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The BigBox by Safaricom
jaggernaut
#21 Posted : Monday, May 11, 2015 10:52:40 PM
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Swenani wrote:
ole3 wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
50gb is 8 hours of playing Call of Duty online. How is that unlimited?


Ngai Mwathani!


I'm telling you, the kids will finish that 50gb in 3 days max.

This big box is a midro class priced product, with masufferer bundles. You want to sell hardware for 10k, but dont have unlimited?

FAIL.



Laughing out loudly smile mboss 50gb in 8 hours, 50gb in 3days Dataguzzlers in the making d'oh!



The kids must be streaming adult movies and having internet sex


At one time I bought Safaricom 1.5gb at 1k and the kids finished it in 2hrs streaming live some UK TV channel to watch formula 1 racing. Since then I moved to orange unlimited. That 1k would have given me 1 week of orange unlimited internet.

That said, with 3 undersea fibre cables, we should be paying 1k for 1 month unlimited internet. Safaricom giving 50gb at 4k is nonsense.
murchr
#22 Posted : Monday, May 11, 2015 11:02:48 PM
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It all boils down to the devices you are using. 3G devices can stream upto about 10GB on a 30hr/month. 4G devices use up/consume higher. I would like to know how many GBs those on Zuku are consuming, even if its unlimited, they state the data usage on your bills.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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jaggernaut
#23 Posted : Monday, May 11, 2015 11:12:56 PM
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I have watched 1hr BBC documentaries at HD 720p and one ends up using about 1gb. Streaming American tv channels at 1080p uses nearly double the data.
murchr
#24 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 4:00:34 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
ole3 wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
50gb is 8 hours of playing Call of Duty online. How is that unlimited?


Ngai Mwathani!


I'm telling you, the kids will finish that 50gb in 3 days max.

This big box is a midro class priced product, with masufferer bundles. You want to sell hardware for 10k, but dont have unlimited?

FAIL.



Laughing out loudly smile mboss 50gb in 8 hours, 50gb in 3days Dataguzzlers in the making d'oh!



The kids must be streaming adult movies and having internet sex


At one time I bought Safaricom 1.5gb at 1k and the kids finished it in 2hrs streaming live some UK TV channel to watch formula 1 racing. Since then I moved to orange unlimited. That 1k would have given me 1 week of orange unlimited internet.

That said, with 3 undersea fibre cables, we should be paying 1k for 1 month unlimited internet. Safaricom giving 50gb at 4k is nonsense.


Safaricom is giving 50 GB plus 50+ TV channels for 4K not just internet.

Those with unlimited zuku should let us know how many GBs they consume in a month on avg could be less than 50

Meanwhile.........
Quote:
Pay television provider Zuku has sparked a turf war with its rivals, signalling a fresh battle for customers following Safaricom’s entry into the TV market.

DStv, another pay-TV service provider that is popular with European Football League followers, has called for a press conference today in which it is expected to announce price cuts for its decoders—in yet another signal of shifts triggered by Safaricom’s entry into the market.

Yesterday, Zuku took a swipe at its rivals in newspaper adverts, terming them “cheap in pricing and quality” and urging consumers to choose its Zuku connection.

“You saw their cheap price, now see their cheap quality,” said Zuku in the advert.


http://www.businessdaily...2/-/146p8ig/-/index.html
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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KulaRaha
#25 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 8:18:04 AM
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Bamba Tv gives the same channels as Safcom. Just one off box cost. So, safcoms tv offering isn't special or unique.

I will check my Zuku bill to see how much I'm using.

But I don't think bundles can work in this space.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
muganda
#26 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 9:14:58 AM
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In all the comments, why do I feel we're missing another point - how wide is the coverage of 4G?

It will come down to Zuku's 100 channels (+FTA) with unlimited internet on fibre/coaxial VS Safaricom's FTA with 3G bundles

KulaRaha
#27 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 9:34:29 AM
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My Zuku ebill does not show usage stats.

I dont think Bigbox is 4G, looked like it was 3G.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
watesh
#28 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 9:39:09 AM
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Posts: 969
Location: Kenya
murchr wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
ole3 wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
50gb is 8 hours of playing Call of Duty online. How is that unlimited?


Ngai Mwathani!


I'm telling you, the kids will finish that 50gb in 3 days max.

This big box is a midro class priced product, with masufferer bundles. You want to sell hardware for 10k, but dont have unlimited?

FAIL.



Laughing out loudly smile mboss 50gb in 8 hours, 50gb in 3days Dataguzzlers in the making d'oh!



The kids must be streaming adult movies and having internet sex


At one time I bought Safaricom 1.5gb at 1k and the kids finished it in 2hrs streaming live some UK TV channel to watch formula 1 racing. Since then I moved to orange unlimited. That 1k would have given me 1 week of orange unlimited internet.

