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Rank: Member Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 326 Location: Nairobi
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Having been out of motor market for quite some years, it is frustrating to get back and buy a nice car.
Functional car (with great extras), respectable/ neck turning model, which would feel nice for 5 years, not more than 2k cc - all that under 1 m.
Ideas, ladies and gentlemen.
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@wa P If importing is an option, have a look at www.autotrader.co.uk for some options. I am sure someone else will suggest other sources but where you source from is entirely up to you. European? Japanese? All depends on your taste really. My suggestions: Option 1: VW Passat Approximate duty for 2003 model: KES 396,983 Other costs (JEVIC inspection,Freight to Mombasa): £1025 - £1045 Option 2: Avensis Approximate duty for 2ltr 2003 model: KES 375,768 Other costs (JEVIC inspection,Freight to Mombasa): £1025 - £1045 Note that if you are using a clearing agent in Kenya, they will charge for their services, though minimal. There are a few KIFWA registered ones which I can recommend though you are at liberty to appoint your own agent. Given that the pound is low at the moment, your total cost may be slightly lower than KES 1M. **This is however subject to how much you source the car for and the prevailing exchange rate. My services: Please refer to my posting http://wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=6135 for detailed explanation. If you need further information, call me on l/l +442082575215 or call/sms me on +447983556472.Alternatively, if you have relatives in UK, get them to call me or come and meet me for detailed discussion.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/2/2007 Posts: 536
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If buying from within Kenya - Toyota Allion or Premio (same car inside but Allion targets a younger crowd), Subaru Legacy
I'd also consider Oyster's options - they look especially reasonable.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2007 Posts: 816
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Oyster wrote:@wa P
Option 1: VW Passat Approximate duty for 2003 model: KES 396,983 Other costs (JEVIC inspection,Freight to Mombasa): £1025 - £1045
Option 2: Avensis Approximate duty for 2ltr 2003 model: KES 375,768 Other costs (JEVIC inspection,Freight to Mombasa): £1025 - £1045
If you choose to import, the final value can be affected by the first of the date of registration. Going by the examples given by Oyster above duty as shown above (375,768) for the Toyota will for a vehicle 1st registered before March 2003... ..but if you went for one registered after March 2003 then the duty will jump to KES.501,024. So it could work out cheaper to buy an earlier registration date car even if the initial value is slightly more than a post-march registered car.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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JkMwatha wrote:Oyster wrote:@wa P
Option 1: VW Passat Approximate duty for 2003 model: KES 396,983 Other costs (JEVIC inspection,Freight to Mombasa): £1025 - £1045
Option 2: Avensis Approximate duty for 2ltr 2003 model: KES 375,768 Other costs (JEVIC inspection,Freight to Mombasa): £1025 - £1045
If you choose to import, the final value can be affected by the first of the date of registration. Going by the examples given by Oyster above duty as shown above (375,768) for the Toyota will for a vehicle 1st registered before March 2003... ..but if you went for one registered after March 2003 then the duty will jump to KES.501,024. So it could work out cheaper to buy an earlier registration date car even if the initial value is slightly more than a post-march registered car. JK Mwatha Howz the UK, hope you are good. How much will it cost me to land a 2003 or 2004 Audi A6, I am really impressed with this car and must bring one over ASAP Oyster CARD!!! please comment as well "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/2/2007 Posts: 536
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@JKMwatha - i think I asked u the same qn sometimes ago as Obi 1 Kanobi .. but I'm curious as to current A6 prices.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2007 Posts: 816
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@ Obi 1- UK is 'effing' cold! Did you ever do your duty free thing? (+@tuvok) A6 depending on Model prices can vary and so can duty. I will assume 2003 AUDI A6 1.8 T SE 4dr Multitronic Saloon (semi-auto) good mileage.. approx 50-60k mls Purchase price KES 775,000 (assumed) Shipping/inspection 120,000 Duty KES 509,726. Total 1,404,726There's also clearing agent fees approx 50k. Duty on the same car late 2003/early 2004 model KES 679,634. If you go for the very basic 1.8L manual 2003 model duty falls to 447,797.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/17/2010 Posts: 29
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@JkMwatha, Obi 1 Kanobi and tuvok,
I have noticed that the CRSPs provided by KRA for A6 are not exhaustive, they do not cover all the models, and no diesel ones are included.
