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guru267 wrote:¿ wrote:guru267 wrote:¿ wrote:guru267 wrote:¿ wrote:guru267 wrote:
Allah=Yahweh=Jehovah
Yahweh has a son = Allah has a son If you disagree,can Allah save himself from Yahweh? Yahweh's/Allahs "sons" are His unique creations and are not begotten as represented by the pagan Paul. Adam is His unique creation/son = luke 3:38 Angels are His unique creations/sons = job 2:1 Christ is His unique creation/son = John 10:36 Yahweh is not Allah - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=670116#post670116
The only recourse left to you is to call Paul a pagan - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=659177#post659177
You are almost committing shirk by saying Yahweh=Allah and at the same time trying to convince @Lolest they are different beings. The question still stands, can Allah save himself from Yahweh? Why do you deny that "son" means "unique creation"? Did Christ tell you he was begotten? Allah=Yahweh=Jehovah Did Yahweh say He is Allah? Unique creation is a feeble attempt not to commit shirk. The Quran is clear Allah has no son(daughters is debatable).Yahweh does. They are not the same being. Can Allah save himself from Yahweh? Yahweh is Hebrew, Allah is Arabic, Ngai is Kikuyu, Mungu is Swhahili. Allah has not BEGOTTEN son but he has unique creations who the bible refers to as sons aka Adam, the angels and Christ. Yahweh=Allah=Jehovah I'll try to make it simple. Yahweh has a Son. Jesus is the Son of God. Allah doesn't have a son. Believing Jesus is the Son of God is an unforgivable sin in Islam. Two different beings. Can Allah save himself from Yahweh?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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¿ wrote:guru267 wrote:¿ wrote:guru267 wrote:¿ wrote:guru267 wrote:¿ wrote:guru267 wrote:
Allah=Yahweh=Jehovah
Yahweh has a son = Allah has a son If you disagree,can Allah save himself from Yahweh? Yahweh's/Allahs "sons" are His unique creations and are not begotten as represented by the pagan Paul. Adam is His unique creation/son = luke 3:38 Angels are His unique creations/sons = job 2:1 Christ is His unique creation/son = John 10:36 Yahweh is not Allah - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=670116#post670116
The only recourse left to you is to call Paul a pagan - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=659177#post659177
You are almost committing shirk by saying Yahweh=Allah and at the same time trying to convince @Lolest they are different beings. The question still stands, can Allah save himself from Yahweh? Why do you deny that "son" means "unique creation"? Did Christ tell you he was begotten? Allah=Yahweh=Jehovah Did Yahweh say He is Allah? Unique creation is a feeble attempt not to commit shirk. The Quran is clear Allah has no son(daughters is debatable).Yahweh does. They are not the same being. Can Allah save himself from Yahweh? Yahweh is Hebrew, Allah is Arabic, Ngai is Kikuyu, Mungu is Swhahili. Allah has not BEGOTTEN son but he has unique creations who the bible refers to as sons aka Adam, the angels and Christ. Yahweh=Allah=Jehovah I'll try to make it simple. Yahweh has a Son. Jesus is the Son of God. Allah doesn't have a son. Believing Jesus is the Son of God is an unforgivable sin in Islam. Two different beings. Can Allah save himself from Yahweh? Jesus, Adam and the angels are the sons aka unique creations of Allah/Yahweh and are created and NOT begotten. Capital letters do not exist in Hebrew, Aramaic or Arabic so do not try using them to prove anything. Yahweh=Allah=Jehovah Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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guru267 wrote:Lolest! wrote:guru267 wrote:Lolest! wrote:Quote:And I repeat, the Almighty will do with me whatever He wills, whenever He wills and however He wills...  he can decide to save man by becoming man and dying on a cross? Why does the Almighty need to go through all that? Because He is the Almighty? His ways are above our ways? Should we then following your reasoning ask why God can't end suffering and sin like the atheists ask? But you claim the blood of "Christ" aka Judas saved the world... My question is how??? Or do you just say it for the sake of saying?? I would only believe Jehovah became a man only and only if the man himself had explicitly said the below. 1. That he is the creator of the heavens and the earth. 2. That he is Almighty. 3. That he is worthy of worship. 4. That he is all knowing. You havent answered.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:guru267 wrote:Lolest! wrote:guru267 wrote:Lolest! wrote:Quote:And I repeat, the Almighty will do with me whatever He wills, whenever He wills and however He wills... he can decide to save man by becoming man and dying on a cross? Why does the Almighty need to go through all that? Because He is the Almighty? His ways are above our ways? Should we then following your reasoning ask why God can't end suffering and sin like the atheists ask? But you claim the blood of "Christ" aka Judas saved the world... My question is how??? Or do you just say it for the sake of saying?? I would only believe Jehovah became a man only and only if the man himself had explicitly said the below. 1. That he is the creator of the heavens and the earth. 2. That he is Almighty. 3. That he is worthy of worship. 4. That he is all knowing. You havent answered. All sin and suffering will end with the second coming of Christ the Messiah, simple! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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@guru267 Matthew 3:17 - And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Quran 9:30 - The Jews say Ezra is the son of God, while the Christians say the Messiah is the son of God. Such are their assertions, by which they imitate the infidels of old. God confound them! How perverse they are Yahweh has a Son. Allah doesn't. Allah hates Jews and Christians because they worship Yahweh. - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=659177#post659177
Can Allah save himself from Yahweh?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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¿ wrote:@guru267 Mark 3:17 - And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Quran 9:30 - The Jews say Ezra is the son of God, while the Christians say the Messiah is the son of God. Such are their assertions, by which they imitate the infidels of old. God confound them! How perverse they are Yahweh has a Son. Allah doesn't. Allah hates Jews and Christians because they worship Yahweh. - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=659177#post659177
