Boris Boyka wrote:@VVS..the economics of kenya are just unexplainable...Centum can crush to 10/- anytime within a few months. Can Berkshire do that? For Kenyan firms..You MUST get dvdnds as part of your benefits awaiting capital gain/loss. Steady Dvdnds here is an indicator of steady cash flow. Much as values of stocks world over may drop....Berkshire its gradual and signs come plus there is always an assurance of rising again. In kenya no no no no...I know you have been in the market long enough and seen the miracles of kenyan stocks valuations and prices.
Here is my take [much better explained by Warren Buffett among others]
Buffett's advice is this. If you want income from Berkshire, simply sell a small portion of your stock holdings every year. By doing so, you can put cash in your account when you need it.
Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/ar...-cm262834#ixzz3dhcTNLu5 1) Look at the portfolio holistically not in terms of number of shares but value
2) Determine how much Dividend Yield* you want. In KE, it ranges from 2-5% for most firms so let's take 5% [on the higher end].
3) Sell down 5% of your stake's value annually. This would be the same as a 5% dividend. The sales may be staggered to get an average realization.
4) As long as Centum [or any firm] continues growing its profits [& the price increases by +5%] you will be OK.
Let's use numbers:
10,000 Centum at 50 = 500,000/-
5% Dividend Yield = 500,000 x 5% = 25,000/-
Sell 500 Centum at 50 = 25,000/-
Next year, you need Centum at 52.63 (just north of 5%]
52.63 x (10,000-500) = 500,000
If Centum was to rise to 60/- then 9,500 x 60 = 570,000
You only need to sell 475 shares at 60 to get 5% Dividend Yield.
If Centum were to fall to 45/- then you need to sell more than 500 shares.
If Centum cannot make at least 12% [post-tax] on the retained earnings then you should demand a dividend & put the cash into a IFB. I believe Warren Buffett's goal is a long-term average of 15% ROE.
An alternate is for Centum to issue 1:10 bonuses very 2 years which you can sell for the 5% per year 'dividend' though sales do have costs for the shareholders.
* Williamson Tea is at an astonishing 10% this year [40/- on a share price of 400/- after the announcement]. Pre-announcement 12%. In 2015-16, if rains hold up, tea prices remain high & a weak KES = great cash profits in 2015-16. Is another mega dividend possible?
DTB pays 2% but have great Capital Gains over the past few years.
I&M paid 2.5% [less than 30% payout] but isn't likely to ask for a Rights Issue until 2017. The profits are growing nicely & adding to the NAV.
BAT has a 100% dividend payout [DPS/EPS] since it is a cash machine that can easily finance expansion through profits & loans.
http://www.morningstar.c...eocenter.aspx?id=638300
http://www.forbes.com/si...ever-tax-free-dividend/ [Not possible in Kenya]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett