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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:What is tickling you, brother? 1. My unconscious need for self defence even when it's unnecessary 2. Your seemingly unconscious filtration of information 3. Anticipated flow of conversation
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:What is tickling you, brother? 1. My unconscious need for self defence even when it's unnecessary 2. Your seemingly unconscious filtration of information 3. Anticipated flow of conversation 1. Is it more efficient to be in self defence mode? 2. my unconscious filtration of data is conscious. 3. anticipation implies structure. Conscious.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'. You already know and anticipate the flow of information if we were to have this conversation. So we leave it here?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:What is tickling you, brother? 1. My unconscious need for self defence even when it's unnecessary 2. Your seemingly unconscious filtration of information 3. Anticipated flow of conversation 1. Is it more efficient to be in self defence mode? 2. my unconscious filtration of data is conscious. 3. anticipation implies structure. Conscious. It may not be always efficient to be on self defense mode.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'. You already know and anticipate the flow of information if we were to have this conversation. So we leave it here? Maybe.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'. You already know and anticipate the flow of information if we were to have this conversation. So we leave it here? Maybe. Right. I agree. So why prefer to think on sub-optimal modes?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'. You already know and anticipate the flow of information if we were to have this conversation. So we leave it here? Maybe. Right. I agree. So why prefer to think on sub-optimal modes? I don't know why you'd prefer such modes. Like conscious or unconscious filtration of information. Maybe you should volunteer some answers.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Our ideas on what the mind is, whether it exists or not, and how we relate to it need to be reexamined. Most of what has been said is very likely to be erroneous.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'. You already know and anticipate the flow of information if we were to have this conversation. So we leave it here? Maybe. Right. I agree. So why prefer to think on sub-optimal modes? I don't know why you'd prefer such modes. Like conscious or unconscious filtration of information. Maybe you should volunteer some answers. Hey! I am the one who prefers such modes? Me?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'. You already know and anticipate the flow of information if we were to have this conversation. So we leave it here? Maybe. Right. I agree. So why prefer to think on sub-optimal modes? I don't know why you'd prefer such modes. Like conscious or unconscious filtration of information. Maybe you should volunteer some answers. Hey! I am the one who prefers such modes? Me? Now that much has changed in my perception and thought I no longer wish to be involved in accusations and defenses. Let me remind you that I surrendered from 'push and shove' threads ago.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'. You already know and anticipate the flow of information if we were to have this conversation. So we leave it here? Maybe. Right. I agree. So why prefer to think on sub-optimal modes? I don't know why you'd prefer such modes. Like conscious or unconscious filtration of information. Maybe you should volunteer some answers. Hey! I am the one who prefers such modes? Me? Now that much has changed in my perception and thought I no longer wish to be involved in accusations and defenses. Let me remind you that I surrendered from 'push and shove' threads ago. I am grateful for the changes in your perception and thought. For I had no answers to volunteer, anyway. So, what do we do now?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined.
So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined.
So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship? I want to explore with you. 'We' definitely implies a relationship.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined.
So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship? I want to explore with you. 'We' definitely implies a relationship. Thank you. How would you define a relationship?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined.
So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship? I want to explore with you. 'We' definitely implies a relationship. Thank you. How would you define a relationship? Connection.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined.
So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship? I want to explore with you. 'We' definitely implies a relationship. Thank you. How would you define a relationship? Connection. Am finding it so hard to define a relationship. Like now, if I use the definition you've offered I find myself in the same situation. For example what kind of connection? Am connected to all Kenyans, but do I have a relationship with them?
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined.
So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship? I want to explore with you. 'We' definitely implies a relationship. Thank you. How would you define a relationship? Connection. Am finding it so hard to define a relationship. Like now, if I use the definition you've offered I find myself in the same situation. For example what kind of connection? Am connected to all Kenyans, but do I have a relationship with them? Yes, If you live in Kenya then you are connected to other Kenyans geographically, if you are Kenyan then you are connected to other Kenyans through nationality. You are in a relationship with everything and everyone If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined.
So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship? I want to explore with you. 'We' definitely implies a relationship. Thank you. How would you define a relationship? Connection. Am finding it so hard to define a relationship. Like now, if I use the definition you've offered I find myself in the same situation. For example what kind of connection? Am connected to all Kenyans, but do I have a relationship with them? Yes, If you live in Kenya then you are connected to other Kenyans geographically, if you are Kenyan then you are connected to other Kenyans through nationality. You are in a relationship with everything and everyone I think that in the middle of the connection between connection and relationship there is a valve. Flow from one is not cut off from the other yet the reverse is hindered.
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