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#11 Posted : Friday, June 19, 2015 1:00:31 PM
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whiteowl wrote:
By 2020 or earlier,with a budget of about 5 trillion, we will go the Greek way and we won't even afford to pay pensioners.We will finally realize that we can't eat politics and tribal affiliations and it will be total chaos!


Hear, hear! Applause
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heri
#12 Posted : Friday, June 19, 2015 1:13:05 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
enyands wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
The leadership structure (If the nonsense by MPigs, governors, MCAs etc. are doing can be called leadership) is top heavy and totally inefficient. The politicians don't care because they are the beneficiaries. YOU should care because you are the financier!!!

I have told you this several times and I will repeat it again, we need a much leaner structure. We need 0 - 10 counties (Personally I prefer Zero!!!). We need to reduce the the number of glorified. "kanjoras" along with their salaries. We need to reduce the number of MPigs!

NO politician will do this or even attempt it. He will not get any support from fellow politicians. They will actually try to bump him off - politically or physically!! WE are the only ones who can do it! Wakenya tugutuke!!!


this Is a good point .so as wananchi what should we do to effect the change ? Trigger referendum ama we go to the street nd say we want leaner govt

By ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!


www.cbsnews.com/news/sen...its-senate-to-save-money

atleast Senegal is leading the way. They are doing away with their senate

TNT
#13 Posted : Friday, June 19, 2015 1:22:44 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
The leadership structure (If the nonsense by MPigs, governors, MCAs etc. are doing can be called leadership) is top heavy and totally inefficient. The politicians don't care because they are the beneficiaries. YOU should care because you are the financier!!!

I have told you this several times and I will repeat it again, we need a much leaner structure. We need 0 - 10 counties (Personally I prefer Zero!!!). We need to reduce the the number of glorified "kanjoras" along with their salaries. We need to reduce the number of MPigs!

NO politician will do this or even attempt it. He will not get any support from fellow politicians. They will actually try to bump him off - politically or physically!! WE are the only ones who can do it! Wakenya tugutuke!!!


Counties like Machakos are a reflection of what devolution can achieve with the right leaders in place. Getting rid of counties, reducing the number of politicians or reducing their salaries is unlikely to make things better as long as wanton corruption and plunder of public resources remains unchecked. My two cents.
heri
#14 Posted : Friday, June 19, 2015 1:26:20 PM
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heri wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
enyands wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
The leadership structure (If the nonsense by MPigs, governors, MCAs etc. are doing can be called leadership) is top heavy and totally inefficient. The politicians don't care because they are the beneficiaries. YOU should care because you are the financier!!!

I have told you this several times and I will repeat it again, we need a much leaner structure. We need 0 - 10 counties (Personally I prefer Zero!!!). We need to reduce the the number of glorified. "kanjoras" along with their salaries. We need to reduce the number of MPigs!

NO politician will do this or even attempt it. He will not get any support from fellow politicians. They will actually try to bump him off - politically or physically!! WE are the only ones who can do it! Wakenya tugutuke!!!


this Is a good point .so as wananchi what should we do to effect the change ? Trigger referendum ama we go to the street nd say we want leaner govt

By ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!


www.cbsnews.com/news/sen...its-senate-to-save-money

atleast Senegal is leading the way. They are doing away with their senate



But ofcourse this will not happen in Kenya. When i hear Mutahi saying that politicians are a fellowship of thugs, i cannot agree more. BUt the electrorate is to be blamed more for electing thugs
heri
#15 Posted : Friday, June 19, 2015 1:29:04 PM
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heri wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
enyands wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
The leadership structure (If the nonsense by MPigs, governors, MCAs etc. are doing can be called leadership) is top heavy and totally inefficient. The politicians don't care because they are the beneficiaries. YOU should care because you are the financier!!!

I have told you this several times and I will repeat it again, we need a much leaner structure. We need 0 - 10 counties (Personally I prefer Zero!!!). We need to reduce the the number of glorified. "kanjoras" along with their salaries. We need to reduce the number of MPigs!

