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TPS Serena records 40% drop in FY 2014 EPS
Mastermind
#21 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:24:38 PM
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If they make a loss they will still pay dividends ala Limuru tea. And whats the logic behind not giving a breakdown of revenue contribution by country??
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#22 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 8:18:51 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
This is bad...really bad. Never buy a company posting declining earnings from its core business. NEVER


We would never have opportunities for value if people did not buy and sell such companies.
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ayushnehra
#23 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 8:33:06 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
ayushnehra wrote:
that is very attractive dividend yield..!! better than a lot of companies on the NSE..!!

DPS - 1.35/=
EPS - 1.35/=

You should be very worried!!!



I get your point but honestly I would be worried If i were investing to stay with them..I'm not here to start a relationship...only for the money..I'll wait for a drop before the books closes..buy and get out after..!! As investors we should make money and be brutal about it..if a company is not doing well toka...lakini where a few bucks can be made..no wasting time..!!
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#24 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:19:49 PM
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I would differ with the others on this. I think this shows the strength in their cash flow management. Look at that Profit and Loss statement and realize that they have already deducted a depreciation expense of over 400 million before they get to their net earnings per share of Ksh. 1.35. The fact that they feel they have good enough cash reserves to pay dividend is a good thing.

I like businesses that manage cash well and the Aga Khan companies are masters of the craft.
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#25 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:51:28 PM
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What will people say about crown berger then...

Profits down 90% y/y. issued a dividend of 1.75 from RESERVES plus a 2:1 bonus.

Don't Tps look like saints compared??
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#26 Posted : Friday, May 01, 2015 3:26:10 AM
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Mastermind wrote:
If they make a loss they will still pay dividends ala Limuru tea. And whats the logic behind not giving a breakdown of revenue contribution by country??

I have been wondering the same thing. If Kenya properties are not doing well, growth in Tz, Ug, Rw and other country properties could offset in future, so this could be a good time to load up if you are willing to risk. But we need to know the growth rate, if there is growth that is. Or is there some way to deduce these figures?
whiteowl
#27 Posted : Friday, May 01, 2015 12:45:01 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
What will people say about crown berger then...

Profits down 90% y/y. issued a dividend of 1.75 from RESERVES plus a 2:1 bonus.

Don't Tps look like saints compared??

PPT on overdrive
VituVingiSana
#28 Posted : Saturday, May 02, 2015 4:11:28 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ayushnehra wrote:
that is very attractive dividend yield..!! better than a lot of companies on the NSE..!!

DPS - 1.35/=
EPS - 1.35/=

You should be very worried!!!

BAT also pays out 100% of the EPS. Though to be fair, TPSEA is in a very different business vs BAT.

BAT have NOTHING to do with money. It is a fully mature company with no immediate capital expenditures.

TPS NEEDS money. This decision was made for a singular reason. Shore up the share price!
Yes, that was my point re: BAT
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VituVingiSana
#29 Posted : Saturday, May 02, 2015 4:15:15 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ayushnehra wrote:
that is very attractive dividend yield..!! better than a lot of companies on the NSE..!!

DPS - 1.35/=
EPS - 1.35/=

You should be very worried!!!

BAT also pays out 100% of the EPS. Though to be fair, TPSEA is in a very different business vs BAT.


They can only do this if they have some confidence going forward... like total did, when they paid a dividend of 0.20 after making a loss, 2 yrs ago.

At last year's AGM they hinted to a rights issue to cover the planned Nairobi Serena expansion. Could they be trying to prop up the price in anticipation of this?

Nairobi Serena needs a lot of work. A Rights Issue is not a bad idea at this time. If Serena can start construction in 2015 while business is slow then they can get ready for additional business by 2018.

BTW, TPS has a unique opportunity to buy out other properties (especially Masai Mara, Amboseli and Coast) cheap as the hotels collapse due to the slow tourism numbers.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#30 Posted : Saturday, May 02, 2015 4:19:36 AM
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Nairobi Serena needs a lot of work. A Rights Issue is not a bad idea at this time. If Serena can start construction in 2015 while business is slow then they can get ready for additional business by 2018.

TPS has a unique opportunity to buy out other properties (especially Masai Mara, Amboseli and Coast) cheap as the hotels collapse due to the slow tourism market.

I like Aga Khan firms. They have management depth with many CEOs, CFOs or directors who are often adherents of the Aga Khan thus there's more to it than just being employees. I value good management.

That said, the best managers cannot save a firm in a dying sector. Therefore, I ask... is Tourism dying in Kenya?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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