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AlphDoti
#301 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 7:29:17 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Makali1 wrote:
@AlphDoti, I know your modus operandi of wearing out other Christian wazuans who have posed debate questions regarding Islam.

I'm new here but have read through many religious topics. I have also spent a considerable amount of time researching on Islamic Doctrine. Kwa hivyo, huniwezi. I can smell the taqiyya from 10,000 miles away.

You spew the "tolerant, peaceful" Mecca verses here "for example there's no compulsion in Islam," to make people believe that Islam is peaceful yet you DECEITFULLY leave out the Medina verses which are the true, abrogated Islamic doctrine. The message Mohammed preached in Medina commanding his followers to chop off the heads and fingers of the kafir, deceive them, ambush them, enslave, rape and other atrocities. A true Muslim believes Mohammed was the perfect human being and that all Muslims should aspire to do the works he did.

Stick to the topic. Who mentioned 9/11? I'm talking about SHARIA LAW which is political Islam that outlines the treatment of Kafirs. If you deny Sharia Law then you are also an INFIDEL. But again, I won't be surprised if you deny because the Koran allows you to deceive the kafir.

So do you, or do you not accept SHARIA law as the perfect political system??

Your days of taqiyya, kitman, tawriya, muruna are numbered.

@Makali1 so what is this holabaloo about deception? Is this something new that just heard about last week? For your information, in war, it is the oldest trick in human history.

Even your Bible has a few of those:
(a) "... I make peace, and CREATE EVIL ..." ISAIAH 45:7
(b) "But the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and AN EVIL SPIRIT from the Lord troubled him." 1 SAMUEL 16:14
(c) "And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, that they should BELIEVE A LIE." 2 THESSALONIANS 2:11
(d). In Genesis 12. Abraham instructed his wife Sarah to tell people in Egypt that she was his sister instead of his wife. Why?

Military deception
Quote:
Military deception refers to attempts to mislead enemy forces during warfare.
This is usually achieved by creating or amplifying an artificial fog of war via psychological operations, information warfare, visual deception and other methods. As a form of strategic use of information (disinformation), it overlaps with psychological warfare. To the degree that any enemy that falls for the deception will lose confidence when it is revealed, he may hesitate when confronted with the truth.


Deception in warfare dates back to early history.
Quote:
The Art of War, an ancient Chinese military treatise, puts great emphasis on the tactic. In modern times military deception has developed as a fully fledged doctrine. Misinformation and visual deception were employed during World War I and came into even greater prominence during World War II.
In the buildup to the 1944 invasion of Normandy the Allies executed one of the largest deceptions in military history, Operation Bodyguard, helping them achieve full tactical surprise.


Examples of deception activities employed throughout the history of warfare:
Quote:
Feigned retreat
Leading the enemy, through a false sense of security, into a pre-positioned ambush.
Fictional units
Creating entirely fictional forces or exaggerating the size of an army.
Smoke screen
A tactical deception involving smoke, fog, or other forms of cover to hide battlefield movements.
Trojan horse
Gaining admittance to a fortified area under false pretences, to later admit a larger attacking force.
Strategic envelopment
A small force distracts the enemy while a much larger force moves to attack from the rear. A favoured tactic of Napoleon.


Source wikipedia
AlphDoti
#302 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 7:36:42 PM
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Location: Kenya
Behemoth wrote:
Dear Alphdoti,

I would like to respond to your article item by item but please tell me educate me on what "pbuh" means & its significance.

My response in black

@Behemoth, thank you for asking me this question, I appreciate smile

You asked what "pbuh" and its significance. The abbreviation "phub" is short form of "peace be upon him". In Arabic is "sallalahu aleihi wa salam" or s.a.w.

This is a prayer addressed to God. Because the messengers Jesus Christ and Muhammad and all other messengers (peace be upon them all) have done so much favour to us and to all the mankind. This favour we cannot repay. We cannot pay them back in any way. All we can do is the prayer.

So to us Muslims, that is the prayer that reminds us. So do we feel hesitant even to say that short prayer? No, we are so happy to pray for them and thank God for them.

Us Muslims we have been commanded by Allah to do this: " ...O you that believe! Send your blessings on him, and salute him with all respect. " Quran 33:56

There is logic to this: When Salah is mentioned for somebody to Allah, (i.e. when Allah does "Salah" on someone) it means:
1. Allah loves that person.
2. Allah praises that person.
3. Allah sends blessings, His Pleasure and Mercy on that person.

Same case for us to that person.

I hope that is clear?
Makali1
#303 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 7:39:02 PM
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Joined: 4/13/2015
Posts: 73
Again, stick to the topic.

Do you believe, per the Quran, Sura, Hadith that Mohammed was the perfect human being whose works should be espoused?

Do you believe that Sharia Law is the perfect way of life for all?


I see your reply to @Behemoth, but I won't intervene as of now. Later, I will EXPOSE the lie that about the Jesus of Islam (pbuh). Yet you will see Muslims (again, using deceit) sprinkling Jesus and Bible verses here and there in their dialogue to obtain legitimacy, they even add "pbuh" so that the DECEIVED people can think "oh Muslims believe in Jesus. Surely, Islam is not hateful..." Nonsense! Islam Doctrine is a death cult straight from the pits of hell.

OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, the SON OF GOD, WHO DIED FOR THE REMISSION OF OUR SINS AND WAS RAISED FROM THE DEAD, WITHOUT WHOM NO ONE SHALL SEE GOD, and Islam's "Jesus pbuh" ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON!!!



