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jaggernaut
#101 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2015 9:16:27 AM
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Quote:
murchr wrote:
ole3 wrote:
Swenani wrote:
[quote=murchr]In the west,the rich usually prefer not to have malls in their vicinity because they attract traffic and idlers. Will that happen in Kenya?


So us guys from Dandora are rich,we do not have a mall or a shopping complexSad Sad Sad Sad



smile Laughing out loudly a mall is a fancy market that brings city within reach Laughing out loudly tafakari d'oh! Laughing out loudly

mushrooming malls within my locale makes my ka-soil d'oh! skyrocket smile





Wrong, to the rich, shopping is an event..they take a drive to go shop..watch a movie...eat...not walk over or just cross the street to take pictures. Most malls in Kenya are filled with idlers. Would like to know how much the shops in the malls are raking in.


http://www.theguardian.c...-american-shopping-mall[/quote]


Here is an article <<<RINK>>>in response to the Guardian article. And it says the malls will not die, especially so in developing countries.

In my opinion as the nairobi CBD continues to decay and become infested with hawkers, street urchins, also maddening traffic, people will move to the malls to get goods and services that they were getting in the CBD. We should note that it is the businesses that were based at the the CBD that are relocating to the malls. Therefore if you want to do your weekly grocery shopping, you go to the nakumatt/tuskys/naivas/uchumi at the mall, shoes you go to bata at the mall, a suit you go to Sir Henry's etc at the mall, furniture/TVs the mall, text books you go to the mall, banking you go to your bank at the mall, coffee to java/ art caffe at the mall. Safaricom etc. Even to see a doctor you go to the Aga Khan Hospital clinic or Mater clinic at the mall.

Also people/families will always want a clean safe environment where they can hang out/stroll, shop/window shop, grab some lunch, meet friends, watch a movie etc, and generally unwind. Many years ago people used to travel to the CBD for that. But now people are doing it at the mall. Malls are not just shopping centres, but they also play an important social and community role.

As the town expands and people move to the surburbs, malls will follow them. Also as more people get to live in constrained/confined spaces in flats/apartments, they will need a place away from the apartment block to hang out/ walk/stroll, unwind and relax, and a mall is a perfect place. What Nairobi and the outskirts need are more malls.
jaggernaut
#102 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2015 9:30:48 AM
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C&P

Malls are on the march in many of the world’s biggest cities, including Istanbul, Mumbai, Singapore, and Dubai. Today Asia is the site of seven of the world’s 10 largest malls, in places like Beijing, Dubai, and Kuala Lumpur.

In the developing world, malls grow as local shopping streets either gentrify or decay. This is particularly true in fast-growing developing countries where malls are often seen as an escape from hot, humid, dirty and even dangerous urban environments. Indian novelist and Mumbai blogger Amit Varma suggests that these folks like malls “because they are relatively clean and sanitized” as opposed to the city’s pollution-choked, beggar-ridden and often foul-smelling streets.
Wamunyota
#103 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2015 9:49:28 AM
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One factor to consider is the culture of the people where a mall is set up.In the developed countries or even countries like SA,there is a culture of going out to eat as a family.Most consumer eat in malls-KFC,Nandos etc.In Kenya,we have a culture of eating at home.Only when we are 'treating' our loved ones or going on a date,do we take them for outing in these malls mostly over the weekend.Coffee shops like Java have become very popular due to convenience and ability to have business and personal meetings there.
Hutia Mundu!!
jaggernaut
#104 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2015 10:38:44 AM
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UpcomingPaperChaser
#105 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2015 11:37:14 AM
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Thanks a lot man, thanks a million times!! You have simplified my MBA Thesis next year!!!!! Pewa crate ya Serengeti Beer kwa bill yangu!
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#106 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2015 12:26:35 PM
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In the kenyan definition what is a mall, would the old shopping centers, where there were shops surrounding a ka central market be considered an open air mall.

Its funny, because that model has died, might point to kenyans not liking to be tethered in a specific place where they get all their stuff.

