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guru267
#281 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 8:07:28 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 1/21/2010
Posts: 6,675
Location: Nairobi
symbols wrote:


John 16:1-4 wrote:

I have told you all this so that you will not turn away from the truth. You will be thrown out of the synagogue. In fact, the time is coming when someone may kill you. And they will think they are doing God a favor. They will do things like that because they do not know the Father or me. Why have I told you this? So that when their time comes, you will remember that I warned you about them. I didn’t tell you this from the beginning because I was with you.


Jesus was definitely talking about the crusaders here.

Bukhari B.52,N.177 wrote:
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour {of the Last Judgment} will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.



Jews brought this on themselves when they decided to invade palestine in 1948. Self defense is permissible in the eyes of God!

Before this invasion of Palestine Jews always found shelter in Muslim lands while Christian crusaders slaughtered them mercilessly.

Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Muriel
#282 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 8:09:40 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 11/19/2009
Posts: 3,142
guru267 wrote:
UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:
In however much you will try to portray Islam to be a peaceful and good religion, i'd rather worship a cow or a stone carving facing a mountain rather than worship a god through a prophet that massacred so many innocent human beings. in responding to all these issues, you should ask yourself why Islam is the only religion that can be manipulated so easily to make extremists?????? all the other religions how comes the believers are not as indoctrinated as Muslims? if Islam never existed, the world would be very peaceful.


And the ignorant open their mouth again....

How many innocent people did the beloved Joshua massacre as he entered Jericho?
How many innocent people did the beloved Moses massacre as he led his people to the "promised land"??
How many innocent people did the beloved David massacre as he defended his kingdom???

As for peaceful religions there is no religion to have ever existed that has caused more death than Christianity...

The Roman Catholic Hitler massacred how many Jews again??
How many innocent people did the crusaders kill for not converting to Christianity??
Isn't the most wanted man globally is the leader of a Christian terrorist organization called the "Lord Resistance Army"??

NKT!!


You are not supposed to be speaking where men are discussing. You are to be seen and not heard.

Where is your religion?
ngapat
#283 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 8:12:31 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 12/11/2006
Posts: 930
guru267 wrote:
ngapat wrote:

Been watching youtube clips by Ayaan hirsi Ali and finding alot of truths.
Watch her arguments about islam not being a religion of peace and decide


Propaganda from a misguided woman mistook Arab culture for Islam! Liar Shame on you Liar Shame on you Liar


In my view this is not propaganda by any means. Violence is happening while invoking the name of the founder of Islam and Allah with justification from the Qur'an.
Muslim always play victims when their ideologies are challenged by claiming that they are being offended, targeted, mistreated and under siege.
Anybody in Islam can nowadays call for Jihad even when they have domestic disagreements with their neighbours
“Invest in yourself. Your career is the engine of your wealth.”
guru267
#284 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 8:16:44 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 1/21/2010
Posts: 6,675
Location: Nairobi
Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:
In however much you will try to portray Islam to be a peaceful and good religion, i'd rather worship a cow or a stone carving facing a mountain rather than worship a god through a prophet that massacred so many innocent human beings. in responding to all these issues, you should ask yourself why Islam is the only religion that can be manipulated so easily to make extremists?????? all the other religions how comes the believers are not as indoctrinated as Muslims? if Islam never existed, the world would be very peaceful.


And the ignorant open their mouth again....

How many innocent people did the beloved Joshua massacre as he entered Jericho?
How many innocent people did the beloved Moses massacre as he led his people to the "promised land"??
How many innocent people did the beloved David massacre as he defended his kingdom???

As for peaceful religions there is no religion to have ever existed that has caused more death than Christianity...

The Roman Catholic Hitler massacred how many Jews again??
How many innocent people did the crusaders kill for not converting to Christianity??
Isn't the most wanted man globally is the leader of a Christian terrorist organization called the "Lord Resistance Army"??

NKT!!


You are not supposed to be speaking where men are discussing. You are to be seen and not heard.

Where is your religion?


You must be mistaking Islam for Christianity..

Those are the words of Paul and his companions!

1 Corinthians 14:34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.

Timothy 2:12 do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet


Our prophet empowered women like never before seen in History..
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
symbols
#285 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 8:21:51 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
symbols wrote:

John 16:1-4 wrote:

I have told you all this so that you will not turn away from the truth. You will be thrown out of the synagogue. In fact, the time is coming when someone may kill you. And they will think they are doing God a favor. They will do things like that because they do not know the Father or me. Why have I told you this? So that when their time comes, you will remember that I warned you about them. I didn’t tell you this from the beginning because I was with you.


guru267 wrote:

Jesus was definitely talking about the crusaders here.

