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Muriel		#61 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 1:54:13 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142		Mtu Biz wrote: Mtu Biz, Even Mr. Francis' crew are suspicious of this stuff. This is not play. A Catholic priest in Northern Ireland cautioned against practicing yoga and receiving Indian head massages, saying that those who take such risks with their “spiritual health” are opening themselves up to “Satan and the Fallen Angels.”
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tycho		#62 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:02:41 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		Muriel wrote: What is tickling you, brother? 1. My unconscious need for self defence even when it's unnecessary 2. Your seemingly unconscious filtration of information 3. Anticipated flow of conversation
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tycho		#63 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:07:19 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		Muriel wrote: Mtu Biz wrote: Mtu Biz, Even Mr. Francis' crew are suspicious of this stuff. This is not play. A Catholic priest in Northern Ireland cautioned against practicing yoga and receiving Indian head massages, saying that those who take such risks with their “spiritual health” are opening themselves up to “Satan and the Fallen Angels.” My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'.
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Muriel		#64 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:28:27 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142		tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: What is tickling you, brother? 1. My unconscious need for self defence even when it's unnecessary 2. Your seemingly unconscious filtration of information 3. Anticipated flow of conversation 1. Is it more efficient to be in self defence mode? 2. my unconscious filtration of data is conscious. 3. anticipation implies structure. Conscious.
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Muriel		#65 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:32:49 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142		tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: Mtu Biz wrote: Mtu Biz, Even Mr. Francis' crew are suspicious of this stuff. This is not play. A Catholic priest in Northern Ireland cautioned against practicing yoga and receiving Indian head massages, saying that those who take such risks with their “spiritual health” are opening themselves up to “Satan and the Fallen Angels.” My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'. You already know and anticipate the flow of information if we were to have this conversation. So we leave it here?
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tycho		#66 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:33:33 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: What is tickling you, brother? 1. My unconscious need for self defence even when it's unnecessary 2. Your seemingly unconscious filtration of information 3. Anticipated flow of conversation 1. Is it more efficient to be in self defence mode? 2. my unconscious filtration of data is conscious. 3. anticipation implies structure. Conscious. It may not be always efficient to be on self defense mode.
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tycho		#67 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:35:04 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: Mtu Biz wrote: Mtu Biz, Even Mr. Francis' crew are suspicious of this stuff. This is not play. A Catholic priest in Northern Ireland cautioned against practicing yoga and receiving Indian head massages, saying that those who take such risks with their “spiritual health” are opening themselves up to “Satan and the Fallen Angels.” My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'. You already know and anticipate the flow of information if we were to have this conversation. So we leave it here? Maybe.
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Muriel		#68 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:37:36 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142		tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: Mtu Biz wrote: Mtu Biz, Even Mr. Francis' crew are suspicious of this stuff. This is not play. A Catholic priest in Northern Ireland cautioned against practicing yoga and receiving Indian head massages, saying that those who take such risks with their “spiritual health” are opening themselves up to “Satan and the Fallen Angels.” My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'. You already know and anticipate the flow of information if we were to have this conversation. So we leave it here? Maybe. Right. I agree. So why prefer to think on sub-optimal modes?
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tycho		#69 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:42:26 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: Mtu Biz wrote: Mtu Biz, Even Mr. Francis' crew are suspicious of this stuff. This is not play. A Catholic priest in Northern Ireland cautioned against practicing yoga and receiving Indian head massages, saying that those who take such risks with their “spiritual health” are opening themselves up to “Satan and the Fallen Angels.” My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'. You already know and anticipate the flow of information if we were to have this conversation. So we leave it here? Maybe. Right. I agree. So why prefer to think on sub-optimal modes? I don't know why you'd prefer such modes. Like conscious or unconscious filtration of information. Maybe you should volunteer some answers.
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tycho		#70 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:31:38 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		Our ideas on what the mind is, whether it exists or not, and how we relate to it need to be reexamined. Most of what has been said is very likely to be erroneous.
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Muriel		#71 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 9:15:21 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142		tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: Mtu Biz wrote: Mtu Biz, Even Mr. Francis' crew are suspicious of this stuff. This is not play. A Catholic priest in Northern Ireland cautioned against practicing yoga and receiving Indian head massages, saying that those who take such risks with their “spiritual health” are opening themselves up to “Satan and the Fallen Angels.” My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'. You already know and anticipate the flow of information if we were to have this conversation. So we leave it here? Maybe. Right. I agree. So why prefer to think on sub-optimal modes? I don't know why you'd prefer such modes. Like conscious or unconscious filtration of information. Maybe you should volunteer some answers. Hey! I am the one who prefers such modes? Me?