The modern malls might go that route also.
murchr
#107 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2015 2:26:53 PM
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@Jag, after closing down that one sir henry's in town, how many more can he open in the so many malls? How many clients does Sir Henry's have esp now after Kenyans learnt how to go to Turkey Dubai and China. We are not saying that all malls will die...no, rather we now have too many concentrated in one City. Even the occupancy rate is showing
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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investorinpple
#108 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2015 2:27:58 PM
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The Kenyan retail market is quite underdeveloped: Between Stalls, traditional shops, vibandas and malls, I guess malls will win! High street shopping has struggled to take root. Shops like Deacons, Mr.Price etc only seem to thrive in the mall environment. Enkarasha couldn't survive on its own in Kenyatta Ave. Not sure how Jade is doing! But I guess malls are here to stay.
murchr
#109 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:31:03 PM
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>>>>>>>> http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/c6m0rmz/-/index.html
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Boris Boyka
#110 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:52:16 PM
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Quote:
They show up there armed with a
camera and their good selfie skills. All
they do is take photos of everything,
including the guards. Why do I need to
see the guy who just searched you? Is
he new too?
“Mall-iosis” sufferers will go to each
and every business premise inside the
mall just to touch and see things and
then head back home. They will even
enter a restaurant just to check the
prices and not buy anything even if the
items offered are affordable.
Once their tour is over, they will flood
their social media platforms with their
photos, you would think they are
National Geographic cameramen after a
trip to the Maasai Mara.
Thereafter, mall-iosis sufferers will
then gush about the new place, you
would think they helped build it, and
will take so much pride in it, one
would be forgiven for think they will
get a cut of the profits.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
kayhara
#111 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:40:23 PM
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Its a weekend and I don't see many people at the garden city, even the predicted jam is not there although it's boring to drive in from the other side of the road
To Each His Own
MaichBlack
#112 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:11:10 AM
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kayhara wrote:
Its a weekend and I don't see many people at the garden city, even the predicted jam is not there although it's boring to drive in from the other side of the road

How good are your selfie skills?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudly
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
jaggernaut
#113 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:28:47 AM
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kayhara wrote:
Its a weekend and I don't see many people at the garden city, even the predicted jam is not there although it's boring to drive in from the other side of the road


The "sightseeing" crowds took enough selfies last week. What we have now are the serious shoppers.
Boris Boyka
#114 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:08:58 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
kayhara wrote:
Its a weekend and I don't see many people at the garden city, even the predicted jam is not there although it's boring to drive in from the other side of the road

How good are your selfie skills?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudly

tour is over, he will flood
his social media platforms with his
photos, you would think he is a
National Geographic cameramen after a
trip to the Maasai Mara. Lets check his platforms.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
kayhara
#115 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:04:15 AM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
kayhara wrote:
Its a weekend and I don't see many people at the garden city, even the predicted jam is not there although it's boring to drive in from the other side of the road

How good are your selfie skills?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudly

tour is over, he will flood
his social media platforms with his
photos, you would think he is a
National Geographic cameramen after a
trip to the Maasai Mara. Lets check his platforms.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Lol got me,Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I actually didn't go to buy anything just to see what all this hype is an being in construction to see the quality of the building,I didn't take any selfies since all I could see were semi-naked high school age girls in groups on the corridors.
To Each His Own
hardwood
#116 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:51:08 PM
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Safaricom has bought a 5 acre piece at Garden City to put up its headquarters. Building to be ready in June 2018.

http://gardencity-nairob.../about-2/business-park/

https://vimeo.com/147090452



hardwood
#117 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:55:56 PM
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Meanwhile a brand new mall, Vintage Mall, coming up at Roasters, next to Uchumi Jipange and Mountain mall.







moneydust
#118 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:31:31 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Meanwhile a brand new mall, Vintage Mall, coming up at Roasters, next to Uchumi Jipange and Mountain mall.










How can such an area handle three malls in todays' economy?? What a Dud investment.
Ericsson
#119 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:05:18 PM
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Anchor tenant ni nani?
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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#120 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2016 5:29:56 PM
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Have you ever heard of market segmentation ?.

They are not serving the same segments and thus how far they are from one another does not really matter.
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