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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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washiku wrote:Swenani wrote:Muriel wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:These twitretai are worse than politicians. Approaching every issue with an open mouth.
I heard one radio anchor arguing that Sauti Sol have gone to far with their song.
The song is art people!
Sauti Sol is not a family planning organization.
Nkt! Why Wakanyugi, why? Why are you listening to radio? See what is doing to you. You are now discussing what you heard on it. Is he supposed to listen to pictures?  Funny Pictures for that matter!!! In other words Muriel anamwambia what UK told us some time back. It starts with you. Dont listen to radio so that you dont hear abortion issues. #SomeoneCollectMeSomewhereDownHere!! If the quality of our radio was exceptional and primed for noble pursuits I would have not pointed out 'listening to radio'. Anyway, apart from chatter and maybe gossip, what are these 'abortion issues' we will be blessed with from radio, Washiku?
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PeterReborn wrote:How come generally those from humble backgrounds get more kids while those from middle and upper middle class who have more resources get fewer kids? Those of you from middle and upper middle class have resources but lack health How do you expect a middle class where the husband suffers from ED due to excessive drinking and overweight while the wife who is barren due to many abortions she has had more than the times she has had her periods to have kids? If the middle class family have good health, the husband will be out eating other wild fish after which he goes to the pub for drinks,by the time he gets to the house, he has problems breathing and you expect him to get an erection and land the wife....It's not the wish of the "well to do off! families to have fewer or no kids,its the circumstances that have forced them If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:PeterReborn wrote:How come generally those from humble backgrounds get more kids while those from middle and upper middle class who have more resources get fewer kids? Those of you from middle and upper middle class have resources but lack health How do you expect a middle class where the husband suffers from ED due to excessive drinking and overweight while the wife who is barren due to many abortions she has had more than the times she has had her periods to have kids? If the middle class family have good health, the husband will be out eating other wild fish after which he goes to the pub for drinks,by the time he gets to the house, he has problems breathing and you expect him to get an erection and land the wife....It's not the wish of the "well to do off! families to have fewer or no kids,its the circumstances that have forced them Are we then saying only the middle class have ED and do excessive abortion.Were the maternity wards that were closed in Nyeri due to middle class having ED? I think the middle class are just selfish and feel that the kids are a bother.They want to have a PHD, travel round the world,have more sex and therefore use family planning not to get kids who will disrupt their plans. Most of the people explaining how kids are expensive are the middle class and do not want to take responsibility for the kids.That is why their kids are brought up by house girls and the parents buy the kids expensive gifts to compensate for non availability. Consistency is better than intensity
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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PeterReborn wrote:Swenani wrote:PeterReborn wrote:How come generally those from humble backgrounds get more kids while those from middle and upper middle class who have more resources get fewer kids? Those of you from middle and upper middle class have resources but lack health How do you expect a middle class where the husband suffers from ED due to excessive drinking and overweight while the wife who is barren due to many abortions she has had more than the times she has had her periods to have kids? If the middle class family have good health, the husband will be out eating other wild fish after which he goes to the pub for drinks,by the time he gets to the house, he has problems breathing and you expect him to get an erection and land the wife....It's not the wish of the "well to do off! families to have fewer or no kids,its the circumstances that have forced them Are we then saying only the middle class have ED and do excessive abortion.Were the maternity wards that were closed in Nyeri due to middle class having ED?I think the middle class are just selfish and feel that the kids are a bother.They want to have a PHD, travel round the world,have more sex and therefore use family planning not to get kids who will disrupt their plans. Most of the people explaining how kids are expensive are the middle class and do not want to take responsibility for the kids.That is why their kids are brought up by house girls and the parents buy the kids expensive gifts to compensate for non availability. Yes, they were closed because the middle class(by Nyeri standards) preffered to drink and/or sleep under the bed for fear(which could be due to ED) of having sex If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:PeterReborn wrote:Swenani wrote:PeterReborn wrote:How come generally those from humble backgrounds get more kids while those from middle and upper middle class who have more resources get fewer kids? Those of you from middle and upper middle class have resources but lack health How do you expect a middle class where the husband suffers from ED due to excessive drinking and overweight while the wife who is barren due to many abortions she has had more than the times she has had her periods to have kids? If the middle class family have good health, the husband will be out eating other wild fish after which he goes to the pub for drinks,by the time he gets to the house, he has problems breathing and you expect him to get an erection and land the wife....It's not the wish of the "well to do off! families to have fewer or no kids,its the circumstances that have forced them Are we then saying only the middle class have ED and do excessive abortion.Were the maternity wards that were closed in Nyeri due to middle class having ED?I think the middle class are just selfish and feel that the kids are a bother.They want to have a PHD, travel round the world,have more sex and therefore use family planning not to get kids who will disrupt their plans. Most of the people explaining how kids are expensive are the middle class and do not want to take responsibility for the kids.That is why their kids are brought up by house girls and the parents buy the kids expensive gifts to compensate for non availability. Yes, the were closed because the middle class(by Nyeri standards) preffered to drink and/or sleep under the bed for fear(which could be due to ED) of having sex Then who is mido class?Are we all not mido class then? Consistency is better than intensity