Once you identify your car, b4 you buy, I suggest you double check with your clearing agent what CRSP they will be using as you don't want to be shocked or pay wrong figure. Paying insufficient duty can incur a fine.
Your total cost will be subject to prevailing exchange rate.
Obi 1..by the way, TFL had to ask for my permission to use OYSTER...Royalties are in order.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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JkMwatha wrote:@ Obi 1- UK is 'effing' cold!
Did you ever do your duty free thing?
(+@tuvok) A6 depending on Model prices can vary and so can duty. I will assume 2003 AUDI A6 1.8 T SE 4dr Multitronic Saloon (semi-auto) good mileage.. approx 50-60k mls Purchase price KES 775,000 (assumed) Shipping/inspection 120,000 Duty KES 509,726. Total 1,404,726
There's also clearing agent fees approx 50k.
Duty on the same car late 2003/early 2004 model KES 679,634.
If you go for the very basic 1.8L manual 2003 model duty falls to 447,797.
@ JK, I didn't try the duty free stunt  quot; thank God coz i would now be crying. I got an opportunity to return immeadiately and I did not have a car then. People advised me to buy a car and have it backdated to a year plus to avoid duty but I new better. A pal did the same thing and to date 8 months down the line, his car is still stuck at the port attracting demurrage etc. The cost of the A6 is certainly as I expected, although I definitely want a diesel, would duty on the diesel be higher or lower. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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Oyster wrote:@JkMwatha, Obi 1 Kanobi and tuvok,
I have noticed that the CRSPs provided by KRA for A6 are not exhaustive, they do not cover all the models, and no diesel ones are included.
Once you identify your car, b4 you buy, I suggest you double check with your clearing agent what CRSP they will be using as you don't want to be shocked or pay wrong figure. Paying insufficient duty can incur a fine.
Your total cost will be subject to prevailing exchange rate.
Obi 1..by the way, TFL had to ask for my permission to use OYSTER...Royalties are in order. Oyster, glad the naming rights are bringing in extra bread I was also looking at the CRSP and could not help noticing that the prices of the A6 are lower than some 3 series BMW's, are they accurate? the BMW is certainly a car on the go but the A6 is definitely on a higher level. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2007 Posts: 816
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:@ JK, I didn't try the duty free stunt  quot; thank God coz i would now be crying. I got an opportunity to return immeadiately and I did not have a car then. People advised me to buy a car and have it backdated to a year plus to avoid duty but I new better. A pal did the same thing and to date 8 months down the line, his car is still stuck at the port attracting demurrage etc. The cost of the A6 is certainly as I expected, although I definitely want a diesel, would duty on the diesel be higher or lower. True dat! I know a few people who have tried to pull the move... which backfired then... paid bribes...paid fines... paid storage... then paid duty. Now if that does not lead to heart failure, then I dont know what does. KRA are in contact with DVLA and will get details of when the logbook was produced. I have known KRA to contact garages shown on the stamps of the Service History book to check who actually paid for the service. The British by nature are so happy to help with such info. The backdating is still done... but your story has to be watertight. I for one, wouldn't bother. Duty on the A6 diesel will not be far off the petrol version. As KRA dont have the figures for the diesel version, they tend go give duty figures for the nearest petrol version esp. engine size. & if it falls between two figures, as usual KRA will go for the higher figure. For example I am sending in a LR Discovery III 4.4L V8 SE. On the KRA list it does not exist. But it falls between the 4.0 SE (ksh8m) and 4.4 HSE (ksh11m). Now you can guess which figure they chose to caculate duty. I expect to pay ksh2.33m rather than 1.95m. As Oyster said above 'Check before you Buy'. Contact an agent or KRA.
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