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Mumias FY 2014
streetwise
#421 Posted : Friday, April 10, 2015 2:31:00 PM
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Lakini what did you expect. In GM you cant suddenly discuss an item that was not in the agenda. The items that are dealt with must have been notified before and most importantly on the agenda.
koxwex
#422 Posted : Saturday, April 11, 2015 5:41:03 PM
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streetwise wrote:
Lakini what did you expect. In GM you cant suddenly discuss an item that was not in the agenda. The items that are dealt with must have been notified before and most importantly on the agenda.

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#423 Posted : Saturday, April 11, 2015 5:50:30 PM
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So there will be 2 shares for each 1 held with a discounted price of between 1.3 and 1.5.

This will be like 37.5% discount if not more . Wow.

And the farmers will be encouraged to buy ..I see money coming
mawinder
#424 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2015 8:32:32 AM
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streetwise wrote:
So there will be 2 shares for each 1 held with a discounted price of between 1.3 and 1.5.

This will be like 37.5% discount if not more . Wow.

And the farmers will be encouraged to buy ..I see money coming

Farmers own very few shares. They sold them over 10 years ago to village brokers at 2 bob who would in turn sell them at the NSE.Where did you get information on the rights pricing?
derick
#425 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2015 9:05:50 AM
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mawinder wrote:
streetwise wrote:
So there will be 2 shares for each 1 held with a discounted price of between 1.3 and 1.5.

This will be like 37.5% discount if not more . Wow.

And the farmers will be encouraged to buy ..I see money coming

Farmers own very few shares. They sold them over 10 years ago to village brokers at 2 bob who would in turn sell them at the NSE.Where did you get information on the rights pricing?

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streetwise
#426 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2015 1:32:56 PM
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Estate; if they released 3 shares and want to raise 4b shillings then 4 devide by 3.
mawinder
#427 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2015 2:37:28 PM
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streetwise wrote:
Estate; if they released 3 shares and want to raise 4b shillings then 4 devide by 3.

How about the government's 1b?Is it for shares or is it a loan?
Pesa Nane
#428 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:38:14 AM
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procrastinating

Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
streetwise
#429 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2015 11:12:04 AM
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Makes be believe for sure the rights need to be at 1.50
stock.enigma
#430 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2015 1:36:09 PM
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streetwise wrote:
Makes be believe for sure the rights need to be at 1.50


If they offer at Ksh 1.5, they can only raise half the money required. They are creating 1.5 m new shares 100% more than current. This means they will propose the rights at 1:1. assume the shares are sold at Ksh 2, they are likely to raise Ksh 3b inclusive of costs. My take is, this is unlikely to succeed in meeting the objective.
streetwise
#431 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2015 2:41:54 PM
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Of course if the debtors do not ask for their money may be they do not need the 4B.

Initially my understanding was they would offer 2:1 rights.

The alternate is to push the share price up let’s say to kitu 3.50 and the offer the rights at 2.70

Anything is possible.
stock.enigma
#432 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2015 2:49:09 PM
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streetwise wrote:
Of course if the debtors do not ask for their money may be they do not need the 4B.

Initially my understanding was they would offer 2:1 rights.

The alternate is to push the share price up let’s say to kitu 3.50 and the offer the rights at 2.70

Anything is possible.


Pushing this share to above ks. 2.50 is unattainable at this point in time.
Sober
#433 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:07:24 PM
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mawinder wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Estate; if they released 3 shares and want to raise 4b shillings then 4 devide by 3.

How about the government's 1b?Is it for shares or is it a loan?


Th government would rather put it as a loan and hope that the company recovers and repays them rather than take up more rights in this. From management point of view taking up share is better that treating the 1bn as a loan.
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mlennyma
#434 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:15:22 PM
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streetwise wrote:
So there will be 2 shares for each 1 held with a discounted price of between 1.3 and 1.5.

This will be like 37.5% discount if not more . Wow.

And the farmers will be encouraged to buy ..I see money coming

I will watch this from very far.if good counters are coughing how will a salvage fair?
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
sqft
#435 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2015 5:27:04 PM
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Mumias lays off 100 staff at closed water bottling plant
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
mlennyma
#436 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2015 5:55:30 PM
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The total debt here is enough to set another debt free miller.
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Aguytrying
#437 Posted : Tuesday, April 14, 2015 6:12:06 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
The total debt here is enough to set another debt free miller.


even gov is tired of rescuing it. it might be too late for this company
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heri
#438 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2015 11:31:28 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
The total debt here is enough to set another debt free miller.


even gov is tired of rescuing it. it might be too late for this company


How are the other sugar millers doing? is there really potential for turnaround?
mlennyma
#439 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2015 2:47:25 PM
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heri wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
The total debt here is enough to set another debt free miller.


even gov is tired of rescuing it. it might be too late for this company


How are the other sugar millers doing? is there really potential for turnaround?

the western sugar farmers cannot sustain constant sugarcane supply at full operational capacity for all millers around year round.make mumias a beer brewer.or make it sole sugar importer in kenya.there can be hope
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mlennyma
#440 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2015 10:26:39 PM
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heri wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
The total debt here is enough to set another debt free miller.


even gov is tired of rescuing it. it might be too late for this company


How are the other sugar millers doing? is there really potential for turnaround?

the other millers are struggling with billions of debt with some as high as over 30billion
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