AlphDoti
#304 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 7:42:05 PM
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Location: Kenya
Makali1 wrote:
Again, stick to the topic.

Do you believe, per the Quran, Sura, Hadith that Mohammed was the perfect human being whose works should be espoused?

Do you believe that Sharia Law is the perfect way of life for all?

Absolutely yes!!!
Makali1
#305 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 7:50:08 PM
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Joined: 4/13/2015
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AlphDoti wrote:
Makali1 wrote:
Again, stick to the topic.

Do you believe, per the Quran, Sura, Hadith that Mohammed was the perfect human being whose works should be espoused?

Do you believe that Sharia Law is the perfect way of life for all?

Absolutely yes!!!



Thank you. That's all I needed to CONFIRM.

Very soon, I will address what SHARIA LAW entails which I think will help Christian Kenyans wake up from their deep slumber.


AlphDoti
#306 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 8:02:34 PM
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Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Makali1 wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Makali1 wrote:
Again, stick to the topic.

Do you believe, per the Quran, Sura, Hadith that Mohammed was the perfect human being whose works should be espoused?

Do you believe that Sharia Law is the perfect way of life for all?

Absolutely yes!!!

Thank you. That's all I needed to CONFIRM.

Very soon, I will address what SHARIA LAW entails which I think will help Christian Kenyans wake up from their deep slumber.

This is where propaganda has "reached" you. You've been studying crap thinking you're learning about Islam. You're listening to so-called experts in Islam. If you wanted to learn about MEDICINE, do you go to an ENEMY of the DOCTOR?

So bring your argument. Brings facts, I'm all here for you. We're used to the kind of lies.

IMPORTANT: ONE BOOK WRITTEN AGAINST ISLAM EVERYDAY
A Christian surveyor, Professor Edward reported in the TIME Magazine of April 16, 1979 that in a span of 150 years, from 1800 CE to 1950 CE over 60,000 books have been written against Islam. It works out to more than one book against Islam everyday. Not mentioning the daily negative propaganda on TV and Radio. And now Internet is the new media and Youtube videos.
Makali1
#307 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 8:32:44 PM
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Joined: 4/13/2015
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There's no propaganda or lies here. I asked you 3 questions which you answered in the affirmative. That's all I wanted to confirm.

Question 1: Is deception allowed in Islam. This you didn't answer directly but pointed took bits and pieces of the Bible to justify taqiyya in Islam.

2. Was Mohammed a perfect human being that all Muslims should aspire to replicating his works? Your answer: Absolutely yes.

3. Is Sharia Law the perfect way of life, the best political system? Your answer: Absolutely yes.

To redeem yourself maybe you can start off by giving us a few examples of Islamic Law ie. Sharia.

a. What is the penalty for a woman who has been found guilty of adultery per the Islamic court?

b. What is the penalty for apostasy?

symbols
#308 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 8:38:22 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
Quran 3:54 wrote:
And they cheated/deceived and Allah cheated/deceived, and Allah (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers


AlphDoti wrote:
Makali1 wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Makali1 wrote:
Again, stick to the topic.

Do you believe, per the Quran, Sura, Hadith that Mohammed was the perfect human being whose works should be espoused?

Do you believe that Sharia Law is the perfect way of life for all?

Absolutely yes!!!

Thank you. That's all I needed to CONFIRM.

Very soon, I will address what SHARIA LAW entails which I think will help Christian Kenyans wake up from their deep slumber.

This is where propaganda has "reached" you. You've been studying crap thinking you're learning about Islam. You're listening to so-called experts in Islam. If you wanted to learn about MEDICINE, do you go to an ENEMY of the DOCTOR?

So bring your argument. Brings facts, I'm all here for you. We're used to the kind of lies.

IMPORTANT: ONE BOOK WRITTEN AGAINST ISLAM EVERYDAY
A Christian surveyor, Professor Edward reported in the TIME Magazine of April 16, 1979 that in a span of 150 years, from 1800 CE to 1950 CE over 60,000 books have been written against Islam. It works out to more than one book against Islam everyday. Not mentioning the daily negative propaganda on TV and Radio. And now Internet is the new media and Youtube videos.


AlphDoti
#309 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 8:52:56 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Makali1 wrote:
There's no propaganda or lies here. I asked you 3 questions which you answered in the affirmative. That's all I wanted to confirm.

To redeem yourself maybe you can start off by giving us a few examples of Islamic Law ie. Sharia.

a. What is the penalty for a woman who has been found guilty of adultery per the Islamic court?

b. What is the penalty for apostasy?

The last laugh will be at you. Surely, you're new here smile

a). Adultery punishment:
Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery."
Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both ..must die."
Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery... both must be put to death."
Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself."
Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore... she shall be burnt with fire."
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "...you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity."

b). Apostasy. And I don't intent to re-envent the wheel.
Read the answer here.
symbols
#310 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2015 8:56:10 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
AlphDoti wrote:
Makali1 wrote:
There's no propaganda or lies here. I asked you 3 questions which you answered in the affirmative. That's all I wanted to confirm.

To redeem yourself maybe you can start off by giving us a few examples of Islamic Law ie. Sharia.

a. What is the penalty for a woman who has been found guilty of adultery per the Islamic court?

b. What is the penalty for apostasy?

The last laugh will be at you. Surely, you're new here smile

a). Adultery punishment:
Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery."
Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both ..must die."
Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery... both must be put to death."
Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself."
Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore... she shall be burnt with fire."
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "...you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity."

b). Apostasy. And I don't intent to re-envent the wheel.
Read the answer here.


John 8:4-8 wrote:

“Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?”

They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust.
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