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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PeterReborn wrote:Swenani wrote:PeterReborn wrote:Swenani wrote:PeterReborn wrote:How come generally those from humble backgrounds get more kids while those from middle and upper middle class who have more resources get fewer kids? Those of you from middle and upper middle class have resources but lack health How do you expect a middle class where the husband suffers from ED due to excessive drinking and overweight while the wife who is barren due to many abortions she has had more than the times she has had her periods to have kids? If the middle class family have good health, the husband will be out eating other wild fish after which he goes to the pub for drinks,by the time he gets to the house, he has problems breathing and you expect him to get an erection and land the wife....It's not the wish of the "well to do off! families to have fewer or no kids,its the circumstances that have forced them Are we then saying only the middle class have ED and do excessive abortion.Were the maternity wards that were closed in Nyeri due to middle class having ED?I think the middle class are just selfish and feel that the kids are a bother.They want to have a PHD, travel round the world,have more sex and therefore use family planning not to get kids who will disrupt their plans. Most of the people explaining how kids are expensive are the middle class and do not want to take responsibility for the kids.That is why their kids are brought up by house girls and the parents buy the kids expensive gifts to compensate for non availability. Yes, the were closed because the middle class(by Nyeri standards) preffered to drink and/or sleep under the bed for fear(which could be due to ED) of having sex Then who is mido class?Are we all not mido class then? Yes and no depending on whose definition we take 1.African development bank defines middle classas those people spending between $2- $ 20 a day 2.McKinsey(the ones responsible for firing people at Coop Bank) defines middle class as those spending more than $ 55 a day 3.Standard bank defines middle class as those spending $ 23 perday 4.OECD defines middle class as those spending $ 10 per day In my defination,If you can afford alcohol(luxury) you are middle class.The poor are the ones who are unable to meet their basic needs e.g sec(due to lack of room/place to have it), food,security and water.If you meet all the above, you are not poor. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:PeterReborn wrote:Swenani wrote:PeterReborn wrote:Swenani wrote:PeterReborn wrote:How come generally those from humble backgrounds get more kids while those from middle and upper middle class who have more resources get fewer kids? Those of you from middle and upper middle class have resources but lack health How do you expect a middle class where the husband suffers from ED due to excessive drinking and overweight while the wife who is barren due to many abortions she has had more than the times she has had her periods to have kids? If the middle class family have good health, the husband will be out eating other wild fish after which he goes to the pub for drinks,by the time he gets to the house, he has problems breathing and you expect him to get an erection and land the wife....It's not the wish of the "well to do off! families to have fewer or no kids,its the circumstances that have forced them Are we then saying only the middle class have ED and do excessive abortion.Were the maternity wards that were closed in Nyeri due to middle class having ED?I think the middle class are just selfish and feel that the kids are a bother.They want to have a PHD, travel round the world,have more sex and therefore use family planning not to get kids who will disrupt their plans. Most of the people explaining how kids are expensive are the middle class and do not want to take responsibility for the kids.That is why their kids are brought up by house girls and the parents buy the kids expensive gifts to compensate for non availability. Yes, the were closed because the middle class(by Nyeri standards) preffered to drink and/or sleep under the bed for fear(which could be due to ED) of having sex Then who is mido class?Are we all not mido class then? Yes and no depending on whose definition we take 1.African development bank defines middle classas those people spending between $2- $ 20 a day 2.McKinsey(the ones responsible for firing people at Coop Bank) defines middle class as those spending more than $ 55 a day 3.Standard bank defines middle class as those spending $ 23 perday 4.OECD defines middle class as those spending $ 10 per day In my defination,If you can afford alcohol(luxury) you are middle class.The poor are the ones who are unable to meet their basic needs e.g sec(due to lack of room/place to have it), food,security and water.If you meet all the above, you are not poor. 5.@Swenani-2015(The fish monger)-Those who drink and suffer from ED.Also those who have procured a lot of abortions. Consistency is better than intensity
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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PeterReborn wrote: How can having a baby be a disaster?I know pampers are expensive but the benefits of having a baby outdoes the costs.Having babies should never be a preserve for the rich. @PeterReborn, Ask the street kids (for example purposes) what disaster is and they'll give it to you. Look, a human being should live a decent life, feed,clothe,be housed,health services and education. I'm against the business of just plunging children into misery, when all that could be avoided to a huge degree. If one has to choose between children suffering to death and abortion, i take abortion any day. Until the day virtually all living children get good nurturing, a way has to be found of stopping/lessening the suffering. It's inhumane watching fellow human being [child] suffer, do nothing about it, yet still,champion for more human beings [children) to be thrown into the abyss of suffering.
