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Capital Gains Tax set at 0.3% of transaction value
winmak
#21 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2015 12:50:35 PM
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newfarer wrote:
What if it is a 280%loss on kq share sale. Do i still pay the.0.3% tax?



He he... Of course... And Obiero is watching you...

Does this thing take effect immediately?
For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
newfarer
#22 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2015 1:05:43 PM
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winmak wrote:
newfarer wrote:
What if it is a 280%loss on kq share sale. Do i still pay the.0.3% tax?



He he... Of course... And Obiero is watching you...

Does this thing take effect immediately?


So this is not capital gains tax. It is a regressive transactional tax on shares which rains blows on a knocked out player . A provision should have been made for recovery of the tax paid on the loss in future profitable sales
punda amecheka
mlennyma
#23 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2015 2:33:19 PM
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winmak wrote:
newfarer wrote:
What if it is a 280%loss on kq share sale. Do i still pay the.0.3% tax?



He he... Of course... And Obiero is watching you...

Does this thing take effect immediately?

has your broker ever asked you whether you are making a profit to deduct their commission?
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
moneydust
#24 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2015 2:56:32 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
winmak wrote:
newfarer wrote:
What if it is a 280%loss on kq share sale. Do i still pay the.0.3% tax?



He he... Of course... And Obiero is watching you...

Does this thing take effect immediately?

has your broker ever asked you whether you are making a profit to deduct their commission?


Good question...this is much better than the 5% capital gains tax
Lets not grumble all the time..if anything the government has let us of the hook..
hisah
#25 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2015 4:00:13 PM
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I see Treasury finally pulled the plug on CGT yesterday as per my expectation that it was a DoA idea. My heartfelt condolences go out to the CGT backers (IMF et al). I will duly update my signature due to this change.

Back to business. This transaction tax though punitive is much better than that ill advised CGT. But the market structure is broken for any bullish fight to come from this development. GDP has to be revised down after that CBR hike. The ambitious budget will definitely crowd out the domestic money market to fund that gaping hole from reduced tax collection due to a slumping econ. The market has to price in that reality making the path of least resistance to be downwards (bearish trend).
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#26 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2015 5:48:05 PM
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guru267
#27 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2015 9:30:22 PM
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Othelo wrote:
Rotich actually gets 0.6% per transaction becuase both parties will be charged......... ama?


This tax is a withholding tax on share Sales only

Share purchases will be charged the normal commission!
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Deuteronomy 4:16
winmak
#28 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:25:33 AM
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Thanks for that madam.
For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
tkzee
#29 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:30:43 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Othelo wrote:
Rotich actually gets 0.6% per transaction becuase both parties will be charged......... ama?


This tax is a withholding tax on share Sales only

Share purchases will be charged the normal commission!


I concur with you. "Investors are now expected retain 0.3 per cent of any gains realised from the trade of shares and the brokers are expected to act as agents of KRA."
Read more at: http://www.standardmedia...ital-gains-tax?pageNo=2
But lets await further interpretation because there is a big loop hole in that.
''i can calculate the motion of heavenly bodies,but not the madness of people''-Isaac Newton
Thiong'o
#30 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:51:17 PM
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tkzee wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Othelo wrote:
Rotich actually gets 0.6% per transaction becuase both parties will be charged......... ama?


This tax is a withholding tax on share Sales only

Share purchases will be charged the normal commission!


I concur with you. "Investors are now expected retain 0.3 per cent of any gains realised from the trade of shares and the brokers are expected to act as agents of KRA."
Read more at: http://www.standardmedia...ital-gains-tax?pageNo=2
But lets await further interpretation because there is a big loop hole in that.


Rotich removed the five percent tax on capital gains arising from the selling of shares and introduced a 0.3 percent withholding tax on transaction value of the shares.
http://www.capitalfm.co....al-gains-tax-on-shares/
VituVingiSana
#31 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2015 8:25:46 PM
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So what happens to those who have already sold shares between 1 Jan - 11 Jun?
When do the new tax rule [0.3%] come into operation?
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mlennyma
#32 Posted : Friday, December 18, 2015 3:08:28 PM
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Did i hear right all this taxes will die a natural death this month? ?whats the impact on January if it's true!!!!,come bull come!!!!
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
1masha
#33 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2016 1:05:32 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Did i hear right all this taxes will die a natural death this month? ?whats the impact on January if it's true!!!!,come bull come!!!!


Thought so too, but shock on me as I try to make a payment request. My broker tells me:
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Kindly note you will be required to fill in the attached payment request form as well as the attached capital gains tax form for all the sale transactions done in 2015.

Quote:
Please note for all the sales done in 2015, you will be required to calculate CGT with 5% of the gains . 0.3% withholding tax was implemented as from January 2016.

Good judgement is often the result of experience. Experience is often the result of bad judgement - Mark Twain.
FisiLette
#34 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2016 4:31:50 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Iam still not happy,it should be 0.3% of the gain,how can you tax my capital??

Capital gains tax is what is levied on profit made from the sale.
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