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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
Gordon Gekko
#1791 Posted : Saturday, May 23, 2015 9:08:13 PM
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@dailynation:
NDII: Binge investing: Lessons from KQ and Mumias. bit.ly/1JJggNi
murchr
#1792 Posted : Sunday, May 24, 2015 1:55:44 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
@dailynation:
NDII: Binge investing: Lessons from KQ and Mumias. bit.ly/1JJggNi


Quote:
So we have here two alternative investment strategies. KQ and Mumias strategy seems to be “if you build they will come”, while the Safaricom and Equity Bank strategy seems to be “when they come we shall build”. There are two reasons why shareholders of a company should be very wary of investment binges.


I disagree with his theory. When Equity was busy recruiting members and opening ATM points, acquiring branches here and there, many predicted its death due to heavy investments without the numbers and deep pocket customers. Infact Ndii himself resigned as an advisor to the bank when rumors went around that portrayed Equity as a ticking time bomb.

Truth is all these companies went on binge investing, they all raised money through the stock exchange. On investments, Equity did so aggressively in applications and technology hence the ATMs, presence of their branches everywhere and agency banking...now telecommunications. For Safcom, they also invested in technology 2G, 3G now 4G(heck how many have 3G compatible phones let alone 4G) and fiber optic cable which they continue doing yet many dont even know what that cable can do.

Yes Mumias shouldn't have invested in a water bottling plant esp since they were only thinking of water and nothing else (sparkling, mineral, purified etc) , the other investment avenues eg. Electricity, Ethanol are sound investments if well managed would have made Mumias RICH. Mumia's biggest problem is not investing on a bottling plant.. but sugar barons

KQ's biggest issue was the delay of planes by Boeing then when the planes landed the political climate changed, when they climate improved terrorists came calling, they hedged on fuel then the prices went down (missed on that) so they kept on paying more for cheap jet fuel then add those high operating costs all that equal to a DISASTER.

In this article Ndii is allover the place, he touches on the LAPSSET prog, Nokia, Tesla, geothermal you can tell he's a typical economist..."dont spend...eish, lets wait and see what will happen tomorow" mentality trying to be a strategist.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Thiong'o
#1793 Posted : Sunday, May 24, 2015 2:57:34 AM
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In these recent days am seeing lots of optimism & goodwill for KQ at least if the below response among others on a colleague's fb complaint about a delayed Eldoret flight and asking for government's intervention to avoid the airline's collapse is anything to go-by.

CP
"Poleni XX. These are challenging times for our flag carrier. I believe the company is resilient enough to overcome the tough times. The new CEO seems smart enough to steer the company back on course".
murchr
#1794 Posted : Sunday, May 24, 2015 5:05:07 AM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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enyands
#1795 Posted : Sunday, May 24, 2015 8:24:02 AM
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murchr wrote:


There is one thing I don't get . Nigeria is one of the world's top oil producer . What idiocracy is tthis.it's like having a farm of grain and your own children are dying of hunger. I won't be surprised that with all this oil popping up in Kenya bei ya mafuta will constantly be like other countries that don't produce oil. I think we have a curse in Africa. .....
winmak
#1796 Posted : Sunday, May 24, 2015 12:14:40 PM
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enyands wrote:
murchr wrote:


There is one thing I don't get . Nigeria is one of the world's top oil producer . What idiocracy is tthis.it's like having a farm of grain and your own children are dying of hunger. I won't be surprised that with all this oil popping up in Kenya bei ya mafuta will constantly be like other countries that don't produce oil. I think we have a curse in Africa. .....



Same thing with our coffee... Produced here, shipped out then back here after some processing with 5x the markup...
For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
obiero
#1797 Posted : Sunday, May 24, 2015 1:16:09 PM
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winmak wrote:
enyands wrote:
murchr wrote:


There is one thing I don't get . Nigeria is one of the world's top oil producer . What idiocracy is tthis.it's like having a farm of grain and your own children are dying of hunger. I won't be surprised that with all this oil popping up in Kenya bei ya mafuta will constantly be like other countries that don't produce oil. I think we have a curse in Africa. .....



Same thing with our coffee... Produced here, shipped out then back here after some processing with 5x the markup...

I could write a thesis on this.. From gold in SA, hardwood in DRC, oil in Angola, cocoa in Ivory Coast, whitest of longbeach in Somalia.. We are simply cursed
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
1masha
#1798 Posted : Sunday, May 24, 2015 5:24:09 PM
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Good judgement is often the result of experience. Experience is often the result of bad judgement - Mark Twain.
VituVingiSana
#1799 Posted : Sunday, May 24, 2015 5:46:22 PM
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winmak wrote:
enyands wrote:
murchr wrote:


There is one thing I don't get . Nigeria is one of the world's top oil producer . What idiocracy is tthis.it's like having a farm of grain and your own children are dying of hunger. I won't be surprised that with all this oil popping up in Kenya bei ya mafuta will constantly be like other countries that don't produce oil. I think we have a curse in Africa. .....



Same thing with our coffee... Produced here, shipped out then back here after some processing with 5x the markup...

Where do you buy your coffee?
Please respond with specifics so I can research this further.

There's plenty of 100% locally produced and 100% locally roasted coffee in Nakumatt as well as Dormans/Java shops.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
murchr
#1800 Posted : Sunday, May 24, 2015 6:12:47 PM
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1masha wrote:


If KQ was to quit flying today, what would these pilots do? Probably that is what they should be doing now.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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