Can Allah save himself from Yahweh? Mark 3:17 - And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved unique creation, in whom I am well pleased. Capital letters mean nothing and are non existent in Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic. Yahweh/Allah has no begotten son. Yahweh=Allah=Jehovah Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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guru267 wrote:¿ wrote:@guru267 Mark 3:17 - And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Quran 9:30 - The Jews say Ezra is the son of God, while the Christians say the Messiah is the son of God. Such are their assertions, by which they imitate the infidels of old. God confound them! How perverse they are Yahweh has a Son. Allah doesn't. Allah hates Jews and Christians because they worship Yahweh. - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=659177#post659177
Can Allah save himself from Yahweh? Mark 3:17 - And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved unique creation, in whom I am well pleased. Capital letters mean nothing and are non existent in Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic. Yahweh/Allah has no begotten son. Yahweh=Allah=Jehovah To beget - to bring forth - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=659201#post659201
1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Can Allah save himself from Yahweh?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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¿ wrote:guru267 wrote:¿ wrote:@guru267 Mark 3:17 - And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Quran 9:30 - The Jews say Ezra is the son of God, while the Christians say the Messiah is the son of God. Such are their assertions, by which they imitate the infidels of old. God confound them! How perverse they are Yahweh has a Son. Allah doesn't. Allah hates Jews and Christians because they worship Yahweh. - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=659177#post659177
Can Allah save himself from Yahweh? Mark 3:17 - And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved unique creation, in whom I am well pleased. Capital letters mean nothing and are non existent in Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic. Yahweh/Allah has no begotten son. Yahweh=Allah=Jehovah To beget - to bring forth - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=659201#post659201
1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Can Allah save himself from Yahweh? Christ = Anointed with the Holy Spirit Qur'an 2:87 wrote:We gave Jesus the son of Mary clear (signs) and stengthened him with the Holy Spirit Islam believes Jesus is Christ! The only ones who do not believe Jesus is Christ are those Jews who you love so much  Yahweh=Allah=Jehovah Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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guru267 wrote:¿ wrote:guru267 wrote:¿ wrote:@guru267 Mark 3:17 - And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Quran 9:30 - The Jews say Ezra is the son of God, while the Christians say the Messiah is the son of God. Such are their assertions, by which they imitate the infidels of old. God confound them! How perverse they are Yahweh has a Son. Allah doesn't. Allah hates Jews and Christians because they worship Yahweh. - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=659177#post659177
Can Allah save himself from Yahweh? Mark 3:17 - And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved unique creation, in whom I am well pleased. Capital letters mean nothing and are non existent in Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic. Yahweh/Allah has no begotten son. Yahweh=Allah=Jehovah To beget - to bring forth - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=659201#post659201
1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Can Allah save himself from Yahweh? Christ = Anointed with the Holy Spirit Qur'an 2:87 wrote:We gave Jesus the son of Mary clear (signs) and stengthened him with the Holy Spirit Islam believes Jesus is Christ! The only ones who do not believe Jesus is Christ are those Jews who you love so much Yahweh=Allah=Jehovah Does that mean you hate Jews like Allah? Yahweh=Jehovah ≠Allah You have proved this yourself even denying Yahweh's words. Islam believes in a different Jesus Christ. That is what you were telling @Lolest!. Can Allah save himself from Yahweh?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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¿ wrote:guru267 wrote:¿ wrote:guru267 wrote:¿ wrote:@guru267 Mark 3:17 - And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Quran 9:30 - The Jews say Ezra is the son of God, while the Christians say the Messiah is the son of God. Such are their assertions, by which they imitate the infidels of old. God confound them! How perverse they are Yahweh has a Son. Allah doesn't. Allah hates Jews and Christians because they worship Yahweh. - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=659177#post659177
Can Allah save himself from Yahweh? Mark 3:17 - And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved unique creation, in whom I am well pleased. Capital letters mean nothing and are non existent in Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic. Yahweh/Allah has no begotten son. Yahweh=Allah=Jehovah To beget - to bring forth - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=659201#post659201
1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Can Allah save himself from Yahweh? Christ = Anointed with the Holy Spirit Qur'an 2:87 wrote:We gave Jesus the son of Mary clear (signs) and stengthened him with the Holy Spirit Islam believes Jesus is Christ! The only ones who do not believe Jesus is Christ are those Jews who you love so much Yahweh=Allah=Jehovah Does that mean you hate Jews like Allah? Yahweh=Jehovah ≠Allah You have proved this yourself even denying Yahweh's words. Islam believes in a different Jesus Christ. That is what you were telling @Lolest!. Can Allah save himself from Yahweh? By your own statement Jews are the antichrist because they believe Jesus is a bastard conman. You said it not me! Islam believes in Jesus who is Christ, Messiah, a unique creation of Yahweh/Allah, born of the virgin Mary, is seated at the right hand of Yahweh/Allah and will return to destroy the antichrist and take all sin and suffering from the earth. Yahweh=Allah=Jehovah Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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