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Swenani
#81 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 4:02:13 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined.

So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship?


I want to explore with you.

'We' definitely implies a relationship.


Thank you.

How would you define a relationship?


Connection.


Am finding it so hard to define a relationship. Like now, if I use the definition you've offered I find myself in the same situation. For example what kind of connection? Am connected to all Kenyans, but do I have a relationship with them?


Yes, If you live in Kenya then you are connected to other Kenyans geographically, if you are Kenyan then you are connected to other Kenyans through nationality.

You are in a relationship with everything and everyone


I think that in the middle of the connection between connection and relationship there is a valve. Flow from one is not cut off from the other yet the reverse is hindered.


Connection= Relationship but
Relationship≠ connection

How is that possible in relationship?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Muriel
#82 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 4:05:06 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined.

So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship?


I want to explore with you.

'We' definitely implies a relationship.


Thank you.

How would you define a relationship?


Connection.


Am finding it so hard to define a relationship. Like now, if I use the definition you've offered I find myself in the same situation. For example what kind of connection? Am connected to all Kenyans, but do I have a relationship with them?


Yes, If you live in Kenya then you are connected to other Kenyans geographically, if you are Kenyan then you are connected to other Kenyans through nationality.

You are in a relationship with everything and everyone


I think that in the middle of the connection between connection and relationship there is a valve. Flow from one is not cut off from the other yet the reverse is hindered.


Connection= Relationship but
Relationship≠ connection

How is that possible in relationship?


No, the other way round.
Swenani
#83 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 4:22:18 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined.

So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship?


I want to explore with you.

'We' definitely implies a relationship.


Thank you.

How would you define a relationship?


Connection.


Am finding it so hard to define a relationship. Like now, if I use the definition you've offered I find myself in the same situation. For example what kind of connection? Am connected to all Kenyans, but do I have a relationship with them?


Yes, If you live in Kenya then you are connected to other Kenyans geographically, if you are Kenyan then you are connected to other Kenyans through nationality.

You are in a relationship with everything and everyone


I think that in the middle of the connection between connection and relationship there is a valve. Flow from one is not cut off from the other yet the reverse is hindered.


Connection= Relationship but
Relationship≠ connection

How is that possible in relationship?


No, the other way round.


Its still impossible;In your own words you defined relationship as a connection but you are again stating that a connection doesn't necessarily imply a relationship!

What is the difference/similarities between a relationship and a connection?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
tycho
#84 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 5:26:31 PM
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Swenani wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined.

So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship?


I want to explore with you.

'We' definitely implies a relationship.


Thank you.

How would you define a relationship?


Connection.


Am finding it so hard to define a relationship. Like now, if I use the definition you've offered I find myself in the same situation. For example what kind of connection? Am connected to all Kenyans, but do I have a relationship with them?


Yes, If you live in Kenya then you are connected to other Kenyans geographically, if you are Kenyan then you are connected to other Kenyans through nationality.

You are in a relationship with everything and everyone


Meaning am connected to everything and everyone?
tycho
#85 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 7:46:48 PM
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I'd define a relationship as the path followed by any two or more Mindsets interacting, causing effects, and in turn being influenced by past effects.

For me, a connection is necessary for a relationship, but not all connections are relationships.

That is, the difference between a connection and a relationship is that a connection is a potential relationship. Being a Kenyan am connected to all Kenyans though I relate with only a few.
Swenani
#86 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:12:20 PM
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tycho wrote:
Swenani wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined.

So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship?


I want to explore with you.

'We' definitely implies a relationship.


Thank you.

How would you define a relationship?


Connection.


Am finding it so hard to define a relationship. Like now, if I use the definition you've offered I find myself in the same situation. For example what kind of connection? Am connected to all Kenyans, but do I have a relationship with them?


Yes, If you live in Kenya then you are connected to other Kenyans geographically, if you are Kenyan then you are connected to other Kenyans through nationality.

You are in a relationship with everything and everyone


Meaning am connected to everything and everyone?


Yes
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
tycho
#87 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:40:34 PM
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A relationship is also a means of confirming, disproving, and creating experience.
tycho
#88 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:56:20 PM
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The mind, therefore has no power whatsoever, neither do people have power outside relationships. Relationships are the only axes of power.

People have no minds, the universe has only one mind, what people have are 'mind prints'.
tycho
#89 Posted : Saturday, April 11, 2015 9:13:23 AM
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tycho wrote:
The mind, therefore has no power whatsoever, neither do people have power outside relationships. Relationships are the only axes of power.

People have no minds, the universe has only one mind, what people have are 'mind prints'.


The more I seek to know and understand the mind, the more am amazed. So far, I am almost certain that there's nothing like 'mental illness'.

And 'God' is most probably a metaphor for the mind.
tycho
#90 Posted : Saturday, April 11, 2015 9:15:48 AM
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Oh! I think the mind is powerful by itself.
tycho
#91 Posted : Thursday, July 23, 2015 12:51:22 PM
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It seems that the 'struggle' has just began https://edge.org/convers...n-the-philosophy-of-mind
tycho
#92 Posted : Sunday, July 26, 2015 8:44:40 PM
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mpobiz
#93 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2015 11:31:50 AM
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tycho wrote:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2015/07/26/is-your-brain-really-necessary-revisited/#.VbUShzOEYT8

Da f*q! Interesting article. Kichwa maji is not an insult anymore.
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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