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PeterReborn wrote:Swenani wrote:PeterReborn wrote:How come generally those from humble backgrounds get more kids while those from middle and upper middle class who have more resources get fewer kids? Those of you from middle and upper middle class have resources but lack health How do you expect a middle class where the husband suffers from ED due to excessive drinking and overweight while the wife who is barren due to many abortions she has had more than the times she has had her periods to have kids? If the middle class family have good health, the husband will be out eating other wild fish after which he goes to the pub for drinks,by the time he gets to the house, he has problems breathing and you expect him to get an erection and land the wife....It's not the wish of the "well to do off! families to have fewer or no kids,its the circumstances that have forced them Are we then saying only the middle class have ED and do excessive abortion.Were the maternity wards that were closed in Nyeri due to middle class having ED? I think the middle class are just selfish and feel that the kids are a bother. They want to have a PHD, travel round the world,have more sex and therefore use family planning not to get kids who will disrupt their plans.Most of the people explaining how kids are expensive are the middle class and do not want to take responsibility for the kids.That is why their kids are brought up by house girls and the parents buy the kids expensive gifts to compensate for non availability. How is this selfish! Who said that grown ups should stop living, learning, enjoying and experiencing new things. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Swenani wrote:PeterReborn wrote:Swenani wrote:PeterReborn wrote:Swenani wrote:PeterReborn wrote:How come generally those from humble backgrounds get more kids while those from middle and upper middle class who have more resources get fewer kids? Those of you from middle and upper middle class have resources but lack health How do you expect a middle class where the husband suffers from ED due to excessive drinking and overweight while the wife who is barren due to many abortions she has had more than the times she has had her periods to have kids? If the middle class family have good health, the husband will be out eating other wild fish after which he goes to the pub for drinks,by the time he gets to the house, he has problems breathing and you expect him to get an erection and land the wife....It's not the wish of the "well to do off! families to have fewer or no kids,its the circumstances that have forced them Are we then saying only the middle class have ED and do excessive abortion.Were the maternity wards that were closed in Nyeri due to middle class having ED?I think the middle class are just selfish and feel that the kids are a bother.They want to have a PHD, travel round the world,have more sex and therefore use family planning not to get kids who will disrupt their plans. Most of the people explaining how kids are expensive are the middle class and do not want to take responsibility for the kids.That is why their kids are brought up by house girls and the parents buy the kids expensive gifts to compensate for non availability. Yes, the were closed because the middle class(by Nyeri standards) preffered to drink and/or sleep under the bed for fear(which could be due to ED) of having sex Then who is mido class?Are we all not mido class then? Yes and no depending on whose definition we take 1.African development bank defines middle classas those people spending between $2- $ 20 a day 2.McKinsey(the ones responsible for firing people at Coop Bank) defines middle class as those spending more than $ 55 a day 3.Standard bank defines middle class as those spending $ 23 perday 4.OECD defines middle class as those spending $ 10 per day In my defination,If you can afford alcohol(luxury) you are middle class.The poor are the ones who are unable to meet their basic needs e.g sec(due to lack of room/place to have it), food,security and water.If you meet all the above, you are not poor. Majority of local brewers are women. Poor women in Soweto, Kisumu ndogo and such like places. The drinkers are men from the same localities.
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