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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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symbols wrote:Quran 3:54 wrote:And they cheated/deceived and Allah cheated/deceived, and Allah (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers AlphDoti wrote:Makali1 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Makali1 wrote:Again, stick to the topic.
Do you believe, per the Quran, Sura, Hadith that Mohammed was the perfect human being whose works should be espoused?
Do you believe that Sharia Law is the perfect way of life for all? Absolutely yes!!! Thank you. That's all I needed to CONFIRM. Very soon, I will address what SHARIA LAW entails which I think will help Christian Kenyans wake up from their deep slumber. This is where propaganda has "reached" you. You've been studying crap thinking you're learning about Islam. You're listening to so-called experts in Islam. If you wanted to learn about MEDICINE, do you go to an ENEMY of the DOCTOR? So bring your argument. Brings facts, I'm all here for you. We're used to the kind of lies. IMPORTANT: ONE BOOK WRITTEN AGAINST ISLAM EVERYDAYA Christian surveyor, Professor Edward reported in the TIME Magazine of April 16, 1979 that in a span of 150 years, from 1800 CE to 1950 CE over 60,000 books have been written against Islam. It works out to more than one book against Islam everyday. Not mentioning the daily negative propaganda on TV and Radio. And now Internet is the new media and Youtube videos. This is the correct translation: Quran 3:54 " And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah." This verse talks about people making an intricate plan to carry out some secret purpose. The enemies of Allah are constantly doing that. But Allah - in whose hands is all good—has His plans also, against which the evil ones will have no chance whatever. Read 8:30, 13:42, and 27:50 for similar verses. #TRUTHISCLEARFROMFALSEHOOD
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:Quran 3:54 wrote:And they cheated/deceived and Allah cheated/deceived, and Allah (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers AlphDoti wrote:Makali1 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Makali1 wrote:Again, stick to the topic.
Do you believe, per the Quran, Sura, Hadith that Mohammed was the perfect human being whose works should be espoused?
Do you believe that Sharia Law is the perfect way of life for all? Absolutely yes!!! Thank you. That's all I needed to CONFIRM. Very soon, I will address what SHARIA LAW entails which I think will help Christian Kenyans wake up from their deep slumber. This is where propaganda has "reached" you. You've been studying crap thinking you're learning about Islam. You're listening to so-called experts in Islam. If you wanted to learn about MEDICINE, do you go to an ENEMY of the DOCTOR? So bring your argument. Brings facts, I'm all here for you. We're used to the kind of lies. IMPORTANT: ONE BOOK WRITTEN AGAINST ISLAM EVERYDAYA Christian surveyor, Professor Edward reported in the TIME Magazine of April 16, 1979 that in a span of 150 years, from 1800 CE to 1950 CE over 60,000 books have been written against Islam. It works out to more than one book against Islam everyday. Not mentioning the daily negative propaganda on TV and Radio. And now Internet is the new media and Youtube videos. This is the correct translation: Quran 3:54 " And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah." This verse talks about people making an intricate plan to carry out some secret purpose. The enemies of Allah are constantly doing that. But Allah - in whose hands is all good—has His plans also, against which the evil ones will have no chance whatever. Read 8:30, 13:42, and 27:50 for similar verses. #TRUTHISCLEARFROMFALSEHOOD 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Makali1 wrote:There's no propaganda or lies here. I asked you 3 questions which you answered in the affirmative. That's all I wanted to confirm.
To redeem yourself maybe you can start off by giving us a few examples of Islamic Law ie. Sharia.
a. What is the penalty for a woman who has been found guilty of adultery per the Islamic court?
b. What is the penalty for apostasy? The last laugh will be at you. Surely, you're new here  a). Adultery punishment: Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery." Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both ..must die." Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery... both must be put to death." Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself." Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore... she shall be burnt with fire." Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "...you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity." b). Apostasy. And I don't intent to re-envent the wheel. Read the answer here. John 8:4-8 wrote:
“Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?”
They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust.
@symbols I'm not surprised! You see, Christians all over the world use this verse to justify adultery and fornication. No wonder the Bible contains X Rated pornography, and to see @symbols use John 8:4-8 shows those rot in morals and ethics. Anyway, you answered you own question. They were trying to trap Jesus. John 8:6 clearly tells you " They were using this question as a trap". The scene in John 8:1-11 was surely a trap to make Jesus (pbuh) make a mistake. That's why he refused to give judgement AGAINST THE WOMAN. So Jesus (pbuh) refuses to stone the woman. HE REFUSED TO BE AN HYPOCRITE. The leaders of that time were not following the Law properly. Severally, he called them " hypocrites" Matthew 6:2, Matt 6:5, Matt 6:16, Matthew 15:7, Matthew 22:18, Matthew 23:13, Matthew 24:51, Mark 7:6 and Luke 13:15. So how could he punish the weakest person and while those causing corruption thrived? This was the message Jesus (pbuh) wanted to give to those people. Otherwise, he Jesus spoke highly of the Old Testament's Law. He never nullified the Laws of GOD in any way.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:Quran 3:54 wrote:And they cheated/deceived and Allah cheated/deceived, and Allah (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers AlphDoti wrote:Makali1 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Makali1 wrote:Again, stick to the topic.
Do you believe, per the Quran, Sura, Hadith that Mohammed was the perfect human being whose works should be espoused?
