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Sober		#1731 Posted : Tuesday, May 05, 2015 12:55:34 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604		mulla wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: 6.70 trades! in the line up to join club mumias and homeafrika.....the strategy they are pursing to get a deep pocketed partner may be the best option for them to get them out of their troubles.... In the line to become among the few counters where the share price equals the par value. By end month this may be a reality African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Cde Monomotapa		#1732 Posted : Tuesday, May 05, 2015 6:31:20 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964		As far as the speculative deal talks are concerned I'll recall a wise saying, "It's better to own 10% of an Elephant than a 100% of a Rat." ~tafakari Going by this un-mediarised version.. AWAS to acquire and then lease three 787-8 Dreamliners to Kenya Airways Quote: 30APR2015 AWAS announced today that it has agreed to a purchase and leaseback transaction for three 787-8 Dreamliners with the flag carrier of Kenya, Kenya Airways. These aircraft were originally ordered by the airline directly from the manufacturer and the first of the three aircraft has delivered today. http://www.aviator.aero/...&utm_medium=twitter ..the question on my mind is had KQ already borrowed to buy the jets? If so, then this purchase & leaseback is a major relief when KQ offsets the debt. Looking back, it's now good to have fluid fundamentals - literally! The KQ Team can then focus with being customer centric. Deliver the experience of the 'youngest fleet in Africa"! --- To AWAS I'd say, "Good on ya mate! Cheers.."
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obiero		#1733 Posted : Tuesday, May 05, 2015 6:38:59 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,321 Location: nairobi		ngunze has his heart and mind in the correct place.. im still buying, for the boomerang COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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ike		#1734 Posted : Tuesday, May 05, 2015 9:56:57 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/2/2014 Posts: 123		mulla wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: 6.70 trades! in the line up to join club mumias and homeafrika.....the strategy they are pursing to get a deep pocketed partner may be the best option for them to get them out of their troubles.... sad if hafr and kq were to meet...one on its way up the other on its way down. ,
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Aguytrying		#1735 Posted : Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:02:11 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040		Project mawingu cancelled. I was one of those that said it wasn't feasible. If a non expert in the airline industry, non accountant like me can see a fault in a companys strategy that a whole board goes ahead and persues, kq was in very bad hands. And don't think that much has changed. which right minded investor would pour 18 billion to a financially mismanaged loss making firm? Unless its the chinco gov. or an airline buying out most of Gov's stake. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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maka		#1736 Posted : Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:11:20 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		Aguytrying wrote: Project mawingu cancelled. I was one of those that said it wasn't feasible. If a non expert in the airline industry, non accountant like me can see a fault in a companys strategy that a whole board goes ahead and persues, kq was in very bad hands. And don't think that much has changed. which right minded investor would pour 18 billion to a financially mismanaged loss making firm? Unless its the chinco gov. or an airline buying out most of Gov's stake. That was the only way out for them... possunt quia posse videntur
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Cde Monomotapa		#1737 Posted : Wednesday, May 06, 2015 10:52:07 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964		maka wrote: Aguytrying wrote: Project mawingu cancelled. I was one of those that said it wasn't feasible. If a non expert in the airline industry, non accountant like me can see a fault in a companys strategy that a whole board goes ahead and persues, kq was in very bad hands. And don't think that much has changed. which right minded investor would pour 18 billion to a financially mismanaged loss making firm? Unless its the chinco gov. or an airline buying out most of Gov's stake. That was the only way out for them... Focusing on actionables, KQ doesn't need a equity partner to raise 18B. The going rate for a new 787 is USD180-200M. Now, KQ has 5 of it's older fleet up for sale. Reportedly a 767 and 4 777-200s. The issue is how soon they can be sold.
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Gordon Gekko		#1738 Posted : Wednesday, May 06, 2015 11:01:03 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760		maka wrote: Aguytrying wrote: Project mawingu cancelled. I was one of those that said it wasn't feasible. If a non expert in the airline industry, non accountant like me can see a fault in a companys strategy that a whole board goes ahead and persues, kq was in very bad hands. And don't think that much has changed. which right minded investor would pour 18 billion to a financially mismanaged loss making firm? Unless its the chinco gov. or an airline buying out most of Gov's stake. That was the only way out for them... Cancelled is incorrect. Halted is more appropriate. Cancelled means the return of all equipment, which isn't the case. I don't think mawingu was a bad strategy, it got delayed by nearly 4 years. Had it run on time, it would probably be a different story today.
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maka		#1739 Posted : Wednesday, May 06, 2015 11:28:38 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		Gordon Gekko wrote: maka wrote: Aguytrying wrote: Project mawingu cancelled. I was one of those that said it wasn't feasible. If a non expert in the airline industry, non accountant like me can see a fault in a companys strategy that a whole board goes ahead and persues, kq was in very bad hands. And don't think that much has changed. which right minded investor would pour 18 billion to a financially mismanaged loss making firm? Unless its the chinco gov. or an airline buying out most of Gov's stake. That was the only way out for them... Cancelled is incorrect. Halted is more appropriate. Cancelled means the return of all equipment, which isn't the case. I don't think mawingu was a bad strategy, it got delayed by nearly 4 years. Had it run on time, it would probably be a different story today. Somebody on this thread,cant rem who said we look at KQ after 2018...maybe,just maybe....If I close my eyes and buy 250,000 shares today will I be smiling in 2018? possunt quia posse videntur
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Kastone		#1740 Posted : Wednesday, May 06, 2015 11:29:54 AM
Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/1/2014 Posts: 82		Cde Monomotapa wrote: maka wrote: Aguytrying wrote: Project mawingu cancelled. I was one of those that said it wasn't feasible. If a non expert in the airline industry, non accountant like me can see a fault in a companys strategy that a whole board goes ahead and persues, kq was in very bad hands. And don't think that much has changed. which right minded investor would pour 18 billion to a financially mismanaged loss making firm? Unless its the chinco gov. or an airline buying out most of Gov's stake. That was the only way out for them... Focusing on actionables, KQ doesn't need a equity partner to raise 18B. The going rate for a new 787 is USD180-200M. Now, KQ has 5 of it's older fleet up for sale. Reportedly a 767 and 4 777-200s. The issue is how soon they can be sold. Will help clear debt, but would result to more losses “The beauty of success is that it doesn’t matter how many times you have failed, you only have to be right once and then everyone can tell you how lucky you are.” - Mark Cuban
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