Muhammad denies and doesn't know the Father and the Son.Islamic terrorists are justifying their actions with the Quran,Muhammad's teachings and actions.

symbols wrote:

Bukhari B.52,N.177 wrote:
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour {of the Last Judgment} will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.



guru267 wrote:

Jews brought this on themselves when they decided to invade palestine in 1948. Self defense is permissible in the eyes of God!

Before this invasion of Palestine Jews always found shelter in Muslim lands while Christian crusaders slaughtered them mercilessly.



1948? According to Islam the hour of the Last Judgment will not come until Muslims are killing Jews.

Muriel
#286 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 8:22:14 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 11/19/2009
Posts: 3,142
guru267 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:
In however much you will try to portray Islam to be a peaceful and good religion, i'd rather worship a cow or a stone carving facing a mountain rather than worship a god through a prophet that massacred so many innocent human beings. in responding to all these issues, you should ask yourself why Islam is the only religion that can be manipulated so easily to make extremists?????? all the other religions how comes the believers are not as indoctrinated as Muslims? if Islam never existed, the world would be very peaceful.


And the ignorant open their mouth again....

How many innocent people did the beloved Joshua massacre as he entered Jericho?
How many innocent people did the beloved Moses massacre as he led his people to the "promised land"??
How many innocent people did the beloved David massacre as he defended his kingdom???

As for peaceful religions there is no religion to have ever existed that has caused more death than Christianity...

The Roman Catholic Hitler massacred how many Jews again??
How many innocent people did the crusaders kill for not converting to Christianity??
Isn't the most wanted man globally is the leader of a Christian terrorist organization called the "Lord Resistance Army"??

NKT!!


You are not supposed to be speaking where men are discussing. You are to be seen and not heard.

Where is your religion?


You must be mistaking Islam for Christianity..

Those are the words of Paul and his companions!

1 Corinthians 14:34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.

Timothy 2:12 do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet


Our prophet empowered women like never before seen in History..


Allow me to rephrase.

You are not supposed to hang around men who are not your relatives let alone bandy words with them.

Where is your religion?
guru267
#287 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 8:22:33 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 1/21/2010
Posts: 6,675
Location: Nairobi
ngapat wrote:
guru267 wrote:
ngapat wrote:

Been watching youtube clips by Ayaan hirsi Ali and finding alot of truths.
Watch her arguments about islam not being a religion of peace and decide


Propaganda from a misguided woman mistook Arab culture for Islam! Liar Shame on you Liar Shame on you Liar


In my view this is not propaganda by any means. Violence is happening while invoking the name of the founder of Islam and Allah with justification from the Qur'an.
Muslim always play victims when their ideologies are challenged by claiming that they are being offended, targeted, mistreated and under siege.
Anybody in Islam can nowadays call for Jihad even when they have domestic disagreements with their neighbours


There are 1.6 Billion Muslims and less than 1 Million "Islamic" terrorists...

Percentage of Muslims who kill in the name of God = 0.06%

Percentage of Muslims who go about their daily lives in peace = 99.94%

Kindly demonstrate with numbers how Islam is the problem... Numbers never lie!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
symbols
#288 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 8:35:28 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
guru267 wrote:
ngapat wrote:

Been watching youtube clips by Ayaan hirsi Ali and finding alot of truths.
Watch her arguments about islam not being a religion of peace and decide


Propaganda from a misguided woman mistook Arab culture for Islam! Liar Shame on you Liar Shame on you Liar


Propaganda? What propaganda?
muganda
#289 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 11:07:11 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/15/2006
Posts: 3,907
ngapat wrote:


Gosh! That woman, the arguments...
She would have to be an apostate (or heretic, or excommunicated). Any religion just can't handle that brazen truth!

UpcomingPaperChaser
#290 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 11:29:57 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/20/2015
Posts: 489
Location: Nairobi

[/quote]

There are 1.6 Billion Muslims and less than 1 Million "Islamic" terrorists...

Percentage of Muslims who kill in the name of God = 0.06%

Percentage of Muslims who go about their daily lives in peace = 99.94%

Kindly demonstrate with numbers how Islam is the problem... Numbers never lie![/quote]

Using numbers to confuse us isnt good at all. The % of Muslims who are misguided to kill in God's name is low but very lethal.

Why we still think that Muslims are terrorists is because as they continue maiming and slaughtering innocent people, the Muslim worshipers are all quiet like nothing is happening. If you want us to distance you from such allegations, why dont Muslims in the world unite and say with one voice that Islam is against the terror activities of Al Shabaab, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram. It is only Muslims that will help win the war against terrorism because you need to distance the religion from the manipulation of these terrorists and tell them not to call themselves Muslims, otherwise, we will still see most Muslims are potential radicals and terrorists.
Enjoy every moment of your life, you never know when your time will come.
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