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TPS Serena records 40% drop in FY 2014 EPS
Aguytrying
#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 28, 2015 10:01:17 PM
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TPS SERENA records 40% drop in eps year over year to 1.35
maintains dividend at 1.35

interesting move to maintain dividend, a show of strength/ reward to the shareholders?

af.reuters.com/article/investingNews/idAFKBN0NJ1V120150428
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MaichBlack
#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 28, 2015 10:43:25 PM
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hisah
#3 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 2:39:19 AM
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Turnover down 7%, cratered profits by 40% and maintains same DPS!

2015 more turnover will be crimped and if the dip is above 10% then it won't be about profit dip, but loss instead. I still don't think issuing a dividend was a good idea. They might need that money if the 2015 forecast happens or even worse. H1 results will offer a glimpse of how 2015 is cooking.

DPS will stem the expected price slide, but H1 results will have more influence on the market.

2015 many a biz will struggle to outperform mr market's expectations. At some point bulls will throw in the towel. Should $KES become too volatile, CBR hike may strike back effectively smashing the market bulls as mr market turns defensive.
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Aguytrying
#4 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 9:26:10 AM
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True the revenue dip and the fall in profits are mismatched. while the H1 gives a guide of what to expect, H2 is where the money is made.

your fears of the shilling depreciating to 100 vs the dollar seem to be coming true every passing day.
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muganda
#5 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 9:33:47 AM
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Agreed @hisah @Aguytrying

As was the case before, TPSEA results usually shallow in breakdown of costs. They would explain better how the 7% decline in turnover results in a 37% decline in EBITDA.

Shallow Link http://ge.tt/3Oj7dQF2/v/1?c


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#6 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 9:38:20 AM
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muganda wrote:
Agreed @hisah @Aguytrying

As was the case before, TPSEA results usually shallow in breakdown of costs. They would explain better how the 7% decline in turnover results in a 37% decline in EBITDA.

Shallow Link http://ge.tt/3Oj7dQF2/v/1?c



may be they discounted their prices to get a big share of the few tourists thus reducing what they usually get as profit
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 9:46:22 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
TPS SERENA records 40% drop in eps year over year to 1.35
maintains dividend at 1.35

interesting move to maintain dividend, a show of strength/ reward to the shareholders?

TPS results


Not opening any other...?
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Aguytrying
#8 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:49:02 AM
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maka wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
TPS SERENA records 40% drop in eps year over year to 1.35
maintains dividend at 1.35

interesting move to maintain dividend, a show of strength/ reward to the shareholders?

TPS results


Not opening any other...?


pole. try @mugandas link ^^
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Pesa Nane
#9 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 7:11:37 PM
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maka wrote:

Not opening any other...?


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Pesa Nane
#10 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 7:24:29 PM
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Div. Ksh 1.35

Payable 29 July 2015

Register closure: 29 June 2015

AGM: 29 June 2015, KICC
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ayushnehra
#11 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 9:32:35 PM
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that is very attractive dividend yield..!! better than a lot of companies on the NSE..!!
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MaichBlack
#12 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:08:45 PM
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ayushnehra wrote:
that is very attractive dividend yield..!! better than a lot of companies on the NSE..!!

DPS - 1.35/=
EPS - 1.35/=

You should be very worried!!!
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#13 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 3:22:03 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
ayushnehra wrote:
that is very attractive dividend yield..!! better than a lot of companies on the NSE..!!

DPS - 1.35/=
EPS - 1.35/=

You should be very worried!!!

BAT also pays out 100% of the EPS. Though to be fair, TPSEA is in a very different business vs BAT.
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Aguytrying
#14 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 3:08:49 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ayushnehra wrote:
that is very attractive dividend yield..!! better than a lot of companies on the NSE..!!

DPS - 1.35/=
EPS - 1.35/=

You should be very worried!!!

BAT also pays out 100% of the EPS. Though to be fair, TPSEA is in a very different business vs BAT.


They can only do this if they have some confidence going forward... like total did, when they paid a dividend of 0.20 after making a loss, 2 yrs ago.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 3:13:30 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ayushnehra wrote:
that is very attractive dividend yield..!! better than a lot of companies on the NSE..!!

DPS - 1.35/=
EPS - 1.35/=

You should be very worried!!!

BAT also pays out 100% of the EPS. Though to be fair, TPSEA is in a very different business vs BAT.


They can only do this if they have some confidence going forward... like total did, when they paid a dividend of 0.20 after making a loss, 2 yrs ago.

At last year's AGM they hinted to a rights issue to cover the planned Nairobi Serena expansion. Could they be trying to prop up the price in anticipation of this?
MaichBlack
#16 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:35:31 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ayushnehra wrote:
that is very attractive dividend yield..!! better than a lot of companies on the NSE..!!

DPS - 1.35/=
EPS - 1.35/=

You should be very worried!!!

BAT also pays out 100% of the EPS. Though to be fair, TPSEA is in a very different business vs BAT.

BAT have NOTHING to do with money. It is a fully mature company with no immediate capital expenditures.

TPS NEEDS money. This decision was made for a singular reason. Shore up the share price!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
hisah
#17 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:42:44 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ayushnehra wrote:
that is very attractive dividend yield..!! better than a lot of companies on the NSE..!!

DPS - 1.35/=
EPS - 1.35/=

You should be very worried!!!

BAT also pays out 100% of the EPS. Though to be fair, TPSEA is in a very different business vs BAT.

BAT have NOTHING to do with money. It is a fully mature company with no immediate capital expenditures.

TPS NEEDS money. This decision was made for a singular reason. Shore up the share price!

TPS management is attempting stick-saving aka bag holding aka PPT. But if support at 30/- is broken, the downside aims 20 last seen early 2009 when GFC was at its strongest.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Aguytrying
#18 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 5:26:39 PM
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hisah wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
ayushnehra wrote:
that is very attractive dividend yield..!! better than a lot of companies on the NSE..!!

DPS - 1.35/=
EPS - 1.35/=

You should be very worried!!!

BAT also pays out 100% of the EPS. Though to be fair, TPSEA is in a very different business vs BAT.

BAT have NOTHING to do with money. It is a fully mature company with no immediate capital expenditures.

TPS NEEDS money. This decision was made for a singular reason. Shore up the share price!

TPS management is attempting stick-saving aka bag holding aka PPT. But if support at 30/- is broken, the downside aims 20 last seen early 2009 when GFC was at its strongest.


That rights issue reason makes a lot of sense....
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winmak
#19 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 5:46:58 PM
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Retaining the earnings would have made more sense. Investors can see through share hiking strategy
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#20 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:14:20 PM
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This is bad...really bad. Never buy a company posting declining earnings from its core business. NEVER
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