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tycho		#72 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 9:26:57 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: Mtu Biz wrote: Mtu Biz, Even Mr. Francis' crew are suspicious of this stuff. This is not play. A Catholic priest in Northern Ireland cautioned against practicing yoga and receiving Indian head massages, saying that those who take such risks with their “spiritual health” are opening themselves up to “Satan and the Fallen Angels.” My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'. You already know and anticipate the flow of information if we were to have this conversation. So we leave it here? Maybe. Right. I agree. So why prefer to think on sub-optimal modes? I don't know why you'd prefer such modes. Like conscious or unconscious filtration of information. Maybe you should volunteer some answers. Hey! I am the one who prefers such modes? Me? Now that much has changed in my perception and thought I no longer wish to be involved in accusations and defenses. Let me remind you that I surrendered from 'push and shove' threads ago.
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Muriel		#73 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 9:33:56 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142		tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: Mtu Biz wrote: Mtu Biz, Even Mr. Francis' crew are suspicious of this stuff. This is not play. A Catholic priest in Northern Ireland cautioned against practicing yoga and receiving Indian head massages, saying that those who take such risks with their “spiritual health” are opening themselves up to “Satan and the Fallen Angels.” My assumption has been, as long as you're on earth you are open to 'Satan and his fallen angels'. You already know and anticipate the flow of information if we were to have this conversation. So we leave it here? Maybe. Right. I agree. So why prefer to think on sub-optimal modes? I don't know why you'd prefer such modes. Like conscious or unconscious filtration of information. Maybe you should volunteer some answers. Hey! I am the one who prefers such modes? Me? Now that much has changed in my perception and thought I no longer wish to be involved in accusations and defenses. Let me remind you that I surrendered from 'push and shove' threads ago. I am grateful for the changes in your perception and thought. For I had no answers to volunteer, anyway. So, what do we do now?
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tycho		#74 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 9:44:33 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined. So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship?
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Muriel		#75 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 9:52:52 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142		tycho wrote: I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined. So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship? I want to explore with you. 'We' definitely implies a relationship.
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tycho		#76 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 1:32:04 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined. So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship? I want to explore with you. 'We' definitely implies a relationship. Thank you. How would you define a relationship?
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Muriel		#77 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 2:13:08 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142		tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined. So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship? I want to explore with you. 'We' definitely implies a relationship. Thank you. How would you define a relationship? Connection.
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tycho		#78 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 2:30:52 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined. So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship? I want to explore with you. 'We' definitely implies a relationship. Thank you. How would you define a relationship? Connection. Am finding it so hard to define a relationship. Like now, if I use the definition you've offered I find myself in the same situation. For example what kind of connection? Am connected to all Kenyans, but do I have a relationship with them?
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Swenani		#79 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 2:55:41 PM
Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum		tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined. So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship? I want to explore with you. 'We' definitely implies a relationship. Thank you. How would you define a relationship? Connection. Am finding it so hard to define a relationship. Like now, if I use the definition you've offered I find myself in the same situation. For example what kind of connection? Am connected to all Kenyans, but do I have a relationship with them? Yes, If you live in Kenya then you are connected to other Kenyans geographically, if you are Kenyan then you are connected to other Kenyans through nationality. You are in a relationship with everything and everyone If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Muriel		#80 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 3:41:56 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142		Swenani wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: tycho wrote: I am keen on exploring, investigating, analyzing for the moment. I have already made a statement on ideas about the mind needing to be re-examined. So far, a question am pursuing is 'what's a relationship?' Like, does 'we' imply a relationship? I want to explore with you. 'We' definitely implies a relationship. Thank you. How would you define a relationship? Connection. Am finding it so hard to define a relationship. Like now, if I use the definition you've offered I find myself in the same situation. For example what kind of connection? Am connected to all Kenyans, but do I have a relationship with them? Yes, If you live in Kenya then you are connected to other Kenyans geographically, if you are Kenyan then you are connected to other Kenyans through nationality. You are in a relationship with everything and everyone I think that in the middle of the connection between connection and relationship there is a valve. Flow from one is not cut off from the other yet the reverse is hindered.
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