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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
obiero
#1631 Posted : Tuesday, April 07, 2015 7:58:14 PM
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mulla wrote:
hisah wrote:
Printed a new yr low @7.50 today. Landing gear failure Sad


even at this price investors are not interested....demand volumes were very low...

I blame @sparkly and his damned charts
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obiero
#1632 Posted : Tuesday, April 07, 2015 8:02:46 PM
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heri wrote:
How does refund of VAT impact the P&L . Unless they had provided for them or written them off?

Are you saying that the sum will have no effect on P&L? IFRS dictates that the sums have to be provided for since they are realisable pending payments.. Please read the 2013 FY results
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
Aguytrying
#1633 Posted : Tuesday, April 07, 2015 10:52:49 PM
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mulla wrote:
hisah wrote:
Printed a new yr low @7.50 today. Landing gear failure Sad


even at this price investors are not interested....demand volumes were very low...


call me a prophet of doom. I don't see kq recovering these multibillion shilling losses anytime soon. even return to profitability seems to be a dream.
I think this one is headed to keep mumias company at the gov corup comfort zone corner
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obiero
#1634 Posted : Tuesday, April 07, 2015 11:21:02 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mulla wrote:
hisah wrote:
Printed a new yr low @7.50 today. Landing gear failure Sad


even at this price investors are not interested....demand volumes were very low...


call me a prophet of doom. I don't see kq recovering these multibillion shilling losses anytime soon. even return to profitability seems to be a dream.
I think this one is headed to keep mumias company at the gov corup comfort zone corner

Riswaaaa :) Pepo mbaya
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
Cde Monomotapa
#1635 Posted : Tuesday, April 07, 2015 11:26:02 PM
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obiero wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mulla wrote:
hisah wrote:
Printed a new yr low @7.50 today. Landing gear failure Sad


even at this price investors are not interested....demand volumes were very low...


call me a prophet of doom. I don't see kq recovering these multibillion shilling losses anytime soon. even return to profitability seems to be a dream.
I think this one is headed to keep mumias company at the gov corup comfort zone corner

Riswaaaa :) Pepo mbaya


@Aguy atulize... Hapa kadogo economy will be promoting local tourism for TPS! Akue mpole smile http://www.capitalfm.co....irst-year-of-operation/

That BAMB has significant NSSF in it. So?
Thitifini
#1636 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2015 12:57:15 AM
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Mumias disciples.

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hisah
#1637 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2015 2:56:21 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
obiero wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mulla wrote:
hisah wrote:
Printed a new yr low @7.50 today. Landing gear failure Sad


even at this price investors are not interested....demand volumes were very low...


call me a prophet of doom. I don't see kq recovering these multibillion shilling losses anytime soon. even return to profitability seems to be a dream.
I think this one is headed to keep mumias company at the gov corup comfort zone corner

Riswaaaa :) Pepo mbaya


@Aguy atulize... Hapa kadogo economy will be promoting local tourism for TPS! Akue mpole smile http://www.capitalfm.co....irst-year-of-operation/

That BAMB has significant NSSF in it. So?

@cde - btwn kq and tps the latter offers better value considering kq's bad spell commenced long before tourism sector took a plunge. JJ alone can't fix kq's financial sink holes.

If tourism figures don't improve soon kq will be another bailout candidate. The tourist arrival numbers are terrible to say the least as well as the hotels shutting down at the coast.

http://mobile.nation.co..../-/1vii5oz/-/index.html

The big picture is now how KES will deflate with key forex earning sectors (tourism, agri) facing south. KE macro environment is getting sticky and a new CBK is yet to get in office. Will be tough this 2015 without stimulus... Worst case will be a disorderly $KES (>98) weakness which if it happens will tank NSE20.

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
sparkly
#1638 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2015 6:18:55 AM
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obiero wrote:
mulla wrote:
hisah wrote:
Printed a new yr low @7.50 today. Landing gear failure Sad


even at this price investors are not interested....demand volumes were very low...

I blame @sparkly and his damned charts


@Obiero the charts and I are innocent.
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Omena
#1639 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2015 7:06:44 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
obiero wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mulla wrote:
hisah wrote:
Printed a new yr low @7.50 today. Landing gear failure Sad


even at this price investors are not interested....demand volumes were very low...


call me a prophet of doom. I don't see kq recovering these multibillion shilling losses anytime soon. even return to profitability seems to be a dream.
I think this one is headed to keep mumias company at the gov corup comfort zone corner

Riswaaaa :) Pepo mbaya


@Aguy atulize... Hapa kadogo economy will be promoting local tourism for TPS! Akue mpole smile http://www.capitalfm.co....irst-year-of-operation/

That BAMB has significant NSSF in it. So?

If 30% of JJ passengers were new customers, then most of the remaining 70% of customers were existing KQ travellers who are now flying at a much cheaper price. The overall net effect looks bad
 It’s what you learn after you think you know it all that counts.
Cde Monomotapa
#1640 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2015 7:07:47 AM
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hisah wrote:
KQ trying hard to mount a breakout. Overhead resistance runs all the way to 14/- Heavy volume required to dismiss this resistance forest.

If only KQ would produce such statistics.

Air New Zealand passenger numbers up 2.7% - traffic highlights for Dec-2014:

Passenger numbers: 1.4 million, +2.7% year-on-year;
Short-haul: 1.3 million, +2.5%;
Domestic: 932,000, +3.2%;
Tasman/Pacific: 336,000, +0.7%;
Long-haul: 163,000, +4.5%;
Asia/Japan/UK: 60,000, +10.4%;
North America/UK: 103,000, +1.4%;

Passenger load factor: 85.1%, -1.2 ppts;
Short-haul: 83.8%, +0.1 ppt;
Domestic: 83.6%, +0.2 ppt;
Tasman/Pacific: 84%, +0.2 ppt;
Long-haul: 86.1%, -2.7 ppts;
Asia/Japan/UK: 84.9%, -4.8 ppts;
North America/UK: 86.8%, -1.5 ppts.

More - http://centreforaviation...ysis/206499/12-2014.pdf


@hisah, true, JJ is only part of the solution as far as meeting this stellar stats you posted here earlier. Commendable progress by JJ in a year to do 500K* domestic already.

There was a convo with @Realtreaty on the KK thread about the relationship between Alcoblow & a car. Whereby the car owner can be busted and the car gets a new driver and keep moving.. smile

Pursuant to that, KQ is hence a export service doing over 50 destinations to make that over USD1.2B revenue. This new flight schedule should bring that out better. It can be seen that KQ is still key in serving TPS's other EA markets as follows;

Kenya Airways to boost operations with new flight schedule
Quote:
As part of its transformation program, Kenya Airways announces several flight scheduling changes that will take effect from 1st of April 2015. This change is expected to boost connectivity for our passengers by 20%. Kenya Airways will now operate improved schedule that ensures efficient use of its aircraft and crew and flight connections for passengers. There will be an increase in flight frequencies some cities on its network especially in Africa and changed flight schedule.
http://www.ghanaweb.com/...s/artikel.php?ID=352940

Also, with the soon to close fleet renewal that has been distorting US-KE trade figures (Boeing-GE), we can engage in more consistent business granted US direct flight. I suppose have to await Kasin B.O later in the year for the US-Africa summit in KE?

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