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KCB results not so impressive:
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#21 Posted : Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:06:38 PM
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guru267 wrote:
lest all the doubting thomases be warned... this company has HUGE growth waiting for it


Unfortunately that's all keep we hearing about KCB. Huge potential mpaka siku gani?

BBI will solve it
:)
B.Timer
#22 Posted : Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:19:15 PM
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For me KCB is becoming something of a let down.
Has Martin Odour run out of ideas?

Less than a month ago, the advice on this stock was,- buy buy buy.
Where does this leave those who heeded that call.
Dunia ni msongamano..
Audi
#23 Posted : Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:36:13 PM
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I have always had an issue with KCB's expansion strategy:

KCB has gone in the old fasion way of acquiring land and putting up building blocks hence the near nil results from foreign branches.

consider the competitors:
1. Equity adopted the acquisition way in Uganda

2. NIC Bank Acquired in Tanzania;

mdosi
#24 Posted : Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:12:15 PM
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Their 2010 overheads will be significantly reduced when they are done with the 1000+ retrenchment process. However, why is it that they get into loan agreements with companies like KPCU. KPCU has been mismanaged for ages and so has been Panpaper. They should also train their staff on customer care because some of them behave like government workers.
It's amazing what you can achieve when you get rid of fear.
chaliwong
#25 Posted : Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:24:41 PM
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@vitus - You say Bbk to consolidate UG and TZ to benefit the local kenyan investor.

Even as it is, what percentage of BarclaysKenya do Kenyans or local investors own? Does it even reach a quarter?

Barclays Kenyan entity is the most profitable in Africa;
Why would we merge ours with UG and TZ?
Wont that just Increase the retained earnings from profits earned in our market to help bring the two to our level of profitability and you know what that does to the dividend?

As much as they are independent the operations are already merged under ABSA, its only that our entity is more efficient.


chaliwong
#26 Posted : Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:41:20 PM
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I think KCB is trying to do every thing that is necessary all at the same time.

From adopting new technology, to regional expansion, to downsizing, to recovering non performing corporate loans all at the same time is exhausting.

I think with good infrastructure in technology everything else will fall into place.

But I also thought that when they said the money raised from the rights was to be used for regional expansion it meant returns were not to be expected that soon?
VituVingiSana
#27 Posted : Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:49:40 PM
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Audi wrote:
I have always had an issue with KCB's expansion strategy:

KCB has gone in the old fasion way of acquiring land and putting up building blocks hence the near nil results from foreign branches.

consider the competitors:
1. Equity adopted the acquisition way in Uganda

2. NIC Bank Acquired in Tanzania;

Someone has to put the branches. Either you can build your house or buy from a developer... I think KCB decided to build the house pole pole... Hopefully, the cost of building their brand/branches is cheaper than acquisitions...

BTW, Equity also built up the business from scratch in S.Sudan coz no banks to buy there. Unless it can buy a bank on the cheap, it will have to do the same in Rwanda.

As Kenyan (& Nigerian + South African) banks become regional, the 'sellers' in Rwanda, Tanzania, etc are asking for higher prices.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
tony stark
#28 Posted : Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:08:02 PM
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chaliwong wrote:
I think KCB is trying to do every thing that is necessary all at the same time.

From adopting new technology, to regional expansion, to downsizing, to recovering non performing corporate loans all at the same time is exhausting.



All you stated above is just chewing and walking. They just have to do it! The problem is when they have two opposing policies running concurrently.
VituVingiSana
#29 Posted : Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:57:17 PM
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tony stark wrote:
chaliwong wrote:
I think KCB is trying to do every thing that is necessary all at the same time.

From adopting new technology, to regional expansion, to downsizing, to recovering non performing corporate loans all at the same time is exhausting.


All you stated above is just chewing and walking. They just have to do it! The problem is when they have two opposing policies running concurrently.

You have to multi-task... look at banks who lagged on adopting cheaper money transfer...

Equity jumped on the bandwagon early with Eaazy & M-Pesa & is now reaping the benefits... also the HUGE number of ATMs made Equity far more flexible vs others...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
selah
#30 Posted : Friday, February 26, 2010 6:47:41 AM
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This company has problem with the NPL if you factor the loses it incurred from triton alone then panper and uchumi its even a miracle it did not post a loss.
Another thing is its services,I have an account with them and the number of times I have walked out because of slow service is just numerous and its not I alone but several other friends of mine .You will be three of you in a queue but you will stand there for more than 30min.b4 you are served.
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