Do you believe that Sharia Law is the perfect way of life for all? Absolutely yes!!! Thank you. That's all I needed to CONFIRM. Very soon, I will address what SHARIA LAW entails which I think will help Christian Kenyans wake up from their deep slumber. This is where propaganda has "reached" you. You've been studying crap thinking you're learning about Islam. You're listening to so-called experts in Islam. If you wanted to learn about MEDICINE, do you go to an ENEMY of the DOCTOR? So bring your argument. Brings facts, I'm all here for you. We're used to the kind of lies. IMPORTANT: ONE BOOK WRITTEN AGAINST ISLAM EVERYDAYA Christian surveyor, Professor Edward reported in the TIME Magazine of April 16, 1979 that in a span of 150 years, from 1800 CE to 1950 CE over 60,000 books have been written against Islam. It works out to more than one book against Islam everyday. Not mentioning the daily negative propaganda on TV and Radio. And now Internet is the new media and Youtube videos. This is the correct translation: Quran 3:54 " And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah." This verse talks about people making an intricate plan to carry out some secret purpose. The enemies of Allah are constantly doing that. But Allah - in whose hands is all good—has His plans also, against which the evil ones will have no chance whatever. Read 8:30, 13:42, and 27:50 for similar verses. #TRUTHISCLEARFROMFALSEHOOD Have you ever spoken to some people and they smile sheepishly, showing you their teeth? When I see anybody talking to me while showing white teeth, I know they know nothing... First...  Then... 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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I see there are similarities between you and those who tried to trap Jesus! AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Makali1 wrote:There's no propaganda or lies here. I asked you 3 questions which you answered in the affirmative. That's all I wanted to confirm.
To redeem yourself maybe you can start off by giving us a few examples of Islamic Law ie. Sharia.
a. What is the penalty for a woman who has been found guilty of adultery per the Islamic court?
b. What is the penalty for apostasy? The last laugh will be at you. Surely, you're new here a). Adultery punishment: Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery." Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both ..must die." Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery... both must be put to death." Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself." Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore... she shall be burnt with fire." Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "...you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity." b). Apostasy. And I don't intent to re-envent the wheel. Read the answer here. John 8:4-8 wrote:
“Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?”
They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust.
@symbols I'm not surprised! You see, Christians all over the world use this verse to justify adultery and fornication. No wonder the Bible contains X Rated pornography, and to see @symbols use John 8:4-8 shows those rot in morals and ethics. Anyway, you answered you own question. They were trying to trap Jesus. John 8:6 clearly tells you " They were using this question as a trap". The scene in John 8:1-11 was surely a trap to make Jesus (pbuh) make a mistake. That's why he refused to give judgement AGAINST THE WOMAN. So Jesus (pbuh) refuses to stone the woman. HE REFUSED TO BE AN HYPOCRITE. The leaders of that time were not following the Law properly. Severally, he called them " hypocrites" Matthew 6:2, Matt 6:5, Matt 6:16, Matthew 15:7, Matthew 22:18, Matthew 23:13, Matthew 24:51, Mark 7:6 and Luke 13:15. So how could he punish the weakest person and while those causing corruption thrived? This was the message Jesus (pbuh) wanted to give to those people. Otherwise, he Jesus spoke highly of the Old Testament's Law. He never nullified the Laws of GOD in any way.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Quote:@symbols I'm not surprised!
You see, Christians all over the world use this verse to justify adultery and fornication. No wonder the Bible contains X Rated pornography, and to see @symbols use John 8:4-8 shows those rot in morals and ethics. You said somewhere else that fools say they follow Jesus then lie which is against Jesus' teachings Here you lie. But I wont say you lie against your prophet's teachings. No. You lie in accordance with his teachings. We all know who the Grand deceiver of all ages is. Yes, apart from Shaitan. And he did receive and relay prophecies from Shytan himself and admitted it!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Otherwise, he Jesus spoke highly of the Old Testament's Law. He never nullified the Laws of GOD in any way.
If only the Law had been applied when some fellow relayed a prophecy he admitted was from Satan! No wonder he became a god to his followers who glory in being in 'the fastest growing religion' 
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/13/2015 Posts: 73
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Jesus Christ was the fulfillment of Old Testament law. However due to your refusal to believe that Jesus Christ was God Himself on earth is the reason why you're still paying for your sins with your own blood. Jesus Christ was the perfect sacrifice. He died for our sins but conquered death by rising on the third day.
Nothing makes a Muslim blood boil like when Jesus Christ, The Lord Himself is mentioned!!
That is my final statement.
You can believe whatever you want to believe. You may deceive all to conquer all earthly land for Allah and establish Sharia Law. However, I'm so glad because Jesus Christ has already won the battle. After the Gentile dispensation He will turn his eyes upon the Jews and deliver them in a mighty victory!
It's amazing that as the Muslim world is burning everywhere, the House of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob still stands. Israel is enjoying the greatest peace in a long while. Meanwhile, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Iran, Iraq etc etc are in a shambolic mess.
The dome of the Mosque MUST come down and the Third Temple rebuilt. Amen!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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Makali1 wrote:Jesus Christ was the fulfillment of Old Testament law. However due to your refusal to believe that Jesus Christ was God Himself on earth is the reason why you're still paying for your sins with your own blood. Jesus Christ was the perfect sacrifice. He died for our sins but conquered death by rising on the third day.
Nothing makes a Muslim blood boil like when Jesus Christ, The Lord Himself is mentioned!!
That is my final statement.
You can believe whatever you want to believe. You may deceive all to conquer all earthly land for Allah and establish Sharia Law. However, I'm so glad because Jesus Christ has already won the battle. After the Gentile dispensation He will turn his eyes upon the Jews and deliver them in a mighty victory!
It's amazing that as the Muslim world is burning everywhere, the House of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob still stands. Israel is enjoying the greatest peace in a long while. Meanwhile, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Iran, Iraq etc etc are in a shambolic mess.
The dome of the Mosque MUST come down and the Third Temple rebuilt. Amen! I agree with this.
Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth , and the life. No one comes to the father except through me"
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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What proof is there, that Mohammed isn't God's prophet? And what proof is there, @AlphDoti, that Mohammed is God's prophet?
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