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Tara
#41 Posted : Friday, April 24, 2015 7:16:51 PM
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MutantJ wrote:
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2. Women should be free to decide what they want to do with their bodies after all, children affect the woman more than they do the man.


A baby is not and will never be part of their body!...The infant is a separate being and thus should also be allowed by the same women to decide what to do with their life not to take it away...


*do with their bodies* ... this includes carrying a baby for 9 months .. or do you imagine we lay an egg and sit on it till the baby hatches?

And the people who make the most noise about what women should and should not do with their bodies ... from having children to dressing to whether or not they should have sex, use contraception or get married are men. Abortions will always be done whether or not you wanted them ... banning them or vilifying those who need them only pushes people into those dark and dingy abortion clinics. Women are stigmatized when they get pregnant outside marriage, they are abandoned by the same men who weeks prior had seduced them, or toil endlessly while "the man of the house" drinks his money away. I am not saying that all men are bad... all I am saying is by the time a decision has been made to have an abortion or keep the child, the woman has evaluated her options and knows what steps to take for the future.

Yes, people say that you will always manage to feed and clothe a child when it is born but that is not always the case if people around you are struggling just like you.
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Impunity
#42 Posted : Friday, April 24, 2015 7:36:13 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
Sauti Sol new song touching on touchy matters

https://youtu.be/rtNZK3PUme8

me I think that bringing a child into poverty is the biggest disadvantage you can give them. Your thoughts?

Me I ????


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Mike Ock
#43 Posted : Friday, April 24, 2015 8:04:15 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
Sauti Sol new song touching on touchy matters

https://youtu.be/rtNZK3PUme8

me I think that bringing a child into poverty is the biggest disadvantage you can give them. Your thoughts?


To paraphrase you, poor people should not have tois? Shame on you

Meaning, sasa hata watoto ni preserve for the well-off? Wee wacha zako.

and by extension poor people have no right to live (imagine someone living in poverty!! how impossible) and should be killed.


I clearly said that I think poor people are better off sorting their problems first before child bearing
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Mike Ock
#44 Posted : Friday, April 24, 2015 8:07:55 PM
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Tara
#45 Posted : Friday, April 24, 2015 8:41:17 PM
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PeterReborn wrote:
Trust me if you got a kid today,he/she will never sleep hungry.


Which utopia is this you live in?
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UpcomingPaperChaser
#46 Posted : Friday, April 24, 2015 8:42:18 PM
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If i was a slum kid who has no food, no clothing, no shelter, no medical attention or education, i would rather my mother abort me rather than bringing me to a world of suffering.

What you fail to teach girls is that, yes they are afraid of raising kids while they are poor, but do they know the risks that they are exposing themselves when having unprotected sex? they would rather be poor but alive, rather than being poor and being HIV +!

May God forgive me for being a party to an abortion sometime ago
Enjoy every moment of your life, you never know when your time will come.
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UpcomingPaperChaser
#47 Posted : Friday, April 24, 2015 8:44:35 PM
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Tara wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
Trust me if you got a kid today,he/she will never sleep hungry.


Which utopia is this you live in?


Boss, there are poor people in this world u wont believe they have never held a 100 bob note in their lives and they are so mature. go to Turkana and you will know that just affording to get water to drink is a luxury to so people
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Mike Ock
#48 Posted : Friday, April 24, 2015 9:05:36 PM
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Tara wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
Trust me if you got a kid today,he/she will never sleep hungry.


Which utopia is this you live in?


Si he's saying "God will provide."

You can't assign Christian solutions to universal matters. After all, there's only 1 billion Christians, and we are 7 billion in this world. You have to be more practical
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washiku
#49 Posted : Friday, April 24, 2015 10:51:00 PM
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Mukiri
#50 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2015 5:49:00 AM
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Mike Ock wrote:
Tara wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
Trust me if you got a kid today,he/she will never sleep hungry.


Which utopia is this you live in?


Si he's saying "God will provide."

You can't assign Christian solutions to universal matters. After all, there's only 1 billion Christians, and we are 7 billion in this world. You have to be more practical

How many people die every day? Road accidents, disease, calamities etc... Maybe then, we shouldn't be all around because at some point or the other, we'll die! Heck, everyone has challenges in life... to avoid such challenges, we should eliminate people, no?

We are alive by His grace... No one has the right to make that choice, but Him

Proverbs 19:21
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