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Rank: Member Joined: 10/14/2011 Posts: 661
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murchr wrote:If KQ was to quit flying today, what would these pilots do? Probably that is what they should be doing now. The pilots are his clients' and share holder No. 3
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,321 Location: nairobi
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it should be known that its not all the pilots, but a select few. problem is that some are untouchable including sons of powerful men in Kenya COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Guess how much one hotel is making for the month of March coz of such issues?90 mio... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,376 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:Guess how much one hotel is making for the month of March coz of such issues?90 mio... I wonder if that hotel is the same on the former CEO allegedly had shares in... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Which CEO is going to say the firm he is running is doomed? Do NOT conflate the Airline (KQ) with the Shareholders (You). What's good for Mbuvi, the pilots, the crew, the (non-shareholder) directors, the government and the lenders is NOT always good for the SHAREHOLDERS. Will KQ survive? Yes. It's a political thing. Will (ordinary) shareholders be wiped out? Probably. Mbuvi is talking about the AIRLINE not the shareholders capital/equity. Mbuvi: Hefty monthly salary + Perks Pilots + Crew: Hefty monthly salary + Perks Directors: Perks e.g. free flights GoK: VAT, Excise, PAYE, etc Banks: Interest Income, Fees, etc Shareholders: No dividends, no profits, no capital appreciation, no growth in NAV. KQ makes money for everyone one else but the shareholder! Add tenderprenuers to the list. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,321 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Which CEO is going to say the firm he is running is doomed? Do NOT conflate the Airline (KQ) with the Shareholders (You). What's good for Mbuvi, the pilots, the crew, the (non-shareholder) directors, the government and the lenders is NOT always good for the SHAREHOLDERS. Will KQ survive? Yes. It's a political thing. Will (ordinary) shareholders be wiped out? Probably. Mbuvi is talking about the AIRLINE not the shareholders capital/equity. Mbuvi: Hefty monthly salary + Perks Pilots + Crew: Hefty monthly salary + Perks Directors: Perks e.g. free flights GoK: VAT, Excise, PAYE, etc Banks: Interest Income, Fees, etc Shareholders: No dividends, no profits, no capital appreciation, no growth in NAV. KQ makes money for everyone one else but the shareholder! Add tenderprenuers to the list. COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,321 Location: nairobi
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our day will soon come. past is not an indicator of future.. but recall KQ once touched KES 120 per share COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,910
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obiero wrote:I could write a thesis on this.. From gold in SA, hardwood in DRC, oil in Angola, cocoa in Ivory Coast, whitest of longbeach in Somalia.. We are simply cursed I watched a documentary on CNN about the cocoa business and the plight of farmers in Ivory Coast and it is pure Highway Robbery!!! Richard Quest did the math and the amount of money the multinationals were making and how much of that trickled back to Ivory Coast was criminal! If you look at the images of the employees and executives at the chocolate companies and then immediately after that you are shown the mages of the farm owners and workers (some of them kids) it just breaks your heart!!! What's worse, most of those interviewed (I think ALL) had never tasted chocolate in their lives. The first time was the one they were given by Richard Quest!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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obiero wrote:our day will soon come. past is not an indicator of future.. but recall KQ once touched KES 120 per share And right now it's courting 6.90 how low can it go so we buy the entire business African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,321 Location: nairobi
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Sober wrote:obiero wrote:our day will soon come. past is not an indicator of future.. but recall KQ once touched KES 120 per share And right now it's courting 6.90 how low can it go so we buy the entire business Upon release of FY, if loss before tax goes above 9.5B, we will see the share at KES 5.. But that will be the last time it ever touches that price. Obama will give KQ landing rights to the USA and the chapter titled loss, would be closed.. Take off awaits :) COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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