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jaggernaut
#71 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2015 5:36:51 PM
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mawinder wrote:
Nandwa wrote:
Attempting to sanitise RAO is an effort in futility.
The guy got issues.
But again we need to fair to him, I am convinced that he got some decent education. I also dont doubt that he taught at the UoN.

Mgala muuwe lakini haki yake mpe!

It helps not to be like some wazuans who have made a career out of bashing and blaming the guy for anything and everything.
For the record I believe that he was involved in the 82 coup. To an unbiased mind, the info in public domain point to that as a high probability.

Using Moi issues to cover for or absolve RAO from th all too obvious pointers is to expose oneself.

RAO is no Angel.

The big question is whether he has a degree, whom he taught at the university and if he has any children of his own!!!!!!!!!


Waaaah....
Alba
#72 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2015 6:25:46 PM
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Nandwa wrote:


Another conspiracy theory - that moi masterminded the 82 coup!
I never said anybody had said that RAO is an Angel.
That aside all can see for themselves who is fashioning oneself as a RAO apologist!



Its not a conspiracy theory. The Daily nation and various news outlets have reported that Moi knew of a coup plot as did numerous people in the intelligence community and elsewhere. The Daily Nation interviewed several people and concluded that the coup plotters did a lousy job of hiding their plans.

As I posited above, Lt Gen Njoroge says he told Moi in July and asked for permission to arrest the coup plotters. Moi had the option of stopping all that bloodshed. But he refused. He wanted the coup to happen.

In fact the Nation article stated that Moi's intelligence group were laughing at the idea that anyone in the Airforce could stage a coup let alone two junior officers.

Quote:
ICC has already let off 4 out of Ocampo 6. Going by this wisdom, they are all as white as cotton!


Anyone with half a brain knows that the Ocampo 6 got away because they are now in power and were able to threaten witnesses many of whom simply declined to testify. Clearly this is not the case in 1982. All the suspects were in custody or in detention.

kaka2za
#73 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2015 6:33:48 PM
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Rumour has it that all students taught by Baba at the UON were all aboard Malaysian Airlines Flight 370!
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
murchr
#74 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2015 6:43:44 PM
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Alba wrote:
Nandwa wrote:


Another conspiracy theory - that moi masterminded the 82 coup!
I never said anybody had said that RAO is an Angel.
That aside all can see for themselves who is fashioning oneself as a RAO apologist!

ICC has already let off 4 out of Ocampo 6. Going by this wisdom, they are all as white as cotton!



Its not a conspiracy theory. The Daily nation and various news outlets have reported that Moi knew of a coup plot as did numerous people in the intelligence community and elsewhere. As I posited above, Lt Gen Njoroge says he told Moi and asked for permission to arrest the coup plotters. Moi had the option of stopping all that bloodshed.

Anyone with half a brain knows that the Ocampo 6 got away because they are now in power and were able to threaten witnesses many of whom simply declined to testify. Clearly this is not the case in 1982. All the suspects were in custody or in detention.



He knew of a coup plot then he masterminded it?

Who was my English teacher Shame on you
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Nandwa
#75 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2015 6:52:20 PM
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Henry Kosgey, Mjr Ali, F.Muthaura were all let off before 2013 elections.

Not being nailed by prosecution/invsestigation does not necessarilly mean one is not culpable in reality.

T
And this is not peculiar to any particular individual or Country.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Nandwa
#76 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2015 7:12:04 PM
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Kibaki adminsration was aware well before 2007 that RAO and his then henchmen were plotting violence after the elections.
Shall we also take it that Kibaki masterminded PEV!
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Alba
#77 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2015 10:46:47 PM
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Nandwa wrote:
Henry Kosgey, Mjr Ali, F.Muthaura were all let off before 2013 elections.

Not being nailed by prosecution/invsestigation does not necessarilly mean one is not culpable in reality.

T
And this is not peculiar to any particular individual or Country.



And that has zero to do with this debate.
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