wazua Thu, Jan 30, 2025
Welcome Guest Search | Active Topics | Log In | Register

2 Pages<12
You are not stupid enough for this job!! Only in Kenya!
Swenani
#21 Posted : Sunday, May 10, 2015 12:45:48 PM
Rank: User


Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
nakujua wrote:
sasa, we do not shout when the D+ guys are discriminated against when consideration is made for doctors, lawyers, magistrates, cadets ...

Qualifications are set for almost every major occupation and preferences exists in every recruitment process.

The police force and the army have recruitment for more specialized functions where they recruit the A material, and coincidentally its the A material that usually get the commanding and leadership roles in the forces, and its the latter that has failed us (giving commands and strategy).

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
MaichBlack
#22 Posted : Sunday, May 10, 2015 6:49:02 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,467
marko wrote:
So you work hard in school, get a A-, refuse to go to uni because you have been called for a degree course you don't like then complain that refused to pick you as a prison warder? What kind of intelligence do you believe a warder needs to effectively do this work? And the salary? How much do you think it is? How long do you think you'll be paid those peanuts before you start complaining and looking for greener pastures? It is a fact that Kenyans who did well in school are using disciplined forces as stepping stones for better paying jobs in the corporate world. At times leaving the organizations in a manpower crisis. Initially, these organizations thought they had it easy recruiting such bright students until they all left. Civil service is not centum. You need people who will be there for the long haul.

Sometimes people reduce wazua to a drunk villagers discussion group. Arguing to "win" an argument despite the facts.

We are talking about C+ and someone has gone and invented an A-. We are talking about people who have missed police recruitment, have now be rejected in the prisons recruitment and will never be admitted to University as government sponsored students and someone has gone and invented a fictitious student who was admitted to an imaginary university to do a non existent course which he turned down to try and join the prisons department!!!

Why can't people stick to facts???
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#23 Posted : Sunday, May 10, 2015 7:18:55 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,467
One of things:-

1) Are there statistics showing the number of prison or police officers who dessert the force(s) to join the corporate world annually?

2) What is the demand for ex - prison and police officers out there. How many of them get employed by the corporate world annually?

3) Do we have the capacity to train these officers or they are being poached at a faster rate than we can produce them??

Let me address some of these issues.

1) Anyone who thinks a C+ is such a high flying achievement that the individual is going to be poached from you if you employ them must be visiting from outer space or is a typical D material. This country has individuals with multiple degrees who are jobless and graduates doing menial jobs or running businesses that don't need any special skills!

2) There are no companies lining up to employ ex - prison and police officer. No wonder most of them turn to crime after leaving the force because they cannot get alternative jobs.

3) Assuming the private world is full of demand for ex - officers, then that would be extremely good news for the country. We are falling over ourselves to create jobs. You mean all we have to do is train more officers? Unemployment problem solved!!! And it is not like we are training neuro surgeons for eight years and then lose them after two years of service. These are fellows who are trained for 6 or 9 months!!! We can afford to train more of them. We can even have double intakes. Most of the facilities are idle half the year! And we can even afford to pick the training bill. Sime of the billions we channel towards kazi kwa vijana, youth enterprise etc. can be used to foot the bill. If we are broke, we can get ways of recovering the training cost e.g. by bonding the officers for a given number of years.

BUT all these is NOT necessary. We don't have any (remotely) significant loss of police, military or prisons officers to the private sector!!! This is just a figment of some individuals imagination.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#24 Posted : Sunday, May 17, 2015 2:30:03 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,467
And the bullshit continues. TBRK (The Banana Republic of Kenya)
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
tycho
#25 Posted : Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:00:25 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
The Kenyan state could be liquidating itself in an inglorious fashion, and soon, the citizen may find himself a slave to corporate and external power and with the inability to put up the slightest resistance to oppression and dehumanization.

Why? If most recruitment is focused on tactical operations and related skill then strategic operations may need to be outsourced to private firms who will be seeking different objectives from the state, and where and how will their personnel be trained?

The other day GCHQ released a forecast of the world in the next thirty or so years and it's foreseen that private corporations will have armies and their tactical operations will be carried out by robots. Now will our warriors be able to stand the heat? Will the state be able to hold?
Users browsing this topic
Guest (2)
2 Pages<12
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Copyright © 2025 Wazua.co.ke. All Rights Reserved.