That said, with 3 undersea fibre cables, we should be paying 1k for 1 month unlimited internet. Safaricom giving 50gb at 4k is nonsense.


Safaricom is giving 50 GB plus 50+ TV channels for 4K not just internet.

Those with unlimited zuku should let us know how many GBs they consume in a month on avg could be less than 50

Meanwhile.........
Quote:
Pay television provider Zuku has sparked a turf war with its rivals, signalling a fresh battle for customers following Safaricom’s entry into the TV market.

DStv, another pay-TV service provider that is popular with European Football League followers, has called for a press conference today in which it is expected to announce price cuts for its decoders—in yet another signal of shifts triggered by Safaricom’s entry into the market.

Yesterday, Zuku took a swipe at its rivals in newspaper adverts, terming them “cheap in pricing and quality” and urging consumers to choose its Zuku connection.

“You saw their cheap price, now see their cheap quality,” said Zuku in the advert.


http://www.businessdaily.../-/146p8ig/-/index.html

I have Zuku, heavy internet user.In the past 30 days I used 100gb on my laptop only. My phone maybe 1-2gb...in a house hold most users will use 30gb per person per month averagely ie if they all have laptops and like YouTube (that is what i calculated). For a family or individuals who are away during the day 50gb is enough....BUT ZUKU IS STILL KING
watesh
#29 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 9:42:13 AM
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But the internet speed will determine rate of consumption. Low internet speeds will slow down consumption. For me 50gb is enough for just one person with average youtube usage
KulaRaha
#30 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 10:02:30 AM
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watesh wrote:
But the internet speed will determine rate of consumption. Low internet speeds will slow down consumption. For me 50gb is enough for just one person with average youtube usage


Low internet speeds will negate the whole Safcom offering: how do you stream with a crappy line?

Seems I am not the only one who feels 50GB cap will not sell.

Let's wait and see...
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
geofreygachie
#31 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:00:12 AM
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Location: Republic of Enchantment.
watesh wrote:
murchr wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
ole3 wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
50gb is 8 hours of playing Call of Duty online. How is that unlimited?


Ngai Mwathani!


I'm telling you, the kids will finish that 50gb in 3 days max.

This big box is a midro class priced product, with masufferer bundles. You want to sell hardware for 10k, but dont have unlimited?

FAIL.



Laughing out loudly smile mboss 50gb in 8 hours, 50gb in 3days Dataguzzlers in the making d'oh!



The kids must be streaming adult movies and having internet sex


At one time I bought Safaricom 1.5gb at 1k and the kids finished it in 2hrs streaming live some UK TV channel to watch formula 1 racing. Since then I moved to orange unlimited. That 1k would have given me 1 week of orange unlimited internet.

That said, with 3 undersea fibre cables, we should be paying 1k for 1 month unlimited internet. Safaricom giving 50gb at 4k is nonsense.


Safaricom is giving 50 GB plus 50+ TV channels for 4K not just internet.

Those with unlimited zuku should let us know how many GBs they consume in a month on avg could be less than 50

Meanwhile.........
Quote:
Pay television provider Zuku has sparked a turf war with its rivals, signalling a fresh battle for customers following Safaricom’s entry into the TV market.

DStv, another pay-TV service provider that is popular with European Football League followers, has called for a press conference today in which it is expected to announce price cuts for its decoders—in yet another signal of shifts triggered by Safaricom’s entry into the market.

Yesterday, Zuku took a swipe at its rivals in newspaper adverts, terming them “cheap in pricing and quality” and urging consumers to choose its Zuku connection.

“You saw their cheap price, now see their cheap quality,” said Zuku in the advert.


http://www.businessdaily.../-/146p8ig/-/index.html

I have Zuku, heavy internet user.In the past 30 days I used 100gb on my laptop only. My phone maybe 1-2gb...in a house hold most users will use 30gb per person per month averagely ie if they all have laptops and like YouTube (that is what i calculated). For a family or individuals who are away during the day 50gb is enough....BUT ZUKU IS STILL KING




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kayhara
#32 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:03:48 AM
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What happened to the Safaricom fiber that was laid every where, there was one laid right outside my gate but I have not heard any offers from them apart from the pilot at Nyayo estate, If they start connecting homes on that fiber at the pilot prices of 2,999/- then that will work.
To Each His Own
McReggae
#33 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:37:28 AM
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All in all it is some good business move by Safaricom. This is not just a set top box - whose functionality is like 2% of the box.
This is in fact a very powerful signal repeater. It's like a microcell, an indoor base station that receives and amplifies safaricom signals. It also provides wifi calling. The net effect of this will be that Safaricom customers will enjoy significantly better quality calls and reception - even if you don't have the box, if one of your neighbours has it you'll get great reception.You'll note that weekends are when Safaricom has the most signal issues - and most people are at home weekends. When you plug this box in, you'll be helping Safcom improve their quality of service - and the power bill is on you........good stuff!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
butterflyke
#34 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:51:15 AM
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McReggae wrote:
All in all it is some good business move by Safaricom. This is not just a set top box - whose functionality is like 2% of the box.
This is in fact a very powerful signal repeater. It's like a microcell, an indoor base station that receives and amplifies safaricom signals. It also provides wifi calling. The net effect of this will be that Safaricom customers will enjoy significantly better quality calls and reception - even if you don't have the box, if one of your neighbours has it you'll get great reception.You'll note that weekends are when Safaricom has the most signal issues - and most people are at home weekends. When you plug this box in, you'll be helping Safcom improve their quality of service - and the power bill is on you........good stuff!!!


