans What can Kenyans prove to the world about Africans? Ouch! Uuuhm, what differentiates Kenya from the rest of Africa and does it qualify to be used as a parameter for gauging Africans?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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kysse wrote:Quote:We Kenyans are being called, "the most intelligent Africans What can Kenyans prove to the world about Africans? Ouch! Uuuhm, what differentiates Kenya from the rest of Africa and does it qualify to be used as a parameter for gauging Africans? Wow. I had not seen it that way. Excellent point.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,554
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Muriel wrote:kysse wrote:Quote:We Kenyans are being called, "the most intelligent Africans What can Kenyans prove to the world about Africans? Ouch! Uuuhm, what differentiates Kenya from the rest of Africa and does it qualify to be used as a parameter for gauging Africans? Wow. I had not seen it that way. Excellent point. Sorry, i did not include link, but from CNN, they say, Africa's Most Intelligent City Revealed There was a wazua thread on this, assumed we all "knew". Please minimize "dancing" in class  , verifiable "high impact links" quoted "as is" with minimal paraphrasing kindly. We are regarded Africa's "most intelligent" by many people, this is common knowledge though i personally do not subscribe to this notion of "more intelligent" hence the quotes e.t.c, but that is "for now" a personal opinion, later on that in the INTELLIGENCE section. Should we begin with the RULES OF ENGAGEMENT or I continue to set the tempo? Thanks Meru Holiness
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,554
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Introduction: African Values Objectives: To assesses analytical writing and problem-solving abilities, while also addressing data sufficiency, logic, and critical reasoning skills vital to real-world business and management success in Africa The Senufo female (Debele) Myron Kunin African Art Collection Sothbey's London The ‘Senufo’ above, a few weeks ago was sold at Sotheby’s in London for over KES 1 billion, a bargain, reason being that it is regarded as a pinnacle of the abstract arts particularly depictions of cubism and geometric form in the most masterful style that was used as a basis to train the more renown abstract contemporaries such as Pablo Picasso who best attempted to imitate and elucidate to humankind, the quality of such works of art. One may explain away the arts complexity/simplicity as “a parallel to E=MC2 “to those uninitiated to the arts. Or in more down-to-earth terms, ”The Master Senufo Curver”, was the forbearer of a parallel form of knowledge to other forms such as atomic physics, music, geometry, e.t.c, because to the artist and aficionado, cubism is a “ form” and truly valuable means of communication, just like 4G internet or alphabet. Quiz 1; Value of Knowledge Question 1. Do you “understand” the above in italics? A) Yes B) No C) Not sure Question 2. Attempt to rephrase the above in italics in ONE sentence The master was an early 20th century or late 19th century artist, the “Master of Sikasso”, a designate for the world’s greatest cubism/abstract artist, who was most likely murdered by Europeans in the colonial scramble for Africa, where his kind were throughout Africa, labeled “witchdoctor” and killed. The remnants of these arts were eventually bought and kept by appreciative museums, galleries, art schools and the very wealthy aficionados in America and Europe who understood the works. Joseph Murumbi, Kenya’s ‘intellectual’ first Vice President salvaged some Senufos which are on display at Kenya National Archives including a possibly priceless ceremonial headgear that much resembles the work of “The Master”. Meru Holiness
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,554
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COMMENT MURUMBI COLLECTION; A truly remarkable unprotected (you will see people touch the bare artefacts all the time) collection of African heritage actually worth several billions left to the largely uninformed “stuck in jam” bunch of the ‘most intelligent in Africa’ Nairobi people, who pay much more consideration to the British premier league, DVD series, movies, building “unplanned” buildings, facebook, pizza joints, kuku porno, staring at stock prices in blue section wazua, rip vodka, and street comedians just a few feet away from the empty galleries frequented mostly by, you guessed it, European westerners, entry charges, a meager KES 50/-! Maybe someone will/has take (n) something worth billions there, and no-one will know or care as it is not beneficial to “over- nyegesized” Kenyan political thinking of value and wealth? If you have never seen something worth a billion bucks that you can steal, rush there!Quiz 2. Sema Senufo? Bakuba? Dogon? Queen Ida’s Masks? Vigongo? Kenyan Kuta Golds? e.t.c Is this wealth? Question 1. Comment on the accuracy of the comment in italics (maximum 15 words).Meru Holiness
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,554
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At another Sotheby’s sale, was a 15th Century Luba caryatid “Female Stool”, just edging below a billion shillings. Several of these stools, amongst which, perhaps the Kisii, Kikuyu, Miji Kenda, Taita, or Luhya, according to ‘our GHC’ level history, may have used to precisely trace their ancestral lineage in the Congo, by names, were burnt. According to various studies, including King Leopolds Ghost by Congo Historian, Adam Hochschild, Belgium’s King Leopold in pursuit of genocidal European racist ideologies common in Africa and Australia at the time, murdered over 10 million of long drawn communities historical inhabitants of the Congo (including some “peaceful & more civilized” communities, admired artist, doctors, historians, musicians, mathematicians, physicists and chemist labeled savage witches and monkeys) erasing an entire history, stealing tones of gold, gems, minerals, timber and food (all still ongoing), destroyed and totally impoverished beautiful wealthy cultures, knowledge and priceless artifacts, manuscripts, all commencing at about the same time the European Holocaust was taking place under the same “racist” fervor. COMMENT; Oh, Congolese, the masters of the arts, music, and dance, the repository of African foods, hunters, pygmies, gorillas, goldsmith and even Philosophy , today is an “idiotic African shadow” of some of its heritage, a totally “enfoolished” people.The added intrinsic value of these stools “in today’s terms” apart from their refinement as works of arts commissioned by royalty/rich families from the finest artist in the community lays in the secrets they reveal about some of the communities in Africa, such as amongst the Luba, and the women’s role in leadership. The stools were used in reciting the lineage centuries down the line, as each head/generation, had their own stool, through the curved qualities of the matriarchs who “held up” the society. In essence, these artifacts were in total a very good, pretty reliable big “book”, an African bible so to speak, taken apart, at whose pleasure? Assignment 1 Research on what artifacts “worth billions” were taken within your community, snatched/sold from/by your “great-grandparents”,was anyone killed/hurt in the process and how? where are the artifacts now? Describe Waiyaki wa Hingas stool My answer in much later upcoming class. Next Class: Introduction to Knowledge Management;
Meru Holiness
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