NO politician will do this or even attempt it. He will not get any support from fellow politicians. They will actually try to bump him off - politically or physically!! WE are the only ones who can do it! Wakenya tugutuke!!!


this Is a good point .so as wananchi what should we do to effect the change ? Trigger referendum ama we go to the street nd say we want leaner govt

By ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!


www.cbsnews.com/news/sen...its-senate-to-save-money

atleast Senegal is leading the way. They are doing away with their senate



But ofcourse this will not happen in Kenya. When i hear Mutahi saying that politicians are a fellowship of thugs, i cannot agree more. BUt the electrorate is to be blamed more for electing thugs
jerry
#16 Posted : Friday, June 19, 2015 3:49:51 PM
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Joined: 9/29/2006
Posts: 2,570
heri wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
enyands wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:

!... Wakenya tugutuke!!!


this Is a good point .so as wananchi what should we do to effect the change ? Trigger referendum ama we go to the street nd say we want leaner govt

By ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!


www.cbsnews.com/news/sen...its-senate-to-save-money

atleast Senegal is leading the way. They are doing away with their senate


How much do we stand to gain/save by abolishing the senate? Senegal is saving 1,500,000,000/=.
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newfarer
#17 Posted : Friday, June 19, 2015 3:58:17 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2010
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MaichBlack wrote:
The leadership structure (If the nonsense by MPigs, governors, MCAs etc. are doing can be called leadership) is top heavy and totally inefficient. The politicians don't care because they are the beneficiaries. YOU should care because you are the financier!!!

I have told you this several times and I will repeat it again, we need a much leaner structure. We need 0 - 10 counties (Personally I prefer Zero!!!). We need to reduce the the number of glorified "kanjoras" along with their salaries. We need to reduce the number of MPigs!

NO politician will do this or even attempt it. He will not get any support from fellow politicians. They will actually try to bump him off - politically or physically!! WE are the only ones who can do it! Wakenya tugutuke!!!




The only vestigial position is Senate. Reduce mpigs but dont touch Mca.

They are important in distributing the national cake /loot. We wouldn't have seen the tractor roaming in our estate had it not been for our mca. He is among us and he feels the pain we go through in our bad roads.
Siku za moi that loot was in one hand. At least sasa hiko mashinani.
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Lolest!
#18 Posted : Friday, June 19, 2015 4:07:53 PM
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jerry wrote:
heri wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
enyands wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:

!... Wakenya tugutuke!!!


this Is a good point .so as wananchi what should we do to effect the change ? Trigger referendum ama we go to the street nd say we want leaner govt

By ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!


www.cbsnews.com/news/sen...its-senate-to-save-money

atleast Senegal is leading the way. They are doing away with their senate


How much do we stand to gain/save by abolishing the senate? Senegal is saving 1,500,000,000/=.

Senate is easiest to scrap. But you would need both sides of the political divide to support first

Useless house
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enyands
#19 Posted : Friday, June 19, 2015 4:21:05 PM
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Posts: 2,301
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jerry wrote:
heri wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
enyands wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:

!... Wakenya tugutuke!!!


this Is a good point .so as wananchi what should we do to effect the change ? Trigger referendum ama we go to the street nd say we want leaner govt

By ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!


www.cbsnews.com/news/sen...its-senate-to-save-money

atleast Senegal is leading the way. They are doing away with their senate


How much do we stand to gain/save by abolishing the senate? Senegal is saving 1,500,000,000/=.


Given a chance I think it's the MPigs to be gotten rid of not senators . At least senators have some brains but those pigs with overgrown egos asking stupid questions like why aren't you married and some even raping women I guess they should go .
Rankaz13
#20 Posted : Friday, June 19, 2015 6:05:01 PM
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Posts: 2,841
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Lolest! wrote:
jerry wrote:
heri wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
enyands wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:

!... Wakenya tugutuke!!!


this Is a good point .so as wananchi what should we do to effect the change ? Trigger referendum ama we go to the street nd say we want leaner govt

By ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!


www.cbsnews.com/news/sen...its-senate-to-save-money

atleast Senegal is leading the way. They are doing away with their senate


How much do we stand to gain/save by abolishing the senate? Senegal is saving 1,500,000,000/=.

Senate is easiest to scrap. But you would need both sides of the political divide to support first

Useless house


I still believe we need a maximum of 150 constituencies and not more than 15 counties, if at all.
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