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watesh
#35 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:02:28 PM
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kayhara wrote:
What happened to the Safaricom fiber that was laid every where, there was one laid right outside my gate but I have not heard any offers from them apart from the pilot at Nyayo estate, If they start connecting homes on that fiber at the pilot prices of 2,999/- then that will work.

I think they connected this to their base stations so that they stop leasing fibre from other companies. Plus Safaricom used to think the home fibre internet market was not that profitable.
murchr
#36 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:06:48 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
watesh wrote:
But the internet speed will determine rate of consumption. Low internet speeds will slow down consumption. For me 50gb is enough for just one person with average youtube usage


Low internet speeds
will negate the whole Safcom offering: how do you stream with a crappy line?

Seems I am not the only one who feels 50GB cap will not sell.

Let's wait and see...


4G?

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
murchr
#37 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:11:24 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
geofreygachie wrote:
watesh wrote:
murchr wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Swenani wrote:
ole3 wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
50gb is 8 hours of playing Call of Duty online. How is that unlimited?


Ngai Mwathani!


I'm telling you, the kids will finish that 50gb in 3 days max.

This big box is a midro class priced product, with masufferer bundles. You want to sell hardware for 10k, but dont have unlimited?

FAIL.



Laughing out loudly smile mboss 50gb in 8 hours, 50gb in 3days Dataguzzlers in the making d'oh!



The kids must be streaming adult movies and having internet sex


At one time I bought Safaricom 1.5gb at 1k and the kids finished it in 2hrs streaming live some UK TV channel to watch formula 1 racing. Since then I moved to orange unlimited. That 1k would have given me 1 week of orange unlimited internet.

That said, with 3 undersea fibre cables, we should be paying 1k for 1 month unlimited internet. Safaricom giving 50gb at 4k is nonsense.


Safaricom is giving 50 GB plus 50+ TV channels for 4K not just internet.

Those with unlimited zuku should let us know how many GBs they consume in a month on avg could be less than 50

Meanwhile.........
Quote:
Pay television provider Zuku has sparked a turf war with its rivals, signalling a fresh battle for customers following Safaricom’s entry into the TV market.

DStv, another pay-TV service provider that is popular with European Football League followers, has called for a press conference today in which it is expected to announce price cuts for its decoders—in yet another signal of shifts triggered by Safaricom’s entry into the market.

Yesterday, Zuku took a swipe at its rivals in newspaper adverts, terming them “cheap in pricing and quality” and urging consumers to choose its Zuku connection.

“You saw their cheap price, now see their cheap quality,” said Zuku in the advert.


http://www.businessdaily.../-/146p8ig/-/index.html

I have Zuku, heavy internet user.In the past 30 days I used 100gb on my laptop only. My phone maybe 1-2gb...in a house hold most users will use 30gb per person per month averagely ie if they all have laptops and like YouTube (that is what i calculated). For a family or individuals who are away during the day 50gb is enough....BUT ZUKU IS STILL KING






Are you downloading movies for sale? Laughing out loudly I know someone who uses almost the same GBs (100) on average and they stream live events and watch TV from my devices huko majuu...If you do so then ZUKU is KING but for the kawaida guys 50GB should be enough
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
KulaRaha
#38 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:37:43 PM
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What's a kawaida guy? If youre not using 50gb or more, then why do you need the box? Just use a dongle or your phone.

Therein lies the error of Safaricom's logic.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
murchr
#39 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 2:57:05 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
What's a kawaida guy? If youre not using 50gb or more, then why do you need the box? Just use a dongle or your phone.

Therein lies the error of Safaricom's logic.


If a dongle works for you.....perfect! you were definitely not the target market. The kawaida guy is one person who doesn't live by their TV. Who watches TV when they want to for leisure, who doesn't have to download anything because they can watch it on demand.

The only evidence we have so far shows only one guy uses more than 50GB here on Wazua. Where are the other zuku subscribers?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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grolut
#40 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 3:53:42 PM
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geofreygachie wrote:




WAH! I stream movies and series daily and my usage for the month is only this:

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