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#1 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:02:52 PM
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It looks like Nam is fed up with the chinese,first they came in droves,we thought they could stay but they didnt...we gave them construction tenders no they were not happy now theyre selling nyama choma on the streets...Kenya watch out.
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#2 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 7:14:29 AM
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#3 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 7:57:49 AM
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Real. There is this chinese dude who set up a small optical shop in a alley behind Akamba bus (next to Marble Arch Hotel. His rates are very low. Aat most he has invested 0.5m. At this rate, these guys will run our hawkers out of town.
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#4 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 8:08:20 AM
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ehe..
Where are the oriental proponents.. shida kwetu..
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#5 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 8:15:49 AM
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@Gathinga,
May be the dude is a 'Kenyan' as in he has married a local girl?
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#6 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 8:37:26 AM
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gathinga wrote:
Real. There is this chinese dude who set up a small optical shop in a alley behind Akamba bus (next to Marble Arch Hotel. His rates are very low. Aat most he has invested 0.5m. At this rate, these guys will run our hawkers out of town.

Where exactly? The way I get ripped off for even small repairs/screws by akina Optica...

Once I damaged my specs in Mombasa... the optician was so expensive (on the main street)... I was then referred a back alley guy (duka & all) who did a great job at 50%...

My gut tells me the main street guy sent the specs to the back alley guy...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#7 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 8:40:53 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
gathinga wrote:
Real. There is this chinese dude who set up a small optical shop in a alley behind Akamba bus (next to Marble Arch Hotel. His rates are very low. Aat most he has invested 0.5m. At this rate, these guys will run our hawkers out of town.

Where exactly? The way I get ripped off for even small repairs/screws by akina Optica...

Once I damaged my specs in Mombasa... the optician was so expensive (on the main street)... I was then referred a back alley guy (duka & all) who did a great job at 50%...

My gut tells me the main street guy sent the specs to the back alley guy...


@VVS.
Next to that Akamba booking office, you go upstairs as if going to Antonio restaurant. Its on the same floor. Very quality stuff @ good rates
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#8 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 8:46:32 AM
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@gathinga - How did u find this jamaa???
Asante for the tip!
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#9 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 10:48:19 AM
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Poundfoolish,
Why the panic??.....We can always find a way of making the Chinese stick to big ventures,roads and bridges.The sooner we do it the better....BTW,now that someone has said it,i know of a Chinese fellow who is doing retail clothe/shoes hawking in Nyanza and Western towns.He travels around with his Chinese wife in a Toyota Carina.
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#10 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 11:12:17 AM
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I really like their attitude/culture towards business.They are the type where if you want an item its available they give you the best rates and of course what else would you as a customer want.If one of our own has an item and is selling at double the price and the chinese fellow is giving u the same at half the price, then why not buy from them.

There is a lot to learn from them than burying our heads that they dont exist.But trust kenyans to beat them in their own game.Remember the dukawallahs.We can still drive them out of town and follow them to Inda as the the latter have done.
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#11 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 11:41:28 AM
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@VVs. How I got to know the dude is even more scaring. When I went to Lions eye hospital in Loresho, one of the staff there pulled me aside and told me i could get the same glasses for 1/3 cost. I never regret the decision
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#12 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 11:54:54 AM
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gathinga wrote:
@VVs. How I got to know the dude is even more scaring. When I went to Lions eye hospital in Loresho, one of the staff there pulled me aside and told me i could get the same glasses for 1/3 cost. I never regret the decision

LOL... Imagine that... And the Lions Camps are supposed to be 'free'... unless they use the proceeds to subsidise the camps themselves...
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#13 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 12:25:41 PM
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vvs. I think you have ignored or failed to see the point I was on. At this rate, these chinese dudes will station guys at peoples biasharas directing them to their cheaper alternatives, and the famed kuk business savy will be a thing of the past.....wasapere watandikwa na hawa
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#14 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 12:30:23 PM
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gathinga wrote:
vvs. I think you have ignored or failed to see the point I was on. At this rate, these chinese dudes will station guys at peoples biasharas directing them to their cheaper alternatives, and the famed kuk business savy will be a thing of the past.....wasapere watandikwa na hawa

I was not ignoring what u said... u were not clear... LOL...

When u said 'staff pulled u aside' I thot it was someone from Lions Camp who told you so...
Wow... the chutzpah/balls to have one of your staff solicit customers from the line at a Eye Camp!!!
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#15 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 12:34:30 PM
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@vvs. The chick is an employee of lions but takes commissions from the chinese dude. I asked her how she knows who to approach (so it doesnt go bad) and she was like 'you can always tell'
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#16 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 12:40:17 PM
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@Njung'e
no panic just that i smell the invasion way before..
The first insinuations started by fellows from the tourism industry..

The sino-tourists dont spend and dont tour.. they board a KQ yes.. then land in the country book one room, ask for the bed to be removed, they sleep on mats on the floor (thats like 5 of em)

When it comes to meals they only order for hot water at which they dip that slimy stuff of theirs..noodles, and call it a meal.

as a tourvan driver or hotel support staff you have to contend with more than enuff back aching bows instead of usual dollar bill tip.

as for their businesses they dont even hire your local 'njoroge' to drive those 'tipper' vehicles...
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#17 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 1:07:31 PM
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i like their frugal ways of doing biz..thats where the rest of the developed world is headed to if they are to compete favourably for contracts..the chinese were slow in catching up with capitalism but they are now re-defining it..
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#18 Posted : Monday, March 01, 2010 10:57:22 PM
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The problem with Kenyan professionals (as told to me by a Kenyan CEO) is that they want all the trappings of a good lifestyle without the hard work & scrimping!

Remember those Mhindis who lived above the shops?
Worked as a family unit keeping costs down as well as reduced theft?

The new Chinese immigrants will do the same...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, March 02, 2010 5:12:27 AM
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The first rule of doing business in a foreign country/region is to learn the culture and language of the people... thats what these chinese guys are doing... there is one who runs a supermarket in DC (dagorrett corner). He is fluent in swahili and so are those who are doing the roads... i see most of them staying back after completing the their road contracts... besides, kenyans are very friendly people and easy to do business with... plus anything imported is always better than local - despite poor quality...
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